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Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Hey I've made some pretty good Skyrim mods. I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo7oU6qNae4

Edit: Terrible snipe, besides, I believe both RobCo Certified and Cirosan's Classic Overhaul (Not to mention Jsawyer itself) are all Goon-made.

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Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I dont think Jsawyer really counts.

I'd still be down to make the zybourne clock in New Vegas, but I'd want to have something to present first rather than jump into an ill considered on-the-fly sales pitch.

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


Max Wilco posted:

I don't know this is as bad as Hunt Down the Freeman (I didn't play HDtF, though it looked like a broken mess and you had to pay for it). The Frontier seems like it had a lot more effort put behind it, but it seems very on-rails, and tonally, it seems all over the place with its content.

The NCR campaign is pretty bad but you can bail on it pretty much immediately. There's still cool stuff to find in the world, and I liked walking about the parts of Portland that actually recognizably look like Portland. It's not 100% a mess like HDtF is, it would be a lot easier to write off if it were. Even the NCR campaign, which is a big dumb Call of Duty campaign, is impressive from a technical standpoint at times.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Wherever I hear goon and modding my mind always jumps to the godawful final fantasy 6 romhack that filled it with poo poo memes and references to SA. It drags the median quality down into the loving gutters.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

From a modding discord, but apparently the pedo did a ton of work on this mod, to the point where the mod apparently can't function without his contributions.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Agents are GO! posted:

From a modding discord, but apparently the pedo did a ton of work on this mod, to the point where the mod apparently can't function without his contributions.

Oh poo poo, I thought they just needed new pipboy pictures from the initial description.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Well maybe they can take another seven years, properly vet the content, and release something good.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Defiance Industries posted:

The NCR campaign is pretty bad but you can bail on it pretty much immediately. There's still cool stuff to find in the world, and I liked walking about the parts of Portland that actually recognizably look like Portland. It's not 100% a mess like HDtF is, it would be a lot easier to write off if it were. Even the NCR campaign, which is a big dumb Call of Duty campaign, is impressive from a technical standpoint at times.

Well, the torrent link from a few pages back is still up, and I was downloading it, but then I saw that it's lacking a hotfix, and if that video was anything to go off, the mod will bug out pretty frequently. Plus, my internet keeps crapping out while trying to download it. I think I'll just wait until when (or if) it gets reposted or added to Steam.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

discord person posted:

"the worse part is he did alot of the poo poo to make the mod even work"

"he did a ton of the background work snd made poo poo work"

Trying to get more info

He just told me (paraphrase) "I dont know the details, but (pedo guy) may have done modeling because he snuck a plushie of his character in."

If he did the bulk of modeling and animation, fuckin oof that mods dead.

Agents are GO! fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Jan 28, 2021

Crazy Joe Wilson
Jul 4, 2007

Justifiably Mad!

Gaius Marius posted:

Not saying your hearts not in the right place but have you seen how poo poo the previous goon mods for games are.

Pucemoose's stuff is pretty good?

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Gaius Marius posted:

Well maybe they can take another seven years, properly vet the content, and release something good.

Fallout: The Frontier - A Realm Reborn

Nckdictator
Sep 8, 2006
Just..someone
So, uh, is North Road Remastered any good? Trying to find some quest mods that aren't poo poo (already played the Bounties series)

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Max Wilco posted:

I mean, there's still a listing for it on Steam, but it still says, 'coming soon'.

Is that torrent link for it still up, or did that get axed too?

There was 3 years between Enderal for Skyrim being released and Enderal for Skyrim being released on Steam, and that near had universal acclaim when it first came out. (they did add an expansion pack and what not for steam, but I don't think it was a ton of extra content compared to the initial release).

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Do you guys realize the real harm you're causing by jumping to calling this guy a pedophile.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Dongicus
Jun 12, 2015

Lurdiak posted:

Do you guys realize the real harm you're causing by jumping to calling this guy a pedophile.

