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kater
Nov 16, 2010

getting mailed 500 mora 100 times rules

ive been using childe and hes good at killing stuff but not getting big rear end numbers makes me sad.

e:

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dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

if you aren't getting huge vape crits with Childe, there is definitely some sort of problem

CubeTheory
Mar 26, 2010

Cube Reversal
I've got a pretty fun and interesting team going now of Noelle (C6), Fischl (C6), and Albedo. I can't figure out a fourth person to run on the team though. Noelle has 100% ult uptime and Fischl and Albedo have 100% skill uptime, and I just rain down procs on their head as I spin to win with my giant rock sword, but I feel like I could really push it over the top with a good fourth. Any suggestions?

funkymonks
Aug 31, 2004

Pillbug

CubeTheory posted:

I've got a pretty fun and interesting team going now of Noelle (C6), Fischl (C6), and Albedo. I can't figure out a fourth person to run on the team though. Noelle has 100% ult uptime and Fischl and Albedo have 100% skill uptime, and I just rain down procs on their head as I spin to win with my giant rock sword, but I feel like I could really push it over the top with a good fourth. Any suggestions?

Bennet makes every team better.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

CubeTheory posted:

I've got a pretty fun and interesting team going now of Noelle (C6), Fischl (C6), and Albedo. I can't figure out a fourth person to run on the team though. Noelle has 100% ult uptime and Fischl and Albedo have 100% skill uptime, and I just rain down procs on their head as I spin to win with my giant rock sword, but I feel like I could really push it over the top with a good fourth. Any suggestions?
Xingqiu. I was playing around with this exact trio today. He is very happy the more you left click.

No Wave fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Jan 26, 2021

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

well if you're committed to spinning then it does rule XQ out

Bennett/Beidou/Diona are probably the three to look at? Bennett for boosting Noelle herself, Beidou since her off-field burst (which works with spin) will have better uptime with Fischl, and Diona for the stamina reduction on her shield

CubeTheory
Mar 26, 2010

Cube Reversal
Xinqiu is unfortunately the only 4 star I don't have, I do have a C2 or C3 Beidou that and that seems pretty interesting, so I'll probably mess around with that.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Ultima66 posted:

So this weekend I logged in to find that someone had hacked my account and blown all my saved gems/stardust on standard banner rolls. Googling shows this is apparently a pretty prevalent issue with this game right now, since there's no actual security around anyone just logging into your account with an email/password from anywhere. Lots of posts on Reddit about the same thing happening to people, and some claims of hackers messing with their display name/signatures as well. Supposedly if you have an email account/any other account linked that they can't get access to then they can't actually steal the account but will gently caress with things just for the hell of it. Or maybe there is some way to steal the account and the hacker does rolls to see if they get anything sellable? But that seems unlikely here because I have a pretty advanced account at AR 48 with multiple developed 5*s.

I contacted Mihoyo support and they gave me a nothing answer saying I can't get refunded (which I don't even care about, that's not the point of me contacting them about getting hacked), and changed my password. But ehhhhh it's hard for me to want to keep playing at this point. It's not even about the resources that were lost or anything, just the idea that someone could just hack the account and destroy all my items or something.

This convinced me to make my password something really complex and use a password manager, because it would suck big-time if this happened. I had it linked to my phone, but apparently that isn't enough on its own to prevent people from logging in based off of what happened to you (and I know that the password I was using before has been compromised before).

Sucks that happened to you, though; I'm feeling lucky that I didn't have to learn the hard way.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Ultima66 posted:

This game doesn't have proper 2FA which is why this is happening to people. You don't need 2FA to log in to the account and roll and do whatever you would while logged in normally. You probably do need 2FA to actually change the password/linked accounts.

Also yes I know I'm supposed to use a password manager and the preaching is not saying anything that people don't already know.

Oh no, I was talking about passwords in general, not for the game.

MajorBonnet
May 28, 2009

How did I get here?

RareAcumen posted:

Oh no, I was talking about passwords in general, not for the game.

You should still use unique passwords, otherwise an attacker can compromise all of your accounts by compromising your email or phone and knowing your typical password.

Flair
Apr 5, 2016

RareAcumen posted:

So as long as you have 2 factor on your phone or something reusing passwords is fine right?

NO

Bloody Emissary posted:

If you want to be super paranoid about password safety, you can use unique correct horse battery staple passwords (with caps/numbers/symbols substituted in, of course) for everything and keep password hints in the manager instead. I use hints that look like real passwords, but are written to remind me of the real phrase and what my substitutions are.

