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Here4DaGangBang posted:Are they not just selling the cats whole to unscrupulous spare parts dealers, I wonder? That's my understanding. I meant the cat is gone, not that it was cut open and the platinum excavated.  (Please don't shame me for the rust, we're Canadian, it's congenital)
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They need to track down and prosecute the shady guy paying meth'd out people when they bring in 100 cats at a time. It's bad enough in California that every muffler shop has and will weld you a cage to go around your cat.
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Jan 21, 2021 17:51
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MomJeans420 posted:They need to track down and prosecute the shady guy paying meth'd out people when they bring in 100 cats at a time. It's bad enough in California that every muffler shop has and will weld you a cage to go around your cat. I have a friend in the bay area who had the cat stolen off of his Prius. Some place welded up a cage or installed some kind of panel underneath the car to deter it getting stolen a second time.
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Jan 21, 2021 18:05
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The Prius cats must be really easy to access as they're ALWAYS being hit in my area.
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Jan 21, 2021 20:27
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MomJeans420 posted:They need to track down and prosecute the shady guy paying meth'd out people when they bring in 100 cats at a time. It's bad enough in California that every muffler shop has and will weld you a cage to go around your cat. 
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Jan 21, 2021 20:33
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Harley Davidson' 40 minute virtual launch video showed no new motorcycles whatsoever. Here is a 5 minute review of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFhuMJOXzZQ
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Jan 22, 2021 01:43
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Slavvy posted:Wait, what? For like, the handful of grams of precious metal there's people hacksawing cats out? They use sawzalls and cordless angle grinders. And it’s profitable enough that they drive reasonably nice cars and work in teams. https://youtu.be/CoikldsTdsI https://youtu.be/dVKFNhuEkN8 Prius cats go for £300 by all accounts. They love Priuses.
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Jan 22, 2021 09:17
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Horse Clocks posted:They use sawzalls and cordless angle grinders. FTFY Second video is worth a watch because of how loving sketchy that jack is. The car is rolling around, and this dude still gets underneath it.
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Jan 22, 2021 09:50
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Want to see that video again but a third car pulls up and steals the cat off the thieves' car while they're busy doing the first one.
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Jan 22, 2021 10:30
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Vehicle and vehicle related theft in London is a blight. So glad I don't live there any more.
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Jan 22, 2021 13:29
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MetaJew posted:FTFY I think that’s why they backed the black car up, to keep the Prius from rolling? Either way I like that they had to check to see if it even had a cat still before they started
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Jan 22, 2021 13:52
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Nitrox posted:Harley Davidson' 40 minute virtual launch video showed no new motorcycles whatsoever. Here is a 5 minute review of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFhuMJOXzZQ Wow gently caress harley forever that was pathetic. They should sell the livewire, bronx, hdADV, and maybe a stupid full dresser for the rich traditionalists. Ax everything else. I mean they should if they were a motorcycle company, not a lifestyle company.
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Jan 22, 2021 16:35
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Listen, the motorcycle arm of the Harley Davidson t-shirt company is doing their best out there. Give them a break. T-shirt production hasn’t even been affected and I think that’s pretty impressive
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Jan 22, 2021 16:45
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No new colours for the LiveWire either. How do you not even add new paintjobs for your flagship EV?
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Jan 22, 2021 17:12
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Why bother when they're probably impatient to put it under the stairs?
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Jan 22, 2021 17:19
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Steakandchips posted:No new colours for the LiveWire either. Because they're not selling any. They're never going to recoup the investment on them, so why bother spending money - no matter how little - on changing paint? Be glad the whole thing isn't just flat black ABS plastic wherever possible
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Jan 22, 2021 17:29
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The live wire was cancelled 20 minutes after it was announced.
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Jan 22, 2021 17:50
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOwxxsPaogY
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Jan 22, 2021 18:16
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:The live wire was cancelled 20 minutes after it was announced. It's still being sold. They have 2021 models (which are the same as 2020 models). They really need to reduce it in price. I'm super interested in one but almost £30000 is mental.
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Steakandchips posted:It's still being sold. They have 2021 models (which are the same as 2020 models). Pretty sure he means HD basically abandoned the Livewire as soon as it came out, just like they've done with every other non-V-twin, non-cruiser bike they've ever made
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Jan 22, 2021 21:22
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They spent an enormous amount of money marketing it using the Long Way Up...
