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/\ One of the hardest things to get unstuck /\ About five years ago I got out my childhood collection and found two of those and that was an absolute bitch to undo.
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I think I remember doing that once as a kid as well.
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Jan 27, 2021 05:40
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My worst crime was sticking two of these video cameras together.
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Jan 27, 2021 06:04
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Gardens bag 11. Using the angled hook to join the walls together was straight up rear end. There has to have been a better way to do that. Very difficult.
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Jan 27, 2021 06:28
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The Bloop posted:You wake up to every one of your antennas looking like this: Nonononononononononono
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Jan 27, 2021 06:37
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Oh god, the ucs falcon is actually available on the website. But I should like, buy a knockoff and NOT spend $800. Right?
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Jan 27, 2021 15:52
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If you have the money available, buy legit lego.
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Jan 27, 2021 15:54
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If you don't have the money available, are the knockoffs actually decent? I know there are a ton of different brands that I assume vary wildly in quality. I've always bought legit and plan to continue doing so for the most part, but at $800 it's between getting a knock off and not getting it at all.
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Jan 27, 2021 16:03
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Yeah I guess it's not that I absolutely can't spend 800, it's just that 800 would buy a lot of the cool knockoff modular sets I've been looking at. I was looking again last night and didn't realize just how many different brands there are. Was it King or King Mould that someone said was pretty good? I thought someone said one of them was Lepin's new name but then I also saw some still being sold under the Lepin name so I have no idea. What I really got a kick out of were the names of sets trying to avoid either being sued or just search engine results, so instead of a knockoff shoe store one was labeled Place Where U Buy S-H-O-E-S. And the Eiffel Tower was big Paris Iron Tower so I guess France doesn't sue them?
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Jan 27, 2021 16:10
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France is notoriously protective of the eiffel tower's image so that makes sense. But in general, the whole Lepin fiasco appears to have convinced the knockoff vendors to respect copyrights.
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Jan 27, 2021 16:14
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xzzy posted:But in general, the whole Lepin fiasco appears to have convinced the knockoff vendors to respect copyrights. ehhh no. You can get every popular Lego set as a knock-off, still. King, Queen, J/G, Lion King etc...(all follow up companies from Lepin). It's like Lego manages to shut one down, and ten others pop up, hydra-style. I wouldn't buy them because it's breach of copyright. Similar to how I always hunt down the MoC designer that inspired a MK set and buy instructions from them. But I can understand why people look at them. Lego pricing makes it hard not to look at them, and brick quality as well as availability has improved so much over the last couple of years, I can absolutely understand it's tempting. tuo fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Jan 27, 2021 |
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Jan 27, 2021 16:26
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davebo posted:Yeah I guess it's not that I absolutely can't spend 800, it's just that 800 would buy a lot of the cool knockoff modular sets I've been looking at I got my 75192 for something like 33% off couple of years ago. A popular brand that carried the Lego exclusives went bankrupt over here, and already had a 25% clearance thing going on, and with a couple coupons and stuff I think I arrived at 33% off. I'd keep an eye open for such deals.
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Jan 27, 2021 16:33
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I meant they are respecting the copyright issues that have gone to court, such as product names and printed materials. Obviously selling a clone of an official set is super scummy but afaik it's much harder to win a copyright lawsuit over it.
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Jan 27, 2021 16:33
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tuo posted:I got my 75192 for something like 33% off couple of years ago. A popular brand that carried the Lego exclusives went bankrupt over here, and already had a 25% clearance thing going on, and with a couple coupons and stuff I think I arrived at 33% off. I'd keep an eye open for such deals. That's good to know. I assumed since they were going for big markups on ebay and never in stock in the stores or website that deals wouldn't be possible. It has been around for years though so it's just a matter of time before everyone who wants one has one and they've made a bit more than demand warrants, so maybe one day.
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Jan 27, 2021 16:37
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The one thing that would make me a bit wary about knock-offs is if you get screwed in some way, there's probably no customer support. Could ultimately still be cheaper to replace missing or broken parts with real lego, but it feels like a bigger gamble to me. Also it depends on what kind of savings you're getting. If it's half the cost, that is probably very tempting, but I assume most of these places aren't going to be giving out free shipping.
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Jan 27, 2021 16:39
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davebo posted:Oh god, the ucs falcon is actually available on the website. But I should like, buy a knockoff and NOT spend $800. Right? I just called my gf and said hey persuade me not to buy this. She said well where would you put it? And its your money do what you want. That didn't help
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Jan 27, 2021 17:20
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If you consider that once they're out of stock again you can sell it used for 800 plus shipping then it's essentially free if you don't lose any pieces. Edit: one sold for 780 recently so that's $20 for the enjoyment of building and the annoyance of taking it all apart. davebo fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Jan 27, 2021 |
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Jan 27, 2021 17:27
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xzzy posted:I meant they are respecting the copyright issues that have gone to court, such as product names and printed materials. King prints the Lego instructions (pretty high quality as binders, but you can see the resolution of the downloadable PDF from Lego in the instructions), just replaces the first couple of pages and covers with their own. It absolutely super scummy. No idea if they still do it, but I saw those instructions for their ISD knockoff first hand. No idea how this isn't taken down, then again it's a different continent so I assume it takes a while, similar to the Lepin-case.
