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I remember reading a recap of the Jay Leno match in high school. The writer said Jay did a Blue Thunder Bomb. I've never seen the match or read about it since but I think about that sentence often.
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Reminds me of the LT/Bam Bam match, where LT did a gut wrench suplex on Bam Bam, and the announcers screamed "Jackknife! He did a Jackknife Powerbomb!" And we were like, "No, no he didn't."
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ChrisBTY posted:The first year of heel Scott Steiner also taught me that Scott really needed the sunglasses to complete the persona because without them he has a bit of a babyface. It just doesn't look right. He has sad puppy eyes. 
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Oof, yeah that Bulldog promo is sad and scary. It's like his brain can't keep up with his mouth and shuts down after a few sentences each time.
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Davros1 posted:Reminds me of the LT/Bam Bam match, where LT did a gut wrench suplex on Bam Bam, and the announcers screamed "Jackknife! He did a Jackknife Powerbomb!" They really should've considered whether LT could realistically get Bam Bam up for a jackknife before they did the whole "He was trained by Diesel!!" bit. LT is a big dude and looked good in the match, but like most non-wrestlers he got very knackered very quickly and surely anyone could've seen that coming. Speaking of Kevin Nash and powerbombs, and seeing as how this is the WCW thread, I'm now thinking about when they made a big deal of signing Mike Awesome and making him into a big guy who powerbombs people. Then when he and Nash (one of the few guys on the roster taller than Awesome) squared off at Slamboree, all you can hear is Scott Hudson squawking "Kevin Nash has the best powerbomb in the business! Awesome, at best, is sloppy seconds!!". Hedgehog Pie fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Jan 23, 2021 |
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Should’ve tagged with Alex Wright.
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Hedgehog Pie posted:the whole "He was trained by Diesel!!" bit Well there's your problem 
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Angry_Ed posted:Well there's your problem Kevin Nash training anyone being funny in itself aside, it was especially bad as Diesel had already botched a powerbomb earlier on in the night, even if that was because HBK was sandbagging him.
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Mike Awesome trying to save the Insane Clown Posse from sliding off the roof of his That 70's Guy Fat Chick Thrilla bus will never not be funny. https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PiercingThunderousCygnet-mobile.mp4
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Sandman McMahon posted:Hey so in March it will have been 20 years since the final Nitro. I miss it more every day.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Should’ve tagged with Alex Wright. Speaking of Alex Wright I'm quite sad this Alex Wright, Disco Inferno, and Tokyo Magnum storyline didn't go on longer in 98.
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Animal-Mother posted:Mike Awesome trying to save the Insane Clown Posse from sliding off the roof of his That 70's Guy Fat Chick Thrilla bus will never not be funny. I could watch this all day.
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THE BUS HAS BEEN WASHED
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I do not miss Nitro at all. In all reality we're approaching the 22rd anniversary of the end of Nitro because everything after the episode with no matches for the first hour where DDP, Ric Flair, Hogan and Nash all did face/heel turns at once at the beginning of 1999 was the breaking point where everything started going completely off the rails and Nitro became unwatchable. And for my sensibilities Dynamite chaos dunks everything Nitro did even in 97-98. (Except obviously the pro wrestling landscape was so much hotter at the time that everything on Nitro felt special; even though it was ruled by old guys who never did poo poo between the ropes). ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Jan 24, 2021 |
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Things I like about Nitro: - Ric Flair's insane promos. - Chris Jericho's comedy bits, management didn't give a poo poo so it's all him and it shows. - Chris Kanyon and the gimmick where he'd just go around Kanyon Cutter-ing everyone. - Good cruiserweight matches. - Goldberg murdering people. - Alex Wright. - DDP and his shameless Nirvana ripoff theme. - Heenan was increasingly inebriated during broadcasts but still occasionally came out with some good lines. - Countless technical gently caress ups, as well as the warped enjoyment you get out of watching 1999-2000 shows just to see how bad it was.
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ChrisBTY posted:I do not miss Nitro at all. In all reality we're approaching the 22rd anniversary of the end of Nitro because everything after the episode with no matches for the first hour where DDP, Ric Flair, Hogan and Nash all did face/heel turns at once at the beginning of 1999 was the breaking point where everything started going completely off the rails and Nitro became unwatchable. For as much crap as there was, there was a lot of good. Lance Storm got a hell of a run as a featured villain. Elix Skipper got to wrestle a lot. Jericho's prime was the best poo poo on TV between both companies. Kanyon did a lot of great stuff. Rey Mysterio, human dart. I will never understand any of the weird gimmick poo poo they did with a lot of people, especially Mike Awesome.
