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Twibbit
Mar 7, 2013

Is your refrigerator running?
I remember being an avid reader of prequel till I fell off of it when I realized that I actually hated the gimmick of nothing is ever going to get better for her.

I was mostly there for the Oblivion jokes.

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girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Twibbit posted:

I remember being an avid reader of prequel till I fell off of it when I realized that I actually hated the gimmick of nothing is ever going to get better for her.

I was mostly there for the Oblivion jokes.
Oh, no, things sometimes get better- so she has farther to fall next time.

jng2058
Jul 17, 2010

We have the tools, we have the talent!





The Lone Badger posted:

Surely that should be past tense. It can't be still going.

Oh no, it still pops up once every few months or so. Most recent one was December 17 of 2020. https://www.prequeladventure.com/

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

jng2058 posted:

Oh no, it still pops up once every few months or so. Most recent one was December 17 of 2020. https://www.prequeladventure.com/
God. Nine years later, and she's just starting to learn her first real spell. Why did I even bother clicking through?

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

👁️🔥👁️👁️👁️BE NOT👄AFRAID👁️👁️👁️🔥👁️

I liked Prequel when I thought things were actually going to get better for her.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

lol kazerad

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Xarbala posted:

lol kazerad
I'm surprised he hasn't shown up like Beetlejuice to dig himself deeper yet.

Kazerad
Aug 1, 2011

Unshamed by Koos

PMush Perfect posted:

I'm surprised he hasn't shown up like Beetlejuice to dig himself deeper yet.

:( I'm always here, you guys have the best comic recommendations. But when someone brings up the slow update speed in my stuff or sense that nothing is getting better, I think the best I can say is that it's not for everyone. I like things that take their time and move in excruciating detail, and seeing if I can make little things like not drinking for one day as big of a deal to the reader as they are to the characters.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Kazerad, on one hand, I kinda feel guilty making GBS threads on something that someone clearly works so hard on.

On the other hand, my dude, you have some profound issues with women.

Kazerad
Aug 1, 2011

Unshamed by Koos

PMush Perfect posted:

Kazerad, on one hand, I kinda feel guilty making GBS threads on something that someone clearly works so hard on.

On the other hand, my dude, you have some profound issues with women.

Obviously I don't think I do, but I'm pretty sure everyone feels that way about themselves. The best I can say is that I try to run everything I do past a lot of proofreaders, particularly if I'm touching a sensitive topic that I don't have first-hand experience with. The reason I try to Beetlejuice my way into conversations like this one is to make sure I'm at least aware of and engaging with criticisms that don't come up with the proofreaders. I've never made it any secret that Prequel is me trying to get better at comics and writing, and I think this is a part of that.

Katia doesn't have a particularly easy time in the story, but the majority of the cast is female, and I don't feel like she's being particularly singled out for it? When it comes to criticisms that the story is needlessly cruel, I admit it's hard for me to respond to because I know that a lot of my readerbase strongly relates to Katia and the emotions she feels. If I portray these struggles as some minor thing she works through early in the story while on the way to becoming a Proper Protagonist, I think it would be kind of needlessly demeaning to the people who see themselves in her position. Something they frequently say to me is that they have trouble finding other fictional characters who capture those feelings they feel, and I don't really want to lose that.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

no gently caress off go away

fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once
everyone please get vaccinated so chilis can re-open

Flesnolk
Apr 11, 2012
Toxx to finish your comic kazerad

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009

Alone, she fights.
e: wait I had people confused

Elysiume fucked around with this message at 10:30 on Jan 24, 2021

perepelki
Dec 11, 2020

know before Whom you stand
cats

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
I have no idea why people are being rude to someone who politely came in to explain his comics-making process.

fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once
because he is a gamergate loving mysogynist who pays ppl who program his comic in gift cards to chilis

Wittgen
Oct 13, 2012

We have decided to decline your offer of a butt kicking.

Rand Brittain posted:

I have no idea why people are being rude to someone who politely came in to explain his comics-making process.