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Jan 27, 2021 17:30
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Oxyclean posted:The one thing that would make me a bit wary about knock-offs is if you get screwed in some way, there's probably no customer support. Could ultimately still be cheaper to replace missing or broken parts with real lego, but it feels like a bigger gamble to me. Including shipping, you are paying like 30% to 35% of what Lego asks, that's why it's so tempting. UCS Slave 1 for example is like 70 Dollars, shipped, with GoBricks-quality. It's something Lego has to get under control/shut down.. I'll also stop right now talking about this, because I know it's not a popular subject here.
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Jan 27, 2021 17:34
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tuo posted:Including shipping, you are paying like 30% to 35% of what Lego asks, that's why it's so tempting. UCS Slave 1 for example is like 70 Dollars, shipped, with GoBricks-quality. It's something Lego has to get under control/shut down.. I'll also stop right now talking about this, because I know it's not a popular subject here. I guess I am still relatively new to the thread so apologies if that's a taboo subject here. My wife is still on work calls so if that thing is still available when I get to my computer at lunch I'm gonna get it. Worst case scenario she disapproves, I can just sell it at cost locally on Craigslist then all I've done is earn some VIP points. Hopefully the lego bouquet I got her for Valentine's day will smooth things over.
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Jan 27, 2021 17:39
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I don't think it's taboo, it's just a pretty tainted subject. For many Lego fans, chinese bricks are Lepin, and Leping broke copyright left and right. Also the brick quality was all over the place. Nowadays, it's a bit different, as there are a lot of chinese factories (some run by Lego  ) that produce very high quality bricks, one of the biggest brands is GoBricks, used for example by XingBao, Mould King, BlueBrixx etc., for actually original sets designed by them, or in case of Mould King for example in (mostly) reverse engineered MoCs. These sets come with numbered bags, high quality instructions, and building techniques that get closer and closer to Lego, but usually lack the creativity (not all, but most) that Lego pours into theirs. BlueBrixx for example has the Kingdom Come Delivery license and does pretty awesome medieval sets, then there's Matel's Ultra Construx that also now makes decent bricks and has licenes for Game of Thrones, Halo and stuff. (all of these bricks are compatible to each other)Then there are completely different (non-chinese bricks, still 100% compatible) companies that specialise on other stuff like ships and/or military models, like Cobi (maybe some of the highest quality bricks available, having just built the USS Missouri I think they might have surpassed Lego especially in clutch quality and power of red pieces). All of this is not Lego, and since this is the Lego thread, I think a lot of people are not interested in the discussion about it and see it as a derail, I assume? e: I'll learn one day how to spell Missouri.... tuo fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Jan 27, 2021 |
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Jan 27, 2021 17:49
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tuo posted:BlueBrixx for example has the Kingdom Come Delivery license and does pretty awesome medieval sets
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Jan 27, 2021 17:58
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engessa posted:Wait, what? Where? https://www.bluebrixx.com/en/ search for "kingdom come". They are made in cooperation with XingBao. The sets are really good from what I am beeing told, I only built the watermill, not the rest, and it's really good. But I definitely would not build them as your first Lego set, some parts are a bit tricky e: and I wanted to shup up 
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Jan 27, 2021 17:59
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but isn't Lego's Brick Link System or whatever it's called kind of what they're breaking copyright on since they're all the same dimensions and what-not? Or is the mere fact that "LEGO" isn't raised on each little peg different enough to not be an issue? Edit: wife came out as I had the website up and said to "buy the fuckin' legos" so it looks like we're actually gonna build this thing. She is best wife and went from never having seen Star Wars when we met to buying us and our baby Star Wars hoodies for halloween last year. Thank you thread for feeding this stupid habit. davebo fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Jan 27, 2021 |
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Jan 27, 2021 18:03
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No, everyone can make compatible bricks. There are very few bricks that Lego once got a patent on which look slightly different on other brands (like a ridge or so to get around the patent, for example 2x2 jumper plate). The only thing that others can't make are minifigs, as Lego has a 3d copyright (3D Bildmarke, no idea what the correct translation is) on them (which BlueBrixx is currently fighting, after Lego started a legal brick war with them), and of course the copyright on the set design and instructions. Third party bricks are 100% legal...minifigs are a nono.
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Jan 27, 2021 18:05
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Lego has sued several companies for making compatible bricks and have lost all of their suits. They had patents on the brick design which expired ages ago, so everyone is in the clear (with a few exceptions as noted). That's why megabloks continues to exist.
