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Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.

Nice Van My Man posted:

That's a pretty cool move considering the Taiwanese seemed pretty nervous about Trump leaving office. I know some of them were really pro Trump due to his anti-China stances, and Biden's history with China.

Yeah, Trump and Pompeo and the rest of his administration being a giant pile of poo poo doesn't mean their broken clock moments about Taiwan deserving recognition as, well, an actual independent country, rather than the ridiculous dance the world does around them to appease the CCP, weren't accidentally correct. Honestly, as with so many of their other bullying anti-sovereignty/territory creep campaigns, the world just needs to be unified and act as one in the other direction of recognizing Taiwan's independence and letting the Mainlanders throw their tantrum until they tire themselves out, then move on from there.

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eggyolk
Nov 8, 2007


Sounds like Ma's re-education went really well!

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Nice Van My Man posted:

That's a pretty cool move considering the Taiwanese seemed pretty nervous about Trump leaving office. I know some of them were really pro Trump due to his anti-China stances, and Biden's history with China.

I would have been far, far more worried orange shanking it due to his usual brain worms. I would count yourselves lucky you didn't catch his attention between golfing. I seriously question :wtf: with pro orange when he can't stop lying. Then there is the inability to separate out him from the administration, laws and congress. Like, no poo poo you got more weapons because you asked for more and the US is obligated to provide as well as it is in their interest to do so. If they were serious they won't have left all this till the last minute and still stopped short.

That trade deal they were so proud of? Yeah, not doing so well. Bit of a joke.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55760992

quote:

China is falling short of its commitment to buy an extra $200bn (£146bn) worth of US goods over 2020 and 2021.

China agreed to buy the goods in a trade deal with the US agreed last January in exchange for reduced tariffs on $120bn worth of goods.
At the time, then-president Donald Trump hailed the deal as "transformative", and said it would protect American workers.

Under the agreement, the $200bn worth of additional purchases are based on 2017 levels, and only apply to specific categories of goods.

The agreement included agricultural products, manufactured products and energy products.

Analysis by the Peterson Institute estimates that China would need to purchase $173bn worth of goods to meet the requirement.

The latest figures from Chinese customs show that China imported just under $135bn from the US in 2020.

However, about $35bn worth of goods didn't count under the agreement, meaning China bought about $100bn worth of covered goods.

The figure amounts to 58% of what China committed to under the agreement, according to the Peterson Institute.

China imported 64% of its targets for agricultural products, 60% of its targets for manufactured products and 39% for energy products.

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

oohhboy posted:

I would have been far, far more worried orange shanking it due to his usual brain worms. I would count yourselves lucky you didn't catch his attention between golfing. I seriously question :wtf: with pro orange when he can't stop lying. Then there is the inability to separate out him from the administration, laws and congress. Like, no poo poo you got more weapons because you asked for more and the US is obligated to provide as well as it is in their interest to do so. If they were serious they won't have left all this till the last minute and still stopped short.

That trade deal they were so proud of? Yeah, not doing so well. Bit of a joke.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55760992
They didn't honor their trade agreement?!? :wth:

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

But it was the bigly best deal ever!

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
I remain convinced that the outgoing state department moves were Pompeo just doing whatever the gently caress he wants without consulting Trump.

The gently caress is Trump gonna do while being teed up to be the first executive to ever be convicted on impeachment and probably prosecuted by his successor on multiple charges from tax evasion to sedition in a grim modern-day echo of the Cadaver Synod? There's no reason to give a poo poo what that orangutan thinks and he backed down from his 'TOUGH ON CHYNA' campaign promise so many times that there's no guarantee he'd agree with you, and even less possibility he'd understand what the gently caress you were talking about. So just do what you want, there will be no consequences. The fact that it was the correct thing to do is a relieving bonus.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dumpster only has so much attention to go around. He was pretty bored with international politics, there are only so many countries you can piss off. So he went domestic. Concentrated on George Floyd :rip:, his ego/money rallies, COVID then election. If someone did a study I wouldn't doubt there is a strong correlation between Cabinet activity, increased competency and orange's attention. If he spots you he is going to try to take credit and inject his brain worms into it repeatedly. I have to wonder how many things Cabinet had to talk him out of or work around him. There are plenty of stories like it.

Pompeo was absolutely doing his own thing. He was almost daily coming out with something new, yet orange never showed, not a squeak. That report and change in classification on Uyghur genocide was way too coincidental to be something they just managed to make a determination after two years when everyone else including Biden was already blasting them 6 months ago.

The invitation to the inauguration was definitely a signal that Biden admin has got Taiwan's back without directly talking. It takes a dig at the suddenly cancelled foreign trips to Taiwan. Biden has a poo poo ton on his plate, so I wouldn't be surprised if international politics takes a back seat for the next month. Pompeo's moves aren't objectionable, and I don't think Biden minds it. If anything it gives him an advantage as he doesn't need to spend energy to cross that line which he was no doubt was already going to do.

e: Looks like I caught the attention of another tankie.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


oohhboy posted:

e: Looks like I caught the attention of another tankie.

lol, these people are amazing, amazingly petty fans of lovely tyrants, that is

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

They're just plain old radicalised extremists.

They lose a lot of the intimidation factor when you strip away the otherness of religion or hypernationalism and instead use the familiar language of domestic politics.

Dont Touch ME
Apr 1, 2018

Fojar38 posted:

Where can I read about this malware? Any sentence containing "china" and "outbreak" is kind of hard to google nowadays

https://s.tencent.com/research/report/1225.html

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

oohhboy posted:

e: Looks like I caught the attention of another tankie.
lmfao that is the weakest own i've seen in this millennium

Marcade
Jun 11, 2006


Who are you to glizzy gobble El Vago's marshmussy?

