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BurritoJustice posted:If you go on the VNV discord and search for EVE there is a version made for compatibility with LINV/VNV. You can also send me a PM and I can send you a link. It's not publicly hosted due to modder permissions I appreciate the offer and I would have taken you up on it, but I don't have a platinum account. Thanks for pointing me to the Discord, though. I'll poke around there.
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Fame Douglas posted:Imagine wanting to play some Fallout and you're getting the C-SPAM RPG, instead. Clearly you've never played Fallout 2.
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Jan 24, 2021 01:47
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It's been ages since I played F2, but didn't the Enclave want to commit omnicide? Kill everyone on the planet that wasn't them? Being on the nose about the Enclave being the evilest sons of bitches to ever live seems pretty fine and as much a nod to the player that the mod-makers are aware that these people are not sympathetic in the slightest. And it's ridiculous that's the thing people seem to be taking the most umbrage at and not, well, all the other, actually bad things the mod is doing.
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Jan 24, 2021 02:40
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Ironslave posted:It's been ages since I played F2, but didn't the Enclave want to commit omnicide? Kill everyone on the planet that wasn't them? The talking head of their President pretty much makes it very obvious these guys are pretty insane and or evil. But I guess WOW COOL POWER ARMOR goes with the Enclave as well as the Brotherhood.
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Jan 24, 2021 02:42
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If there's anything I need of a game, it's the knowledge that the creators are "aware" of omnicide being bad. They really need to make it obvious.SeanBeansShako posted:The talking head of their President pretty much makes it very obvious these guys are pretty insane and or evil. It's a game, you don't have to act according to your real-world politics.
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Jan 24, 2021 02:42
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Gonna throw it out there that according to Old World Blues, the Courier has no loving idea what communism is. It just kind of makes me think a random wastelander wouldn't really be eager to throw around fascist like that.
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Jan 24, 2021 02:48
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Orange Crush Rush posted:Gonna throw it out there that according to Old World Blues, the Courier has no loving idea what communism is. It just kind of makes me think a random wastelander wouldn't really be eager to throw around fascist like that. Yeah if I have a problem with the the line, it's this. The only people with enough knowledge of the old world to even half way accurately throw around terms like that are people like Arcade and Caesar. And they're gonna be more educated than 99.999~% of living people, so even with the couriers blankish background it's hard to believe they'd know the terms.
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Jan 24, 2021 03:20
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Also its not like all followers of the apocalypse go in for history lessons. Edward Sallow was a linguist that happened to help him read up on stuff and Arcade specifically mentions having a hobby reading about failed prewar socioeconomic policies.
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Jan 24, 2021 03:24
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Ironslave posted:It's been ages since I played F2, but didn't the Enclave want to commit omnicide? Kill everyone on the planet that wasn't them? the objection from non-nazis is that its a horribly written line of dialogue. if a neo nazi tried to recruit you would you tell him that he belongs to a 'racist paramilitary organization that is objectively evil' or would you tell him to gently caress off
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Jan 24, 2021 03:28
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Arcsquad12 posted:Also its not like all followers of the apocalypse go in for history lessons. Edward Sallow was a linguist that happened to help him read up on stuff and Arcade specifically mentions having a hobby reading about failed prewar socioeconomic policies. Not to mention Arcade miiiiiiight just have a bit more skin in that particular game then most people, even among the Followers.
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Farm Frenzy posted:the objection from non-nazis is that its a horribly written line of dialogue. if a neo nazi tried to recruit you would you tell him that he belongs to a 'racist paramilitary organization that is objectively evil' or would you tell him to gently caress off. people are so funny on this forum Nah. Insulting bluntness is something people do use. And considering the lovely attitudes often on display by modders, screaming to the audience "we know" isn't a bad idea--I know this one from experience, unfortunately. It's also one dialogue option of several so the entire reason for choosing it, if you do, is yours to decide, it's not like it leaves you for a lack of ways to respond to Tricky Dick there. There are much better things to be disdainful about in the mod, having played that segment and more.