Turdiak.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
I'm kind of willing to take the word of the people who worked with him :shrug:

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
How long did it take for Black Mesa to go from total conversion mod to full steam storepage release?

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Calling it right now. Fallout miami will get pulled with the same problem after release

Proletarian Mango
May 21, 2011

Nckdictator posted:

So, uh, is North Road Remastered any good? Trying to find some quest mods that aren't poo poo (already played the Bounties series)

Yeah, it's pretty deec. I also heartily recommend Autumn Leaves if you havent played it, friggin amazing experience imo

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles

Arcsquad12 posted:

How long did it take for Black Mesa to go from total conversion mod to full steam storepage release?

I believe it was a very quick turnaround, just a few weeks? Valve had deliberately decided to make it their show home for Steam Greenlight, so as I recall it released as a download on the mod team's website, then launched alongside Steam Greenlight something like the next day, then was accepted by valve like two weeks later and went live basically immediately.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Reveilled posted:

I believe it was a very quick turnaround, just a few weeks? Valve had deliberately decided to make it their show home for Steam Greenlight, so as I recall it released as a download on the mod team's website, then launched alongside Steam Greenlight something like the next day, then was accepted by valve like two weeks later and went live basically immediately.

Are you sure? I remember playing the early public releases for Black Mesa from moddb years before it hit Steam. It was definitely playable up to at least On A Rail for some time.

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles

Arcsquad12 posted:

Are you sure? I remember playing the early public releases for Black Mesa from moddb years before it hit Steam. It was definitely playable up to at least On A Rail for some time.

It's been a really long time but I seem to recall that the mod went through a few early public releases before going into "when it's done" hell for years. Something like 2008-2012? And in that period there were no public releases at all, and the next time there was a publically released build, it was in 2012 with the version that would go live on Steam just a few weeks later.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Arcsquad12 posted:

Are you sure? I remember playing the early public releases for Black Mesa from moddb years before it hit Steam. It was definitely playable up to at least On A Rail for some time.

From Wikipedia:

quote:

The first standalone version of Black Mesa was released as a free download on September 14, 2012.[16][17] This contained remakes of all Half-Life's chapters except the final chapter set on the alien world Xen, which the team intended to rework for inclusion in a future release, as Xen in the original Half-Life was often considered its weakest part.[18] The development team estimated that the initial release of Black Mesa gave players eight to ten hours of content to complete.[18] Black Mesa's initial release coincided with the launch of Valve's Steam Greenlight program which allowed users to vote for games to be put onto the Steam storefront. Black Mesa became one of the first ten titles to be voted on by fans and approved by Valve to be included on Steam through Greenlight.[19]

Transitioning to commercial release (2013–2014)

A new version of the Source engine had been introduced by 2013 that, in addition to new engine features, included support for OS X and Linux platforms, however, developers had to pay to gain access to the full feature set of this engine. According to Adam Engels, the project lead at the completion of Black Mesa, Valve had actually approached their team around this time and suggested to them about making Black Mesa a commercial release and thus getting a license to the Source engine.[7] The team considered this option, and since access to the full Source engine would help make Black Mesa the best game they could, they opted to go the commercial route as to be able to pay for that license, not having intended to profit off the game from the start.[20] The team affirmed they had gotten Valve's permission to sell by November 2013.[20] Some of the team were later invited to Valve's offices in Bellevue, Washington in 2015.[7]

At this point in 2013, the team cautioned that a final version was still some distance away as they were still dealing with the updated Source engine, and they had not yet done much with Xen.[20] Crowbar Collective continued to offer the free version of Black Mesa based on the earlier Source engine off their website.[20] With the new Source engine, the team started to look closer at how Valve had used Source in Half-Life 2 compared to what they had done in the original Half-Life, and developed changes for Black Mesa that reflected what they believed were Valve's design principles in Half-Life 2. One of those was the idea that when introducing a new mechanic, the level was designed to teach the new mechanic without potential harm to the player-character, followed by then testing that mechanic in a more harmful situation to the character.[21] The team also included a brief mention to the long-fall boots from Aperture Science from the Portal series; Portal had come out after Half-Life 2 but loosely tied narratively to the Half-Life universe, and the team felt it appropriate to show the competing lab's technology within the Black Mesa facility from this connection.[21]