Kazerad is or at least was a supporter of Gamergate. They write a comic where the female main character suffers a lot, including sexual assault. It's hard to be charitable to someone who writes something like that when they also have written in defense of a harassment campaign against women.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.
The Chili's giftcard thing was a one-off joke suggestion a friend gave him for contributing some thing to some contest project Kazerad was working on iirc. His friend actually contributed something to that for free. However, he did put in some hardcore man hours throwing up the "actually it's about ethics in gaming journalism" smokescreen because /co/ likes his comic. And does weird poo poo like setting up google alerts to ping him whenever he's mentioned anywhere because he can't not look at people talking about him and I wish he'd gently caress off.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Nuns with Guns posted:

The Chili's giftcard thing was a one-off joke suggestion a friend gave him for contributing some thing to some contest project Kazerad was working on iirc. His friend actually contributed something to that for free. However, he did put in some hardcore man hours throwing up the "actually it's about ethics in gaming journalism" smokescreen because /co/ likes his comic. And does weird poo poo like setting up google alerts to ping him whenever he's mentioned anywhere because he can't not look at people talking about him and I wish he'd gently caress off.

Heh, explains why its so easy to page him.

But yeah as it is, prequel is exactly what it's going for, however kind of gross that goal (catperson misery porn) might be.

Still, the national political throughline from gamergate, to pizzagate, to Qanon, to storming the Capitol definitely makes any past pro-gamergate remarks embarrassing as hell at a barest minimum.

Kazerad
Aug 1, 2011

Unshamed by Koos

Xarbala posted:

Still, the national political throughline from gamergate, to pizzagate, to Qanon, to storming the Capitol definitely makes any past pro-gamergate remarks embarrassing as hell at a barest minimum.
I mean, a lot of what I wrote basically revolved around the thesis that people were not responding to the group correctly, and it was causing the situation to escalate. I feel like the Gamergate->Capitol progression over the next six years doesn't really imply I was wrong?

I started writing about the topic because I was doing a blogpost about 4chan at the time, which meant I was going there a lot to figure out how it worked. The timing was such that I saw the initial GamerGate stuff when it was first going down, and a lot of the retroactive reporting on those events did not strike me as accurate. The reason I keep the old posts chrono-order-linked on the side of my Tumblr is so people can see the exact progression of my views on the topic, since I think it is important to have a window into that, even if some of the things have retroactive corrections noted on them, or links to really good counterpoints that might otherwise get lost in the notes. I would argue that a lot of my predictions came true, but in ways I didn't expect (e.g. I wrote about how these conditions tend to create create niche markets that are apathetic to outside opinion, but didn't really foresee the creation of weird isolated-information-markets like QAnon people).

Some of the stuff I said back then I think holds up pretty well, like the post about exercising control over anonymous groups. Other stuff, like the gift card thing, I like to think is a result of me being 6-years-worse at articulating my points. Thankfully, I write fanfiction about an ex-cultist who always says things the wrong way, so struggling to overcome a degree of dumbassery kind of tracks.

Joe Slowboat
Nov 9, 2016

Higgledy-Piggledy Whale Statements



This would be a great time to take the L and not keep digging, to mix metaphors

fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once
instead of reading even a single pixel of that braindead poo poo, why not read my webcomic. thanks for considering

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

fun hater posted:

instead of reading even a single pixel of that braindead poo poo, why not read my webcomic. thanks for considering

mm, far better

Malpais Legate
Oct 1, 2014

fun hater posted:

instead of reading even a single pixel of that braindead poo poo, why not read my webcomic. thanks for considering

Have I mentioned how much I love your webcomic? The between-chapter you did where they scream about "you can blow Alice up any time you want!" was masterful comedy.

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.
https://hyperdrivencomic.com/

http://tarottournament.com/

Youse guys should read these comics! My friends do them.

I think gamergate would have ended a lot better if a larger adult, middle aged but physically large to an adult in the way an adult is to a child, stormed into Polygon, began destroying games, consoles and computers, Threw a ceramic statue of Mario through the window, and made everyone write an article of real, non-gaming news while he glowers at them.

Last Visible Dog
Jul 30, 2015

FunkyAl posted:

https://hyperdrivencomic.com/

http://tarottournament.com/

Youse guys should read these comics! My friends do them.

Ooh, cheers! I'm quite enjoying them so far!
Tell your friends they do good comics!

Safari Disco Lion
Jul 21, 2011

Boss, if they make us find seven lost crystals, I'm quitting.

Jesus, some wierdo fujoshi creep talked to me like that I'd throw up on them. Watch JJ do the thing for the 150th time where he makes a character do something really lovely but then pulls it back the next strip after he gets called on it.

flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes

FunkyAl posted:

https://hyperdrivencomic.com/

http://tarottournament.com/

Youse guys should read these comics! My friends do them.