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The 4 Horsemen theme slaps so hard I love it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq_GDQj53IQ
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ChrisBTY posted:I do not miss Nitro at all. In all reality we're approaching the 22rd anniversary of the end of Nitro because everything after the episode with no matches for the first hour where DDP, Ric Flair, Hogan and Nash all did face/heel turns at once at the beginning of 1999 was the breaking point where everything started going completely off the rails and Nitro became unwatchable.
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Red posted:For as much crap as there was, there was a lot of good. Lance Storm got a hell of a run as a featured villain. Elix Skipper got to wrestle a lot. Jericho's prime was the best poo poo on TV between both companies. Kanyon did a lot of great stuff. Rey Mysterio, human dart. Even with Lance you have a month and a half of good matches and then the Awesome match getting ruined by booking and a never ending feud with the god awful Misfits in Action.
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Nick Jr. Face posted:Was this the same Nitro where the Fingerpoke of Doom happened? Ah yes, the one where it took over an hour for Goldberg to walk across the street.
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MassRafTer posted:Even with Lance you have a month and a half of good matches and then the Awesome match getting ruined by booking and a never ending feud with the god awful Misfits in Action. Was that the one with "Canadian Rules" or whatever it was? Which reminds me, what was the kayfabe reason for Major Gunns and Mike Awesome joining up with the Canadians? At least the Jim Duggan one made sense - "the American medical system is a predatory shambles, whereas socialised healthcare in Canada saved my life," which is fair enough. edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Jan 24, 2021 |
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Vagabundo posted:Was that the one with "Canadian Rules" or whatever it was? Major Gunns was forced to join when MIA lost a match. I don't remember why Mike Awesome joined.
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Nick Jr. Face posted:Was this the same Nitro where the Fingerpoke of Doom happened? This was about a month and a half after the fingerpoke of doom, where they reversed course on everything they set up with the fingerpoke of doom.
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I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure he wasn't forced to join and that Storm recruited Awesome after Duggan became a US guy again and turned on Storm to allow the Filthy Animals to beat Team Canada. Also, I may be wrong again but I think Storm used Awesome being made into a joke as That 70's Guy when he should have been seen as this absolute beast which he could be once more with Storm as the reason for him joining.
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MassRafTer posted:Major Gunns was forced to join when MIA lost a match. I don't remember why Mike Awesome joined. There was never a real reason given, he just cut a promo announcing he was dropping the 70s Guy/Fat Chick Thrilla gimmick (still in character as that 70s guy as he did it  ) and mentioned he “felt a little Career Killer coming on” on the last Nitro before the holiday break, then on the January 3rd Thunder he opened the show having repainted the 70s bus white with a maple leaf on the side and was now referred to as “The Canadian Career Killer”. I guess the idea was Team Canada secured him over the holiday break.
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Vagabundo posted:Was that the one with "Canadian Rules" or whatever it was? yeah it was the Canadian Rules match that was secretly a Texas Death match but they would only reveal each actual role after Awesome would supposedly win a fall...which would he a great heel tactic if the match actually wasnt in Canada the Gunns thing was like she got "kidnapped" by Team Canada at some pointz then was a match stipulation at some other point, but in the end she just plain out turned heel while managing Hugh Morrus in a US title match and threw in the white towel and then I think tore her clothes off to show a Canadia bikini Awesome joined I actually dont remember why, his entire WCA run was just transitioning from lovely gimmicks with no real good reason
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That "Canadian Rules" match is so bad. - The show was absolute poo poo anyway so the fans are looking for anyone to cheer. It's in Vancouver so naturally they cheer for Lance Storm, the dastardly heel who has the nerve to be a proud Canadian. - They tease a SPECIAL CANADIAN ENFORCER, hinting that it will be Bret Hart. In fact it's... Jacques Rougeau! This was probably supposed to be great heel heat, but the crowd continued to cheer Storm and Rougeau anyway. - Rougeau keeps cancelling out Awesome's pinfalls, much to the crowd's delight as he poses with a rulebook multiple times. - The commentators chide Storm for his and Rougeau's shenanigans. Fans cheer. - Storm wins via said shenanigans and the crowd cheers. Finally Bret Hart, consummate professional, comes out to give Storm and Rougeau a piece of his mind. Actually he doesn't, he hugs them, the fans cheer, and the commentators chide Bret Hart. It was clearly supposed to tap into the US vs Canada feud from 1997 WWF but forgot why and how that worked. WWF would do the same gimmick less than a year later with William Regal and Chris Jericho, except that worked because it was heel Regal tapping into the British aristocracy part of his character in Chicago. Hedgehog Pie fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Jan 25, 2021 |
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MassRafTer posted:Even with Lance you have a month and a half of good matches and then the Awesome match getting ruined by booking and a never ending feud with the god awful Misfits in Action. I am willing to accept that I look at that period with rose-colored glasses, but I feel like Storm had 6-9 months as this unbeatable phenom, and had like 2-3 belts at once. Didn't he hand one to Elix? I think Elix joined because he played in the CFL once.