Once the team had gotten all but the Xen levels completed in the new Source engine they were content with, they released these on Steam's early access on May 5, 2015 to get feedback and bug testing, stating that the Xen sections were still a work in progress. This version also included the deathmatch multiplayer modes with some of Half-Life's remade maps.[22] Early access also brought Crowbar Collective additional support from developers and artists to help with finalizing the project.[7]

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

Corpse runner

Gaius Marius posted:

Calling it right now. Fallout miami will get pulled with the same problem after release

Considering the way their page talks about things, I suspect their problems will be of another variety.

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

Gaius Marius posted:

Not saying your hearts not in the right place but have you seen how poo poo the previous goon mods for games are.

The big dumb goon gun pack that was made bc goons don’t give a poo poo about asking permissions for mod redistribution was good if morally ambiguous

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U38MuskiimE

uhhhhh NSFL

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles

Max Wilco posted:

From Wikipedia:

Yeah, it was the 2012 version that got a Greenlight release a few weeks later, and while it wasn't technically done since it was missing Xen, it was hyped up the gills all the same. Then in 2015 it was changed from a free standalone mod to a commercial product, but it had already had its storefront page for three years at that point.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
Announcement from the Discord:



Project lead is also stepping down.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...



That expression conveys how I (and the mod developers, by the sounds of it) feel about the Frontier right about now. :smith:

Avatar size for someone who wants an avatar, I guess:


-

I think (I'm not sure) but that audio may possibly be from a (now privated) video talking with the devs.

Max Wilco fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Jan 28, 2021

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Acebuckeye13 posted:

Announcement from the Discord:



Project lead is also stepping down.

Feel bad for the guy.

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari
7 years down the drain in one week. Incredible stuff

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
2021 continues to be a year.

I honestly do feel bad because there's some Gamebryo wizardry going on in the mod and it absolutely speaks to the talent some of the creators have. And it all implodes because of poor writing and a pedophile dominating the discourse.

EDIT:
Ehh, maybe not. I don't want to kick them while they're down by reminding them of failure. I'll just laugh as more of the writing is revealed through LPs.

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Jan 28, 2021

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Ibram Gaunt posted:

Feel bad for the guy.

The whole situation is just really sad.

Jamie Faith
Jan 13, 2020

https://twitter.com/JamieF4178/status/1354641434545156096

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

I'm finding this really hard to empathize with. This project was going on for seven years, are you telling me nobody knew about this person's predilections? I find that really hard to believe.

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

Agents are GO! posted:

I'm finding this really hard to empathize with. This project was going on for seven years, are you telling me nobody knew about this person's predilections? I find that really hard to believe.

lol at making this post on the something awful forums

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari
They probably didn't know about the pedo guy but they totally knew about bomb slave girl

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Look poor judgement and a lack of critical second opinions on the mod's finished state is one thing, and should be rightfully mocked because eeesh. I don't think "guy who was revealed to draw MLP child porn is also one of our lead mod devs" was on anybody's bingo card. Do we know if he was also the guy who wrote all the fetishes into the mod?

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Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Arcsquad12 posted:

Look poor judgement and a lack of critical second opinions on the mod's finished state is one thing, and should be rightfully mocked because eeesh. I don't think "guy who was revealed to draw MLP child porn is also one of our lead mod devs" was on anybody's bingo card. Do we know if he was also the guy who wrote all the fetishes into the mod?

He wasn't a writer. The writing stuff is all on other people.

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