I think gamergate would have ended a lot better if a larger adult, middle aged but physically large to an adult in the way an adult is to a child, stormed into Polygon, began destroying games, consoles and computers, Threw a ceramic statue of Mario through the window, and made everyone write an article of real, non-gaming news while he glowers at them.

i think you have a pretty poor understanding of what gamergate was if you think the problem that needed to be solved was polygon writing different articles, especially if your solution is (even jokingly) "someone should've gone to their offices and physically threatened people"

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.

flatluigi posted:

i think you have a pretty poor understanding of what gamergate was if you think the problem that needed to be solved was polygon writing different articles, especially if your solution is (even jokingly) "someone should've gone to their offices and physically threatened people"

I think the problem is that "gamer culture" and "games journalism" are just lifestyle ads for specific types of consumption that end up creating the kind of guy who is in a gamer gate at all, and they are filling in places where we need Real Culture and Real Journalism. The targeted entitlement directed at people like Zoe Quinn is the result of a culture machine that is constantly provoking that entitlement.

You are right though, I have a poor understanding of what gamergate is. Then I looked at the wikipedia and found this:

Which, I think, says it all.

fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once
can someone post literally anything to prevent this conversation from continuing

flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes
I mean, congratulations on finding your way to the wikipedia page, but when people are talking about gamergate these days they're referring to the targeted harassment of large chunks of both the videogame industry and the people who covered it (particularly, anyone who wasn't a straight white dude who was seen as not being a True Gamer).

the 'lack of coherent position' is referring to when the harassers were asked about why they were doing things like sending bomb threats to the target of the moment & couldn't come up with anything concrete as a smokescreen. even the inciting incident that named the movement was a fake -- the guy who started it admitted he just wanted to ruin his ex's life, nothing in it was true, and the core accusation of 'they slept with people to get positive reviews' fell apart when you actually went and looked and saw their game never got any reviews or even coverage on those websites

so, no, gamergate wouldn't have been solved by further attacking journalists! doing that was the problem in the first place!

(i know this is a sidetrack for the webcomics thread, but given that people were just talking about 'openly supporting gamergate' as a thing you could've done by accident that did no material harm I felt like it was important to clarify how wrong that is)

edit: sorry bea

Bishop Beo
Jul 3, 2009
Alpha Flag has released a dozen new pages for the first time in a couple years!

http://alpha-flag.com

I basically always forget about this webcomic until it updates again out of the blue.

fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once

Malpais Legate posted:

Have I mentioned how much I love your webcomic? The between-chapter you did where they scream about "you can blow Alice up any time you want!" was masterful comedy.

Alaois posted:

mm, far better


i forgot to mention this but :thanks:

flatluigi posted:



edit: sorry bea

unforgivable. perish!

fun hater fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Jan 27, 2021

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.
Here is the point I was trying to make:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EglOsfErtaE

fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once

Rexxed posted:

I also have not read the Snow Queen but did read Demon's Mirror. It had some weird pacing issues where new characters would show up and suddenly be on board with the current events, but it was alright. The author's next comic, A Better Place, ended a few months back.

https://tapas.io/episode/87972

i read this bc of this thread and i really liked it. its a breezy read and took me about 2 days. about 250+ pages. not at all where i expected it to go from the start and i was struck by the message of the comic's ending feeling like kind of an open plea to humanity.

i enjoyed it. its nice to see works people have poured a ton into! you can tell a lot of this world exists in the creators mind but we, the audience get to see enough of it to make sense of it.

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas

fun hater posted:

can someone post literally anything to prevent this conversation from continuing

Yeah, please, everybody please stop talking about Gamergate in a non-videogame thread in a non-videogame subforum. It's a topic that is really out of place here and is bound to do nothing but stir up tempers and relitigate old wounds so drop it.

The_Other
Dec 28, 2012

Welcome Back, Galaxy Geek.

fun hater posted:

can someone post literally anything to prevent this conversation from continuing

Okay, here is a promotional image from John Allison's upcoming Sausage Force Staring Desmond Fishman, Paul Hollywood, and Amanda the Octopus!

riderchop
Aug 10, 2010

av by @daikonquest!
hmmmmmm, i hate Desmond but i do enjoy themed hero suits

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fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once
you love desmond. you want to kiss him.

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