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Jan 24, 2021 03:35
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im just saying its a really stupid turn of phrase dude. try saying that sentence out loud. like every other example of dialogue that ive seen from the mod, it sounds like a teen trying to sound smart on an internet forum
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Jan 24, 2021 03:40
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the flaws with Frontier are a lot more about its embarrassing timing (following Blackthorne at walking pace on a mile long hike, about half of it given to a huge expo dump and the other half in silence) or its giant assortment of bullet sponge enemies e.g. Wendigos or Nano Prototypes, or the frustratingly unstable scripted sequences (I very nearly gave up on it in a couple of the giant rear end set pieces) not so much one specific dialog line
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Flesh Forge posted:the flaws with Frontier are a lot more about its embarrassing timing (following Blackthorne at walking pace on a mile long hike, about half of it given to a huge expo dump and the other half in silence) or its giant assortment of bullet sponge enemies e.g. Wendigos or Nano Prototypes, or the frustratingly unstable scripted sequences (I very nearly gave up on it in a couple of the giant rear end set pieces) Seriously calling out one poorly written line in an entire loving ocean of poorly written lines is reeeeally weird
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Flesh Forge posted:the flaws with Frontier are a lot more about its embarrassing timing (following Blackthorne at walking pace on a mile long hike, about half of it given to a huge expo dump and the other half in silence) or its giant assortment of bullet sponge enemies e.g. Wendigos or Nano Prototypes, or the frustratingly unstable scripted sequences (I very nearly gave up on it in a couple of the giant rear end set pieces) Christ, those scripted walking sequences. It's like they figured out how to do them, were proud of themselves for it, and just decided to slap as many of them as they could without stopping to ask if they should. Edit: Also, Wendigos are actually pretty neat as an enemy concept and buck some of the trends. They die immediately if you cripple a limb, so you're encouraged to aim for limbs or keep items on hand that do bonus damage to those. They also just spawn 10 of them in a wide area, which can be tedious to clear out and I think they intended them to be a kind of shambling threat you could easily outpace, but if you ignored entirely could bite you in the butt--they're a good piece of design, though probably better-suited to a different game. Ironslave fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Jan 24, 2021 |
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Actually the worst part about it is probably how the 18 year old-ish companion you can enslave has a line talking about just how awfully smelly and sweaty her feet must be edit: PinheadSlim posted:Seriously calling out one poorly written line in an entire loving ocean of poorly written lines is reeeeally weird that line does kind of stick out particularly bad to me, I think it's because it's throwing the phase "objectively evil" into New Vegas of all loving games Orange Crush Rush fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Jan 24, 2021 |
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Jan 24, 2021 03:50
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 there are many amazing types of bad in the frontiers' writing please keep posting more funny screencaps everyone
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Flesh Forge posted:the flaws with Frontier are a lot more about its embarrassing timing (following Blackthorne at walking pace on a mile long hike, about half of it given to a huge expo dump and the other half in silence) or its giant assortment of bullet sponge enemies e.g. Wendigos or Nano Prototypes, or the frustratingly unstable scripted sequences (I very nearly gave up on it in a couple of the giant rear end set pieces) Wendigos actually aren't so bad since they die instantly on a crippled limb. Target their legs at close range with a shotgun and they go down quick. e: beaten
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NPC: "Wanna join the Enclave?" Courier "The Enclave? Aren't they the guys who got outsmarted by some tribal who stole their vertibird plans, infiltrated two of their bases, defeated the president's super-mutated juggernaut bodyguard, and blew up their oil rig headquarters?" NPC: "Uh...no that was the...Conclave! Yeah, that's it...uh...oh no! Look! A sex lizard! We've got a get outta here!" <NPC ends conversations, flees across map into ravine, causing the game to crash> - Actually, can someone explain the sex lizard thing to me? I didn't quite catch the gist of what that was all about.