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Red posted:I am willing to accept that I look at that period with rose-colored glasses, but I feel like Storm had 6-9 months as this unbeatable phenom, and had like 2-3 belts at once. Didn't he hand one to Elix? I think Elix joined because he played in the CFL once. No, he did not. The Canadian Rules match where he lost 4 times in one match was 3 months after his debut. He held 3 belts for less than a month before giving two of them away and held the US title for 3 months. Elix never actually played in the CFL but most people didn't realize that and it was kind of funny anyway.
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I guess they were also going for the same vibe as the Austin v. Dude Love match at Over The Edge '98, where Vince stacks the deck against Stone Cold. The difference is that there was a coherent story to the match that played into the finish where a white-hot babyface outsmarts the establishment heels and exploits the rules that they set out. Did the Canadian Rules match happen under Russo's watch? MassRafTer posted:No, he did not. The Canadian Rules match where he lost 4 times in one match was 3 months after his debut. He held 3 belts for less than a month before giving two of them away and held the US title for 3 months. Elix never actually played in the CFL but most people didn't realize that and it was kind of funny anyway. I vaguely remember Elix Skipper not actually ever playing in the CFL was alluded to as well, like "can't seem to find any record of him playing, but hey, we'll take him at his word." Which is much better than "Antonio Cesaro got banned from playing in the Top 14 domestic French Rugby Union competition. It's true!" For a rugby guy like me, it's like "Yeah? Prove it. Which club? What year? What position? He's got the proportions of a loose forward. Which role was he? No. 8? Blidside or openside? (Trap sprung, French teams play left and right flankers, not the traditional blindside/openside) Did he win any test caps for Switzerland?" I get why Jibble went on about that - he's clearly a massive rugby union fan, and French rugby is full of mad men like Armand Vaquerin, Alain Esteve and Richard Dourthe, and incidents like the Battle of Nantes, where the French national team successfully unnerved the All Blacks that day (who fielded guys who weren't exactly shrinking violets like Buck Shelford, Sean Fitzpatrick and Joe Stanley) by screaming and punching the walls and ceiling of the tunnel leading to the pitch, leaving bloody fistprints everywhere on their side. The problem is that it just really immediately undermines the credibility of the guy in an image-based profession. edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Jan 25, 2021 |
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Vagabundo posted:I guess they were also going for the same vibe as the Austin v. Dude Love match at Over The Edge '98, where Vince stacks the deck against Stone Cold. The difference is that there was a coherent story to the match that played into the finish where a white-hot babyface outsmarts the establishment heels and exploits the rules that they set out. Yes. The Lance Storm push started during a Russo mini break and then Terry Taylor or Johnny Ace bet Russo they could get Lance Storm over if they got to book him the way they wanted. But by New Blood Rising Russo was fully booking Storm's push.
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I guess he was going for something like OTE '98, only to gently caress it up spectacularly.
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MassRafTer posted:Yes. The Lance Storm push started during a Russo mini break and then Terry Taylor or Johnny Ace bet Russo they could get Lance Storm over if they got to book him the way they wanted. But by New Blood Rising Russo was fully booking Storm's push. Lance constantly having to ask Russo "but why am I dumb?" to try to get him to explain things is a great story.
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MassRafTer posted:No, he did not. The Canadian Rules match where he lost 4 times in one match was 3 months after his debut. He held 3 belts for less than a month before giving two of them away and held the US title for 3 months. Elix never actually played in the CFL but most people didn't realize that and it was kind of funny anyway. bonus points for giving the hardcore belt to PCO who dropped the belt to Norman Smiley the same night and then left the company with visa issues not letting him work in the US
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Rick Steiner trusting Buff at Halloween Havoc 98 is one of the most dumb face moves I've ever seen. WCW faces seemed to be incredible tough idiots that won in spite of their awful decisions. EDIT Ok the night after Deadly Game I can see exactly why WCW got massacred. WWE at the time knew how to do a corporate power story without running all over everyone constantly like the nWo. Bischoff really was a hack. TheKingslayer fucked around with this message at 12:19 on Jan 25, 2021 |
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TheKingslayer posted:Rick Steiner trusting Buff at Halloween Havoc 98 is one of the most dumb face moves I've ever seen. WCW faces seemed to be incredible tough idiots that won in spite of their awful decisions. Isn't it in character for Rick to be dumb and trusting, though? I mean, he's not Sting but being a good-natured doofus/clotheslining killing machine feels like his thing.
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Dawgstar posted:Isn't it in character for Rick to be dumb and trusting, though? I mean, he's not Sting but being a good-natured doofus/clotheslining killing machine feels like his thing. That's what he originally was in late 80s/early 90s NWA/WCW, but that was all dropped when they went to the WWF. Can't remember if they played that back up once they returned to WCW in the 90s though
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