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Jan 27, 2021 18:23
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A couple years ago I bought some generic Lego when I was in China and they were p-cool. One was a Batman Tumbler that wasn't the same as the Lego one, and a ironman exosuit that was different from the Lego version, and had a dragon alternate build, and a little Starbucks made out of a slightly smaller size brick. I wouldn't mix them into my loose Lego, but for souvenirs I'll never take apart, I love them. The brick quality is better than the old Halo megablox, and damned close to Lego. But you can tell they are not. The batmobile even came with a brick separator, which aside from logo, was indistinguishable from the Lego ones. The exosuit is in a box but here's the others(Santa for scale) 
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Jan 27, 2021 18:52
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davebo posted:but isn't Lego's Brick Link System or whatever it's called kind of what they're breaking copyright on since they're all the same dimensions and what-not? Or is the mere fact that "LEGO" isn't raised on each little peg different enough to not be an issue? I was waffling as well on the UCS MF for my 50th birthday and my wife gave me the same response. She gets this is a hobby that I actually make some money back on and I’m not out spending on much else like booze and strip clubs so she’s happy and it’s a win / win.
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Jan 27, 2021 18:58
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Waltzing Along posted:Gardens bag 11. I wasn't thrilled with that either, same with the awning attachment in that building. Looking at it compared to the attachment for the angled walls on the 1st floor buildings, I think it's to get the perfect 45 degree angle for the staircase to go to the next level.
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Jan 27, 2021 19:42
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re: third party products I think there's something of an ethical gray area when we consider these, which to me comes down to what the origin of the set's design is. - Original designs, such as by CADA? Don't really have a problem here. - Licensed MOC designs, such as by... I don't know any offhand, but I know it's a thing. No issues! Actually kind of cool. - Stolen LEGO designs, like Lepin/Mould King? Not OK to me personally. I understand wanting an expensive, out-of-production set and not being able to afford it, so I absolutely withhold judgement, but this is the line for me. - Stolen MOC designs, like mocbrickland? gently caress off.
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Jan 27, 2021 22:38
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I’m sorry, it comes with what?
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Jan 27, 2021 22:40
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I can’t vouch for the quality of all the different knockoff brands but I’m sure it’s all just the same factories and they just slap a new name on it without production being affected. I have a ‘Lion King’ modular and it looks great but the pieces don’t really behave like LEGO. The clutch is fussier and pieces will connect to each other “wrong” and you have to separate them and put them back the right way. Whatever the assessment is of these bootleg brands, I found yourwobb to be a secure and reputable website that shipped my order quickly and gave me exactly what was described.
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Jan 27, 2021 23:05
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Gingerbread house is up for backorder if anyone is looking.
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The_Doctor posted:I’m sorry, it comes with what?
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 From the meme thread
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Jan 28, 2021 01:53
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Tonight I put all of my wanted minifigures into a BrickLink wanted list and let BL do a search for me. BL preceded to provide some of the worst sellers (by store terms) I've ever seen and the prices are nuts. I want roughly 41 figs and it's telling me that seven sellers have them for ~$600. I'm not particularly hungry for them right now so I'm in no rush, and at $600 even less of a rush. Here's the kicker, as I added the figs to the wanted lists it shows the average price. I added up average price as I added them and it should have been ~$300 total. Now, I figured a premium to get them from one seller so I was figuring it'd end up around the $400 range. I was surprised when $600 came up.
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Jan 28, 2021 03:01
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Earth posted:Tonight I put all of my wanted minifigures into a BrickLink wanted list and let BL do a search for me. BL preceded to provide some of the worst sellers (by store terms) I've ever seen and the prices are nuts. I want roughly 41 figs and it's telling me that seven sellers have them for ~$600. I'm not particularly hungry for them right now so I'm in no rush, and at $600 even less of a rush. I did this recently trying to get missing parts for PoTC Queen Anne's Revenge and it spit out the stupidest combination of stores at a ridiculous cost. Took hours to do it manually but saved about 1/3 of what it calculated.
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Jan 28, 2021 03:12
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Just finished Barracuda Bay and realized I have nowhere deep enough to put it, think I’m just going to convert it into the ship and let my kid play with the island piece. Fun as hell build, fingers haven’t been sore like this in awhile.
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Jan 28, 2021 03:27
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Setting a max price per item for every single item on the want list seems to be the only way around BLs ridiculous store suggestion algorithm
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tomapot posted:I did this recently trying to get missing parts for PoTC Queen Anne's Revenge and it spit out the stupidest combination of stores at a ridiculous cost. Took hours to do it manually but saved about 1/3 of what it calculated. Yeah, I'll look manually when I have a weekend with nothing to do. Tonight I'm too busy readying all about GME, it's a fun train wreck. The other thing to keep in mind is oftentimes you can find better deals on eBay. There are lots of minifig sellers on eBay that will have multiples of what you want and ship together to keep shipping down. I find eBay people a little more reasonable on price too. eBayers seem to be more motivated to sell. That's where I got my $31 Akita and on BL the lowest offer was $38 before shipping. On eBay I got S1 Zombie for $20 +$4 shipping and they had a Deadpool I added in that was $15. $39 shipped for two very desirable figs. Try to find that deal on BL.
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