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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:What's terrible about punishing sedition? who gives a gently caress about the legitimacy of a failed state that slaughters the poor and prints infinite money for the rich
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:What's terrible about punishing sedition? theyre sabotaging bidens agenda to do it not that he actually has agenda mind you but they like to pretend he does
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Jan 25, 2021 15:12
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Taintrunner posted:who gives a gently caress about the legitimacy of a failed state that slaughters the poor and prints infinite money for the rich Sure, why do anything then? I mean, if you want to codify the idea that the president is a king and can do anything he wants up to and including attempting to get legislators killed then don't do anything, but a successful fascist coup would make things infinitely worse for everyone.
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Jan 25, 2021 15:13
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Some Guy TT posted:theyre sabotaging bidens agenda to do it That would be cool af if impeaching trump distracted from the next venezuela coup attempt
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Jan 25, 2021 15:13
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:What's terrible about punishing sedition? They won't convict him so what do you envision the punishment being?
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Jan 25, 2021 15:14
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BitcoinRockefeller posted:They won't convict him so what do you envision the punishment being? You try to do the right thing whether it's going to be successful or not. And people call me a doomer, jesus christ.
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Jan 25, 2021 15:14
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Sure, why do anything then? lol you have a completely warped and hysterical view of the events of jan 6th if that is the overblown narrative you are spouting
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Jan 25, 2021 15:15
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Sure, why do anything then? A chud convention is not a fascist coup. It was a police guided tour of the capitol building, and the opposition party upon taking power has decided to refuse to do anything which would shore up their own legitimacy and give people a reason to support them, thus ensuring a fascist leadership by 2024 at the very latest. Joe Biden championed the mass slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslims. Pelosi covered up torture. They're nothing but a bunch of hard right ghouls that do not deserve your effort, much less your loyalty in any meaningful way, unless you're a liberal white supremacist freak that demands the poors know their place.
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Jan 25, 2021 15:17
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THS posted:lol you have a completely warped and hysterical view of the events of jan 6th if that is the overblown narrative you are spouting The president deliberately incited violence in an attempt to get the certification of the election results stopped and overturned, that isn't really subject to dispute.
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Jan 25, 2021 15:17
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Jan 25, 2021 15:18
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Taintrunner posted:A chud convention is not a fascist coup. It was a police guided tour of the capitol building, and the opposition party upon taking power has decided to refuse to do anything which would shore up their own legitimacy and give people a reason to support them, thus ensuring a fascist leadership by 2024 at the very latest. Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:The president deliberately incited violence in an attempt to get the certification of the election results stopped and overturned, that isn't really subject to dispute.
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Jan 25, 2021 15:18
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:The president deliberately incited violence in an attempt to get the certification of the election results stopped and overturned, that isn't really subject to dispute. Seems like it is since the prevailing thought is nothing is going to happen in the second impeachment in the senate.
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Jan 25, 2021 15:19
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:You try to do the right thing whether it's going to be successful or not. right on cue just as soon as we were done with dore chat
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Jan 25, 2021 15:19
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:The president deliberately incited violence in an attempt to get the certification of the election results stopped and overturned, that isn't really subject to dispute. So when Biden pledged to support the neo-Nazi fascists in the Ukraine and a fascist coup in Venezuela, as well as immediately abandoned basic proposals like a $15/hr minimum wage, the $2k emergency checks on day 1 of his presidency, and so on, is that not an incitement of violence by pissing in the face of the people that voted for him in the hopes of doing the things he promised to do?
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Jan 25, 2021 15:19
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We're all just vessels for God's divine plan so I don't see how crime should be punished
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Jan 25, 2021 15:20
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So you care more about the legitimacy of a white supremacist state that exists solely to slaughter the poor and print free money for Wall Street than working class politics. Got it, thanks. Back to D&D with you!
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Jan 25, 2021 15:20
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Taintrunner posted:So when Biden pledged to support the neo-Nazi fascists in the Ukraine and a fascist coup in Venezuela, as well as immediately abandoned basic proposals like a $15/hr minimum wage, the $2k emergency checks on day 1 of his presidency, and so on, is that not an incitement of violence by pissing in the face of the people that voted for him in the hopes of doing the things he promised to do? You'd prefer that the legislature de facto endorses what Alan Dershowitz argued, that nothing the president does should be actionable if he thinks it's good for the country, then? It should be pretty clear by now that accelerationism doesn't work.