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Steakandchips posted:They spent an enormous amount of money marketing it using the Long Way Up... Their marketing spend for 2019 was $388 million. https://biztimes.com/harleys-advertising-rd-costs-jump-by-combined-52-million/ That was up, but still 336mm for 2018. Under either number, I'm skeptical that long way up cost all that much at all for Harley in the grand scheme of things or that it represents a particular commitment. It's all just, I think, part and parcel of HD's fundamental problem. They make fine albeit extraordinarily expensive bikes that aren't particularly pushing the envelope anywhere and are really selling a lifestyle (and super expensive bikes) to older customers. Would a commitment to the livewire be successful? I don't know. Maybe? If they cut the price in half.
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In the first episode of Long Way Up don’t they talk about how the mechanics and engineers that customized the two bikes did it on their own (unpaid implied) time? If so HD spent fuckall on the show other than donating the two base bikes.
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builds character posted:Their marketing spend for 2019 was $388 million. https://biztimes.com/harleys-advertising-rd-costs-jump-by-combined-52-million/ Most of that number is the cost of printing t-shirts 
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Yeah my understanding of LWU is Harley committed to the cost of two livewires and that’s about it.
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MetaJew posted:I have a friend in the bay area who had the cat stolen off of his Prius. Some place welded up a cage or installed some kind of panel underneath the car to deter it getting stolen a second time. The worst part about this is California legally requires you to buy an OEM $$$$ cat to replace the stolen one.
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When I first moved out to California I had replaced a rotted out piece of black rubber hose on the PCV filter with some aftermarket blue rubber hose, and the fucker at the smog check place marked it as non-compliant and made me go and buy the $70 black rubber hose from Ford to get signed off as CA emissions compliant gently caress CARB
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Jan 24, 2021 19:52
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Yes, gently caress all emissions regulation because of one pedantic prick.
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No CARB sucks, you could effectively regulate emissions without having to be as lame as CARB is. As far as I can tell, every person involved in CARB hates all vehicles. It's like having white supremacists in charge of your immigration policy. In a sane world, I could do whatever I wanted as long as I pass a sniffer test, but that won't work in CA.
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MomJeans420 posted:No CARB sucks, you could effectively regulate emissions without having to be as lame as CARB is. As far as I can tell, every person involved in CARB hates all vehicles. It's like having white supremacists in charge of your immigration policy. Ya this is what I don't get, OEM or not shouldn't matter at all as long as you aren't polluting. Also personally I think there should be an option to pay more or something to support more involved checks that like check yearly millage too or some such. Thinking that basically I could get tested every year to verify emissions level and then there is a factor based on how many miles I travel. Like a 60s muscle car obviously terrible polluter and currently excluded from smog, I think it would be a good idea to include them but basically make it so you could only put so many miles on it per year relative to the emissions level. If I run a straight pipe gas guzzler but only for 100 miles/month during the summer, that's less yearly emissions than a civic putting down 25k miles a year or whatever the math works out too. (Also I realize putting cost behind it is a bit of a less ideal solution, but to a certain extent I believe ICE needs to move into more of a luxury good and obviously testing more frequently and more involved does cost more, maybe just SMOG check places should record odometer when you go) Anyway CARB is such a loving idiotic way to go about something that is ultimately a good thing.
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I don't know if that recap mentioned it but HD confirmed to Jalopnik that, to my utter lack of surprise, they're killing off the Street series https://jalopnik.com/harley-davidson-just-killed-its-cheap-motorcycles-1846114955
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Phy posted:I don't know if that recap mentioned it but HD confirmed to Jalopnik that, to my utter lack of surprise, they're killing off the Street series This would make perfect sense in the original context of the street series, which was intended to teach them how to build smaller, cheaper, water cooled bikes and then immediately get replaced by something less lovely when the spadework had been done (kind of like kia/hyundai circa 2004). Learning completed, the new water cooled line was meant to come in and simultaneously replace both the sportster range and the street range with one unified line-up, as well as adding the ADV as a bonus. This was an astonishing thing because it meant that they recognised the problems, had a sensible plan to fix the problems, and exhibited the capacity to think beyond the next fiscal quarter. Then trump, covid, 'murrica meant that guy was replaced by a quarter-chaser and now that replacement line has been axed in favour of chasing diminishing immediate gains from rich old fucks, so harley are destined to punch themselves in the balls until they follow their declining boomer fanbase swirling down the drain.