If you want to be super-super paranoid (like me) you can keep these hints written down on a little piece of paper instead of in a digital manager. :v:

Being super super paranoid for a game that already has anti-cheat and always connect to the Internet is a bit of loss clause, and the trade off is not worth. Nonetheless, if you want to be super super super paranoid, you roll a casino dice with a random selection of words like this: https://theworld.com/~reinhold/diceware.html

Bloody Emissary
Mar 31, 2014

Powawa~n

Flair posted:

Being super super paranoid for a game that already has anti-cheat and always connect to the Internet is a bit of loss clause, and the trade off is not worth. Nonetheless, if you want to be super super super paranoid, you roll a casino dice with a random selection of words like this: https://theworld.com/~reinhold/diceware.html

What's the trade-off here, not being able to enter my passwords via cut-and-paste? That's convenient, I guess, but I've never done it in the first place and wouldn't be especially troubled by continuing to not do so.

By necessity, the hints have to be paired with their corresponding accounts so that I don't forget which passwords match the accounts I rarely access (like my Dropbox account). I'd rather not keep these signals of where I have accounts on a device that could be remotely accessed.

Flair
Apr 5, 2016

Bloody Emissary posted:

What's the trade-off here, not being able to enter my passwords via cut-and-paste? That's convenient, I guess, but I've never done it in the first place and wouldn't be especially troubled by continuing to not do so.

By necessity, the hints have to be paired with their corresponding accounts so that I don't forget which passwords match the accounts I rarely access (like my Dropbox account). I'd rather not keep these signals of where I have accounts on a device that could be remotely accessed.

I would say the trade off is keeping those pieces of paper safe and/or organized. With a password manager, it's relatively easy to generate passwords that can be more random than rolling casino dice and keep a large repository of (disassociated, throwaway) passwords/accounts.

Nonetheless, for a Genshin Impact account, I feel like it's more likely to be compromised from another vector if your password is long, random.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




MajorBonnet posted:

You should still use unique passwords, otherwise an attacker can compromise all of your accounts by compromising your email or phone and knowing your typical password.

Okay then, I wanted to be sure what everyone was talking about specifically. Like, my gmail account sends me a notification on my phone and I have to hit a button there to get into it now so that's why I was asking so many follow up questions.

edit: Oh, I was getting two-factor authenticaiton and two-step verification mixed up

RareAcumen fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Jan 26, 2021

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

The only way to truly be secure is to personally visit miHoYo HQ when you want to log on.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Well, anyway, I think I caught another change to the game. You know that Mystic ore that you can get directions to find more of from both of the blacksmiths in Mondstadt and Liyue? I accidentally clicked a few times with it and did a couple of the resin+ore ones in a row. I swear it used to be only 1 a day beforehand.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

RareAcumen posted:

Well, anyway, I think I caught another change to the game. You know that Mystic ore that you can get directions to find more of from both of the blacksmiths in Mondstadt and Liyue? I accidentally clicked a few times with it and did a couple of the resin+ore ones in a row. I swear it used to be only 1 a day beforehand.
the mystic ore (and blacksmith directions) reset is 2 hours after official reset time

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry

Cattail Prophet posted:

Does this actually have rewards? I've never gotten any ingame notifications about it and forgot to follow the link when it got posted in the thread.

Obligatory link to keep alive.

Finally bought all the toys for them. The tiny Dragonspine that freezes over the pond is cute.

My favorite photo so far has been Mona, and it reinforces my choice to make her the fifth expedition member in addition to the four who have the time bonus on 'em. Keep hunting for mushrooms, Mona.

padijun
Feb 5, 2004

murderbears forever
venti, bennett, and xingqiu at 225+ ER, diluc at 160, the damage never stops :thumbsup:

I broke my personal best for a domain, 1:05 in the VV/maiden one

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008

:gowron::m10:
I like using Venti and Zhongli in addition to the three 4*s with expedition bonuses. Venti hangs out with Dvalin, and Zhongli hangs out with his adeptbros :3:

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Anime Schoolgirl posted:

the mystic ore (and blacksmith directions) reset is 2 hours after official reset time

Oh no, I mean making the top tier weapon ore using mystic ore and resin. I swear that you used to be able to do one a day and only that but now you can do like 3 or more. I did it on accident when it happened at any rate.

Detheros
Apr 11, 2010

I want to die.



I use Amber with the 4 bonus explorers because she's top of the list. :effort:

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

RareAcumen posted:

Oh no, I mean making the top tier weapon ore using mystic ore and resin. I swear that you used to be able to do one a day and only that but now you can do like 3 or more. I did it on accident when it happened at any rate.
that was always unlimited (as long as you had resin)

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

that was always unlimited (as long as you had resin)

It's essentially a way to dump resin into weapon exp, which had been a problem for whales with infinite resin but ran out of things to spend it on.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Anime Schoolgirl posted:

that was always unlimited (as long as you had resin)

Ohhh, so that's how it works! I had no idea, honestly. If I didn't add those by accident I never would've known because I'm always using mine to make condensed resin.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
Oh my god the slime game sells 99 lots of mora that each come in it’s own mail.