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Jan 25, 2021 15:20
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It's so dumb. This person in power needs your support, you offer your support in exchange for something good. Why is this bad for so many people
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Jan 25, 2021 15:21
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:You'd prefer that the legislature de facto endorses what Alan Dershowitz argued, that nothing the president does should be actionable if he thinks it's good for the country, then? Biden was the accelerationist option, dumbass. Enjoy your Christian fascist one party state in 2024.
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Jan 25, 2021 15:21
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Just to make sure, this isn't a bit right? I am not reading d&d posts being pasted in here again am I?
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Jan 25, 2021 15:21
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:You'd prefer that the legislature de facto endorses what Alan Dershowitz argued, that nothing the president does should be actionable if he thinks it's good for the country, then? He's gone. Impeaching won't do a thing
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Jan 25, 2021 15:22
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Taintrunner posted:Biden was the accelerationist option, dumbass. Enjoy your Christian fascist one party state in 2024. So you agree with Alan Dershowitz, then? The president is a de facto king? Didn't expect to see someone endorsing Dershowitz here, but hey. Terror Sweat posted:He's gone. Impeaching won't do a thing You either punish people for transgressions or you admit before 330 million people that laws don't matter.
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Jan 25, 2021 15:22
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:The president deliberately incited violence in an attempt to get the certification of the election results stopped and overturned, that isn't really subject to dispute. i dispute it, because it wasn’t an attempt at a coup. an “attempt” doesn’t qualify as the q shaman chanting in the capitol building. you’re buying into this hysterical fairy tale that is only going to be used against domestic dissent, and not the kind where only the people you dont like get arrested by federal cops. the purpose of the narrative is increasing secret police activity and surveillance because an unorganized mob spooked nancy pelosi and the whol thing made for great tv. maybe you like that kind of poo poo lol
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Jan 25, 2021 15:22
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Taintrunner posted:Enjoy your Christian fascist one party state in 2024. Same as it ever was
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:this is loving insane lol Trust Science!
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Jan 25, 2021 15:24
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THS posted:i dispute it, because it wasn’t an attempt at a coup. an “attempt” doesn’t qualify as the q shaman chanting in the capitol building. you’re buying into this hysterical fairy tale that is only going to be used against domestic dissent, and not the kind where only the people you dont like get arrested by federal cops. the purpose of the narrative is increasing secret police activity and surveillance because an unorganized mob spooked nancy pelosi and the whol thing made for great tv. maybe you like that kind of poo poo lol There were thousands of useful idiots there and a small group of coordinated people who planned and intended to do violence and brought the means to do so. You've already got your surveillance state, the framing of what happened on January 6th has zero impact on that.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:So you agree with Alan Dershowitz, then? The president is a de facto king? You're really, really loving bad at this, considering that Biden endorsed literal crimes against humanity and has proceeded to spit in the face of every single working class American that thought he might actually do something for them for once, in exchange for backing fascist coups in the Middle East and Venezuela. Not to mention the Democrats rigged an entire primary in his favor in order to deny poor people healthcare, making Biden a de-facto king. Just admit you're a liberal white supremacist already and piss off back to D&D. The warmongering austerity rapist is going to piss in your face as you suck on his toes and wonder why your life gets worse every day for the next 4 years, maybe now is the time to sit in the mirror and reflect on what an embarrassment you've made of yourself.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:You either punish people for transgressions or you admit before 330 million people that laws don't matter. Correct. They don't.