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I'm really, really disappointed that Matt Levatitch got kicked out. I had never even considered Harleys until they started showcasing these new models. The bikes honestly look outdated, like they are from another time period and trying too hard. The PT Cruisers of motorcycles style wise. They do sound cool though (not the ones that are extra-loud on purpose). The Harley riders I see out there are nice folks but honestly they look kind of like fossils. Most of them really are in half helmets and leather vests like they're cosplaying and buying one would have felt like buying into that culture. I'm not too sure about cruisers either, the ergonomics don't feel natural to me, but the Future Custom looked pretty cool tho. And the Pan America looks nice too but out of my price range for sure The HD Bronx though . . . that looked loving sick!!!! It's recognizably a Harley Davidson, yet new and modern. I decided not to get another motorcycle so I could wait until it came out in case I wanted to get one. Yeah, new model, probably Ducati Monster 797 pricing for the 750cc version, bad idea and all . . . but I was excited about it. But now its cancelled so it looks I'm getting an SV650. I don't think Jochen Zeitz is going to take HD anywhere exciting, and I think that's sad. I think there were a lot of people in the same boat as me, that don't feel any attachment to the air-cooled V Twins and heavy cruisers. But more than ready to give New Harley a chance with no baggage, like a brand reborn.
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OctaMurk posted:The HD Bronx though . . . that looked loving sick!!!! It's recognizably a Harley Davidson, yet new and modern. I decided not to get another motorcycle so I could wait until it came out in case I wanted to get one. Yeah, new model, probably Ducati Monster 797 pricing for the 750cc version, bad idea and all . . . but I was excited about it. But now its cancelled so it looks I'm getting an SV650.
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T-Shirts can only fit baggers on them due to their size so it makes sense they have to scrap the other lines.
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OctaMurk posted:The HD Bronx though . . . that looked loving sick!!!! It's recognizably a Harley Davidson, yet new and modern. I decided not to get another motorcycle so I could wait until it came out in case I wanted to get one. Yeah, new model, probably Ducati Monster 797 pricing for the 750cc version, bad idea and all . . . but I was excited about it. But now its cancelled so it looks I'm getting an SV650. This is exactly me. I was thinking "wow am I actually going to go get a harley?!" with their bronx and adv. Totally would have given them a chance. But nope and now I'm burned by the experience and would only get an Indian if I got anything American.
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TheBacon posted:Ya this is what I don't get, OEM or not shouldn't matter at all as long as you aren't polluting. Older cars which pollute are something like 1% of the cars tested here in Colorado. The vast majority of them pass every two years not by fixing anything, but by the "hardship" waiver. Essentially go find a shop to charge you $1 over the state mandated maximum "fix it cost" ($750 I think), and you are good for another 2 years, even if the shop doesn't even touch the car.
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Coydog posted:This is exactly me. I was thinking "wow am I actually going to go get a harley?!" with their bronx and adv. Totally would have given them a chance. But nope and now I'm burned by the experience and would only get an Indian if I got anything American. The Bronx and the Custom 1250 look so good. Killing the Bronx was such a bone-headed move. I hope they don't kill the Custom 1250.
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Steakandchips posted:The Bronx and the Custom 1250 look so good. Here is a handy Harley cancellation flow chart to help Is the bike a classic bagger that is the same as it’s been for 90 years? -> YES -> it will never be canceled I V NO I V It will be cancelled immediately It can be combined with this even easier to use chart Has Harley finally changed their ways? -> NO
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I know the way profit margins work on the Big Three's pickup trucks make it worth their time to spiral ever upwards into ridiculously expensive luxo packages where you're basically cosplaying the sole owner/operator/guy with any truck at all of a ranch the size of Saskatchewan, is that what's going on at Harley? It's just easier to make money off a $30,000 Heritage Freedom Custom Screamin Open Road Motorcouch than off new product?
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