They could have at least used a readable color, jeez.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Weird, you'd think a Tankie would be all about limp-wristedly protesting as a method to get your way.

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins

Marcade posted:

They could have at least used a readable color, jeez.

I think they chose orange because that's how oohhboy refers to trump for some odd reason..

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
That would point to a salty seditious orange rather than a tankie.

Thinking about it, are they mutually exclusive? Can you be an orange tankie?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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There is a non-insignificant number of CSPAM tankies who were/are effectively pro-Trump because they thought it would make America collapse and usher in a glorious communist future

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Were they the same ones bitching and moaning about how the non-essential services that impacted them seemed to be faltering?

Because I've seen that Venn diagram, there's like 98% overlap.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Fojar38 posted:

There is a non-insignificant number of CSPAM tankies who were/are effectively pro-Trump because they thought it would make America collapse and usher in a glorious communist future

Yeah it’s called "NOJOE"

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

hakimashou posted:

Yeah it’s called "NOJOE"

No it wasn’t.

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀


hakimashou posted:

Yeah it’s called "NOJOE"

yeah, nah. i'm an anarcho-nojoe, not some tankie-accelerationist-nojoe

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015
I have had Chinese nationals tell me they support Trump, because he was loud enough to light a fire under the CCP to prompt them to localize all chip development and generate nationalism, but incompetent enough as to not be a real threat to the country.

I exchange twitter DMs with this one guy who's the son of a factory owner. The only job he's ever had was working in a Huawei retail store. He lost the job but blamed it on American tariffs preventing Huawei phones from entering the market and therefore causing layoffs. I've had to explain to him that there's nothing actually stopping Huawei phones from being sold here, but he's incredibly dedicated to the brand. Other than that he sends me pics of his weekly vacations while I send back pics of things I see in New Jersey

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Fojar38 posted:

There is a non-insignificant number of CSPAM tankies who were/are effectively pro-Trump because they thought it would make America collapse and usher in a glorious communist future

well antifa protested the dems and now their twitters are being cancled. So well have full communism soon as people rise up and take the means of tweeting.

also for a hot political take after years of reading these threads i would say the biggest thing standing in china s way is face culture i dont know how you fix it but if you could i think the nation could do great things

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I can't say he wasn't wrong, but not right either. He was still thinking within the Xi = Dumpster power equivalence which he was trying to portray and achieve. I don't blame him for buying it. It was enticing enough for an attempted coup. Daughter fucker is extremely incompetent so that is that lend some evidence to his belief. But he did forget the rest of the US government might not be an omni shambles nor subservient. :lol: wall, even after he stole the money he only managed 12 miles. Conversely, Holy poo poo operation "Warp Speed" was literally nothing. Let it rip Fauci, throw all the shade you want.

:lol: Can't sell phones you don't have.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

je1 healthcare posted:

Other than that he sends me pics of his weekly vacations while I send back pics of things I see in New Jersey

When you say "weekly vacations" are you talking about the weekend

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Considering that the lad sounds like idle rich, I'm assuming that's a literal thing.

Dont Touch ME
Apr 1, 2018

God being upper middle class in the PRC would be dope.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
But you have to live in China.

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
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sincx fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Mar 23, 2021

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


oohhboy posted:

But you have to live in China.

After years of reading this thread, I get the feeling that just like the old Eastern Block countries, China is pretty dope if you have enough money to make all your problems go away and are the type not to bother about things like equality or the rule of law. Why would those things matter when I am having fun?

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

sincx posted:

I don't know if one of you thinks I've been buying red titles for people in this thread, and have been retaliating against me, but it's not me.

There are much better things to do with my time and money, and I think the avatar harassment revenue model is regrettable and have never used it or supported it.

Nah man, we spite people by donating to great causes and freedom of the press. Wrong thread.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

sincx posted:

I don't know if one of you thinks I've been buying red titles for people in this thread, and have been retaliating against me, but it's not me.

There are much better things to do with my time and money, and I think the avatar harassment revenue model is regrettable and have never used it or supported it.

you, a person who hasn't posted in this thread in a year: WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO MEEEE

us: who?

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

I only buy avs for people who won't stop posting lizard tits.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
I only buy avs for people who keep posting lizard tits

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

sincx posted:

I don't know if one of you thinks I've been buying red titles for people in this thread, and have been retaliating against me, but it's not me.

There are much better things to do with my time and money, and I think the avatar harassment revenue model is regrettable and have never used it or supported it.

who the hell are you

Tupperwarez
Apr 4, 2004

"phphphphphphpht"? this is what you're going with?

you sure?

barbecue at the folks posted:

After years of reading this thread, I get the feeling that just like the old Eastern Block countries, China is pretty dope if you have enough money to make all your problems go away and are the type not to bother about things like equality or the rule of law. Why would those things matter when I am having fun?
Bullseye. China is great if you have an insulating layer of wealth to protect you from getting China-ed, and if you can mute or muffle your conscience.

Some people are aware of this context, and keep it in mind when telling people about their China experiences. Others... not so much.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
wealth and guanxi in correct faction

lots of poo poo isnt done by guanxi anymore but not getting gulaged is deffo still 100% guanxi

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.

Nigmaetcetera posted:

I think they chose orange because that's how oohhboy refers to trump for some odd reason..

Just a completely bizarre, inexplicable nickname

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

GoutPatrol posted:

you, a person who hasn't posted in this thread in a year: WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO MEEEE

us: who?

:laffo:

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
There is always Dumpster, Baby Hands, Traitor, Daughter Fucker, Bunker Bitch, Xi cock holster.

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LordArgh
Mar 17, 2009

Nap Ghost

oohhboy posted:

There is always Dumpster, Baby Hands, Traitor, Daughter Fucker, Bunker Bitch, Xi cock holster.

just use his actual name you weirdo

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