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wait isn't "automatic death if you cripple a limb" just a rip off of Dead Money's Ghost People
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Orange Crush Rush posted:wait isn't "automatic death if you cripple a limb" just a rip off of Dead Money's Ghost People Sort of but not quite? Ghost People die but get back up unless a limb is crippled, Wendigos just have an absurd amount of health.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Wendigos actually aren't so bad since they die instantly on a crippled limb. Target their legs at close range with a shotgun and they go down quick. okay, except with 100 guns and a perfect covert sniper rifle and the good amo it takes 4+ shots to knock off a limb, god forbid you went with anything lighter. and then there's the armored up legionnaires guarding every dumpster that take 5+ headshots Acebuckeye13 posted:Sort of but not quite? Ghost People die but get back up unless a limb is crippled, Wendigos just have an absurd amount of health. yes
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Ironslave posted:Nah. Insulting bluntness is something people do use. And considering the lovely attitudes often on display by modders, screaming to the audience "we know" isn't a bad idea--I know this one from experience, unfortunately. It's also one dialogue option of several so the entire reason for choosing it, if you do, is yours to decide, it's not like it leaves you for a lack of ways to respond to Tricky Dick there. The first thing that came to mind for me, seeing that screenshot, was actually the player's dialog in Caesar's tent. If you would prefer the Legion to just gently caress off, you don't call Caesar an objectively evil imperialist fascist, you simply say "Death to tyrants! [Start combat.]" More concise, and assumes less about what the Courier knows and wants.
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That Frontier mod looks bad, but I like the idea of Fallout in the snow. I know there's a couple winter wasteland type things on the Nexus, are any of those decent?
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Lurdiak posted:Clearly you've never played Fallout 2.
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Crowetron posted:That Frontier mod looks bad, but I like the idea of Fallout in the snow. I know there's a couple winter wasteland type things on the Nexus, are any of those decent? it has some pretty good things in it and tbh you can run away from the main quest and just go fart around in the snow just fine.
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Flesh Forge posted:it has some pretty good things in it and tbh you can run away from the main quest and just go fart around in the snow just fine. You know its really depressing that one of the most anticipated mods for New Vegas is best approached as "play it like it's Fallout 3."
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Are the enclave really paramilitary, I thought they were just... a military, like the US military continuity organization using the US government's resource stockpiles.
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I know what the hypothetical goon modding project should be: Cybervegas 2077.
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OwlFancier posted:Are the enclave really paramilitary, I thought they were just... a military, like the US military continuity organization using the US government's resource stockpiles. The Enclave wasn't just members of government, it included scientists, industrialists, and all kinds of various wealthy and powerful people. It's a weird little cabal of people who consider themselves the elite of the elite, but it never really had complete control of the government or military. So I'd say the armed branch of this group would definitely be considered a paramilitary force even if it was comprised of a large percentage of professional soldiers. A kind-of sort-of real life comparison would be the Special Activities Center of the CIA. No doubt comprised of professional American soldiers, but a paramilitary organization.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Wendigos actually aren't so bad since they die instantly on a crippled limb. Target their legs at close range with a shotgun and they go down quick. Wouldn't the F3 dart gun be an instant-kill on them since the main thing it does is cripple the legs of anyone who gets hit with it?