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!
There's a button to claim everything in your inbox at once

kater
Nov 16, 2010

dogsicle posted:

if you aren't getting huge vape crits with Childe, there is definitely some sort of problem

Mmmm what would you suggest as a setup for this?

Benny e will last a few seconds even after reacting. I guess xiangling might be pretty good. Klee would be a weird choice.

I unno I wasn’t even using a pyro just fishl and uh xq maybe. I don’t have the best artifacts ever on childe and they aren’t completely maxed but I was only getting like 2k hits on ripslash. It was actually funny, I did dvalin with him and the first window I used only childe and did like 15% hp. Then the next I had everything rolling and did 80%.

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.
E: extremely wrong thread

Soothing Vapors fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Jan 26, 2021

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

kater posted:

Mmmm what would you suggest as a setup for this?

Benny e will last a few seconds even after reacting. I guess xiangling might be pretty good. Klee would be a weird choice.

I unno I wasn’t even using a pyro just fishl and uh xq maybe. I don’t have the best artifacts ever on childe and they aren’t completely maxed but I was only getting like 2k hits on ripslash. It was actually funny, I did dvalin with him and the first window I used only childe and did like 15% hp. Then the next I had everything rolling and did 80%.

if you want a single big number then yeah, you'll need to run a pyro. either have Bennett lay down his field and then Childe vapes his burst in it or throw out XL's burst and do the same. Fish/XQ is by no means bad, just by nature of their damage you're getting a cloud of small numbers.

i still have not really used XL, so the degree to which her burst might set up subsequent vapes isn't something i'm familiar with, but in theory it would be the advantage to her vs Bennett setting up bigger single bursts.

dogsicle fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jan 26, 2021

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

inthesto posted:

There's a button to claim everything in your inbox at once

There isn’t a button to buy all 99 lots though

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008

:gowron::m10:
Some interesting research on reaction mechanics (the section called "Elemental Gauge"):
https://old.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/l5ip9y/3_levels_of_elemental_reactions_indepth_guide_for/

This explains why I've always felt like the 2x reactions were harder to use effectively. Turns out it's because it actually is harder to consistently set them up.

Also nice knowing how Chongyun's being able to triple proc a multiplication reaction is pretty much a trick exclusive to him at the moment.

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




gandlethorpe posted:

Some interesting research on reaction mechanics (the section called "Elemental Gauge"):
https://old.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/l5ip9y/3_levels_of_elemental_reactions_indepth_guide_for/

This explains why I've always felt like the 2x reactions were harder to use effectively. Turns out it's because it actually is harder to consistently set them up.

Also nice knowing how Chongyun's being able to triple proc a multiplication reaction is pretty much a trick exclusive to him at the moment.

sonofabitch

no wonder my diluc has always felt kinda weak when trying to vape, i've been doing it backwards

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
1.5x reactions end up better to build around because they're so easy to get multiple triggers off of. If Xingqiu was exactly the same but ice it would be much more finicky to have things line up correctly and you'd often end up with pyro stuck on the bottom and cryo acting as the trigger element.

For single-hit nukes you'll want 2x so if Hu Tao's ult works as a big nuke it will be nice to find a way to melt it rather than vaporize it.


It's a very good post, the summary of how you can use hydro carry to enable pyro support and hydro sup to enable pyro carry is very well put. It's why the dreams of Ganyu enabling Klee/Diluc fell off fairly quickly - you almost inevitably end up melting the icicles instead of Diluc's E.

EDIT: The funniest part of that article to me is that Zhong Li's ult is 4U, the highest value in the game (and only shared by one other ability). If I'm understanding this correctly it means that pressing Q with him will cleanse all other elemental effects for no benefit. Nice character mihoyo.

No Wave fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Jan 26, 2021

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008

:gowron::m10:

Hexel posted:

sonofabitch

no wonder my diluc has always felt kinda weak when trying to vape, i've been doing it backwards

It's the other way around. Vaporize with Hydro or melt with Pyro. These are the 2x version that hit harder but can't be used successively unless you have a ludicrous way of supplying of the other element.

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




I've been vaporizing with the pyro.

So in a team with Diluc, XQ, Sucrose and Bennett I should apply hydro with XQ, swirl it, apply pyro with Bennett then vaporize it with XQ?

Then let Diluc E trigger and re-trigger it with the rain swords?

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
You want to swirl pyro. Most of your damage will be pyro.

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




Roger, thank you.

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

not sure how you arrange it to maximize Witch and all that, but when running that team i will lead with Bennett skill or burst, swirl, XQ can vape and get his swords, Diluc comes out to burst and then do pyro normals with staggered skill uses for more vapes.

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RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




dogsicle posted:

not sure how you arrange it to maximize Witch and all that, but when running that team i will lead with Bennett skill or burst, swirl, XQ can vape and get his swords, Diluc comes out to burst and then do pyro normals with staggered skill uses for more vapes.

Ah nice an order of operations for Diluc.

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