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where's my loving money joe where's the loving student loan relief joe where's the loving kids joe where's actual climate legislation joe
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Jan 25, 2021 15:25
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THS posted:i dispute it, because it wasn’t an attempt at a coup. an “attempt” doesn’t qualify as the q shaman chanting in the capitol building. you’re buying into this hysterical fairy tale that is only going to be used against domestic dissent, and not the kind where only the people you dont like get arrested by federal cops. the purpose of the narrative is increasing secret police activity and surveillance because an unorganized mob spooked nancy pelosi and the whol thing made for great tv. maybe you like that kind of poo poo lol politics is nothing but a spectator sport to liberals like this. it's the avengers (2012) all over again
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:You try to do the right thing whether it's going to be successful or not. Well I guess I'm not going to get too worked up because storming the capital was the right thing, it just got done by the wrong people. You think this whole 2000=1400 thing would be going on if legislators understood they could face consequences from the constituents they're letting die in the streets?
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Jan 25, 2021 15:25
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Lostconfused posted:Correct. They don't. Which Joe Biden clearly knows, considering he's spent literal decades championing illegal wars and torture. Christ, what a dumbass.
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Jan 25, 2021 15:26
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cenotaph posted:A lot of people ostensibly on the left can't get their heads around the fact that politics is theater and you need to exploit every messaging opportunity and scrap of leverage you have to build a movement. The Republicans understand this and have dominated messaging for my entire life, to the point where people don't even know they're repeating right-wing talking points, but somehow emulating them would be bad. cenotaph posted:A lot of people ostensibly on the left can't get their heads around the fact that politics is theater and you need to exploit every messaging opportunity and scrap of leverage you have to build a movement. The Republicans understand this and have dominated messaging for my entire life, to the point where people don't even know they're repeating right-wing talking points, but somehow emulating them would be bad. cenotaph posted:A lot of people ostensibly on the left can't get their heads around the fact that politics is theater and you need to exploit every messaging opportunity and scrap of leverage you have to build a movement. The Republicans understand this and have dominated messaging for my entire life, to the point where people don't even know they're repeating right-wing talking points, but somehow emulating them would be bad. cenotaph posted:A lot of people ostensibly on the left can't get their heads around the fact that politics is theater and you need to exploit every messaging opportunity and scrap of leverage you have to build a movement. The Republicans understand this and have dominated messaging for my entire life, to the point where people don't even know they're repeating right-wing talking points, but somehow emulating them would be bad.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:You either punish people for transgressions or you admit before 330 million people that laws don't matter. you might want to sit down for this
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:There were thousands of useful idiots there and a small group of coordinated people who planned and intended to do violence and brought the means to do so. heres what really happened: you have liberal hysterics post 9/11 brain and a spectacular event which you failed to process in a sober way has affected your ability to judge a situation in any way outside the context of screaming about Insurrection and Sedition against our Republic. it’s pathetic
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lol brie learning from virgil. next bad faith cold open is going to be another triumphant debate victory speexh edit: oops my app hosed up, I'm pages behind
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Jan 25, 2021 15:27
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THS posted:heres what really happened: you have liberal hysterics post 9/11 brain and a spectacular event which you failed to process in a sober way has affected your ability to judge a situation in any way outside the context of screaming about Insurrection and Sedition against our Republic. it’s pathetic pretty much! also the patriot act which biden wrote was a clear violation of multiple constitutional amendments. loving lmfao. dumbass!
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Jan 25, 2021 15:28
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Taintrunner posted:You're really, really loving bad at this, considering that Biden endorsed literal crimes against humanity and has proceeded to spit in the face of every single working class American that thought he might actually do something for them for once, in exchange for backing fascist coups in the Middle East and Venezuela. Not to mention the Democrats rigged an entire primary in his favor in order to deny poor people healthcare, making Biden a de-facto king. "Joe Biden is president and did bad things, therefore we can't punish anything bad any president does" is a weird way to look at things.
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You guys are saying laws don't matter? To the rich and powerful? In America? Absurd!
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THS posted:heres what really happened: you have liberal hysterics post 9/11 brain and a spectacular event which you failed to process in a sober way has affected your ability to judge a situation in any way outside the context of screaming about Insurrection and Sedition against our Republic. it’s pathetic Ah, so no one went to the capitol building intending to do violence against legislators? Populon posted:You guys are saying laws don't matter? To the rich and powerful? In America? Absurd?! You either at least pretend laws matter or you just publicly say "gently caress it" and push the country off the edge of the cliff, option two hurts more people than it helps.
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