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Orange Crush Rush posted:Gonna throw it out there that according to Old World Blues, the Courier has no loving idea what communism is. It just kind of makes me think a random wastelander wouldn't really be eager to throw around fascist like that. Tbf isn’t it implied that a high INT courier in NV knows Latin? Since during the quest where you interrogate that legion spy you can speak entire lines of Latin if you pass the INT check. Still doesn’t change how badly written that line is but there’s a bunch of lines in FNV that imply different and contradictory backgrounds for the courier since their backstory is mostly developed through dialogue options. I haven’t played the mod itself but the PC not being allowed to join the Enclave, which seems like another thing people hate the mod for, might work if the Enclave is the same motivations as their FO2 counterparts, where no matter the PC’s character or motivations, joining them would be literally suicidal and they wouldn’t want a subhuman wastelander to join anyways. Like Unity and the Legion were also pretty close to being as evil as possible but still made sense for a PC to join since there are no hard lines they refuse people for that the PC automatically fulfills (being a contaminated wastelander for Unity and being non human for Legion), but as flexible as the backstory for the Courier can be theres pretty much no scenario for them in which joining the enclave would result in anything other than the enclave telling them to gently caress off/immediately killing them. Lurdiak posted:Clearly you've never played Fallout 2. The fallout 2 Enclave Vice President was literally Dan Quayle and I think one of the bad endings for the NCR was Enclave survivors rehabilitating themselves in shady sands and turning into a neocon faction in their Senate, which the game explicitly called right wing. FrancisFukyomama fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Jan 24, 2021 |
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PinheadSlim posted:The Enclave wasn't just members of government, it included scientists, industrialists, and all kinds of various wealthy and powerful people. It's a weird little cabal of people who consider themselves the elite of the elite, but it never really had complete control of the government or military. I mean, the concept of nationstates is *barely* reemerging in Fallout's universe, so paramilitary is kind of a funnily specific thing to say. Way more than fascist, tbh.
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Fame Douglas posted:Imagine wanting to play some Fallout and you're getting the C-SPAM RPG, instead. NV is pretty much the most C-SPAM rpg there was until Disco Elysium came out, though
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Zane posted:fallout 2 has weird sex poo poo in it too for that matter. Fallout 2 has a ridiculous amount of weird horny garbage to the point that it's kind of embarrassing. The game is still very good in spite of that, but sheesh. FrancisFukyomama posted:The fallout 2 Enclave Vice President was literally Dan Quayle and I think one of the bad endings for the NCR was Enclave survivors rehabilitating themselves in shady sands and turning into a neocon faction in their Senate, which the game explicitly called right wing. Yeah. It was the most on the nose political commentary I've ever seen in a video game. The supernazi bad guys were a completely blatant parallel to modern US republicans and their horrible ideology that led to the great war and was on the verge of leading to omnicide was directly compared to that of those republicans. You can't get more C-spam than that. Zore posted:New Vegas has weird sex poo poo in it for that matter Some of that stuff is silly and could be done away with but it is very very mild compared to Fallout 2. It's also a lot funnier. E: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igb9v94S_lY 
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I thinkin' about trying out this New Frontier mod. This means pretty much starting fresh for me, reinstalling New Vegas for about the 30th time. I've only installed the necessities like that one mod that adds bullet time and sprint function, but never a mod where it's a whole new location. Any tips?
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Looking for a mod that limits Fast Travel so I'm not zipping around the map all the time, I know Puce Moose has this cool one https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/46226 but I was wondering if there were any others where say you repaired a motorcycle and that allowed you to fast travel, but required regular maintenance or something.
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Fargin Icehole posted:I thinkin' about trying out this New Frontier mod. This means pretty much starting fresh for me, reinstalling New Vegas for about the 30th time. I've only installed the necessities like that one mod that adds bullet time and sprint function, but never a mod where it's a whole new location. Any tips? I set it up by using the Viva New Vegas installation guide first, then installing the Frontier and some other mods on top of that. You'll want to make sure to cross-reference the compatibility spreadsheet, and check the announcements section of the Discord server for the latest hotfix and information. As you may have guessed looking through the thread, opinions are definitely mixed. The NCR questline (so far) is very much Call of Duty flavored but broadly inoffensive, Crusaders is (allegedly, I haven't done any of their stuff or looked it up myself) mormon anime waifu simulator, and there's a ton of edgy "the raiders are extra bad so we'll make sure you know they love to enslave people and rape them" content in the sidequests. If you're looking for an interesting, winter-themed environment to run around, shoot raiders and mutant animals, and try out some shockingly-good vehicle mechanics, it's a solid mod. If you're looking for a New Vegas-esque experience with well-written choices and consequences, you're gonna be disappointed.
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