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Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

There was a selftuning guitar that did something like this about 20 years ago

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Gato
Feb 1, 2012

Had to turn the radio off this morning because of another bloody vox-pop using ARE CHILDRENS MENTAL ELF to beat the "open everything up" drum. I'm working in CAMHS at the moment and can confirm that, yes, it is bad, kids are going nuts with isolation and anxiety and there's probably going to be a surge in school avoidance when they do open up, but ffs just carrying on the cycle of "back to normal, oops another lockdown" is going to be even worse.

Regarde Aduck posted:

Can’t the average gp just prescribe medication while waiting for the official diagnosis? They can prescribe other mental health meds.

Technically they can (there's no legal restriction on it, even if they're Controlled drugs) but most GPs are going to be reluctant to prescribe medication for a difficult-to-diagnose condition on the basis of a 10-minute consultation, especially if that medication has street value, especially if you're going to be on it for years while waiting for a formal diagnosis. ADHD meds are far from risk-free, they can have lots of physical and mental side effects and you have to be very careful if there's any suggestion of heart disease. Hence the vast majority of GPs will want to wait for a specialist opinion.

It's heartening to see more people being aware of ADHD, but I do worry that the discourse I've seen (in other places! not saying anyone here is saying this) sometimes strays into "well if it's so obvious to this random internet stranger that I might have it, why won't my stupid doctor just give me the amphetamines" but it really isn't that simple. The answer, of course, would be to fund mental health services better which I'm sure will happen any day now

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/AvaSantina/status/1354717234548142083

Why is he like this?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
becuase he's totally loving useless


journalists finally starting to realise he's poo poo lol

https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1354723399403266050?s=20

Jose fucked around with this message at 10:32 on Jan 28, 2021

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Haha yeah just came to post that^^

It's because it's a total decorum show "why yes he is the Prime Minister and that is accorded to the Prime Minister, never mind who he or she is". The rules say it's good.

As usual, libs and melts never understand they are the only losers who think these rules matter.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The gently caress does "supporting the PM on his trip to scotland" even mean? Is he opening for him? Is he doing the catering? Is he generally approving of unionism, is he just desperate to nosh the fucker off or something? He can get to scotland on his own he's the loving PM he doesn't need "support"

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
We should have a :decorum: with Keith. Or I guess :mitt: is close enough

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
who the gently caress is advising starmer that thinks any of this is good lol

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Perfectly normal breakfast over here

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life

Jose posted:

becuase he's totally loving useless


journalists finally starting to realise he's poo poo lol

https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1354723399403266050?s=20

Is this 'teachers not at greater risk' thing still based on that terribly written ONS report which didn't show anything like that at all?

Who am I kidding this is British politics of course everybody is still parroting the misread statistic and ignoring the noise of screaming statistics professors in the background.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
thats a lot of carbs for breakfast

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
My middle name is lots of carbs

Luckily my other middle name is metabolism that burns everything

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Jose posted:

thats a lot of carbs for breakfast

That's what breakfast is for?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Failed Imagineer posted:

We should have a :decorum: with Keith. Or I guess :mitt: is close enough

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

OwlFancier posted:

The gently caress does "supporting the PM on his trip to scotland" even mean? Is he opening for him? Is he doing the catering? Is he generally approving of unionism, is he just desperate to nosh the fucker off or something? He can get to scotland on his own he's the loving PM he doesn't need "support"

People need to get it into their heads that Starmer isn't the leader of the Labour Party. He's the Tory Minister of Opposition.

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out


You spelled it wrong

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Well spotted.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
hardline centrist lmao

https://twitter.com/MediaGuido/status/1354391134861189120?s=20

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life
For those who had missed the ONS teachers thing there's a thread here:
https://twitter.com/SarahDRasmussen/status/1343639143868493824

And I see the statistics regulator has finally advised the ONS to stop loving up.

Bit late now though after 4 months of government ministers, SAGE(!), the devolved governments, opposition politicians and even certain posters in this thread repeating it as fact.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Jedit posted:

People need to get it into their heads that Starmer isn't the leader of the Labour Party. He's the Tory Minister of Opposition.

Sure but like, I'm asking what it's even supposed to mean, it is a nonsense meaningless statement every way I can parse it.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
I also iq tested highly but then all that happened is teachers blamed me for being lazy even more

I mean I was totally lazy but also having significant mental health problems


Guavanaut posted:

Well spotted.



spelling should change each time as much as any file size limits allow imo

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
I consistently test high on IQ tests but have left the house more than once in odd shoes. Like not even "oh I have two pairs of black trainers and accidentally crossed them", once it was one trainer and one desert boot.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

goddamnedtwisto posted:

one trainer and one desert boot.
Centrism.txt

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
I've never had an IQ test but I just tell everyone up front that I'm an idiot and they assume I'm joking and must actually be smart as hell. It's worked for years now.

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.


Absolutely gently caress Guido, and not in a good way. Christina Pagel is a great follow on twitter for those (not me) who have sufficient fortitude.

https://mobile.twitter.com/chrischirp

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

DesperateDan posted:

spelling should change each time as much as any file size limits allow imo

Communist Bear
Oct 7, 2008

What the gently caress is a hardline centralist lmao.


"I'm sitting on this fence making no decisions REALLY REALLY HARD!"

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Gato posted:

Had to turn the radio off this morning because of another bloody vox-pop using ARE CHILDRENS MENTAL ELF to beat the "open everything up" drum. I'm working in CAMHS at the moment and can confirm that, yes, it is bad, kids are going nuts with isolation and anxiety and there's probably going to be a surge in school avoidance when they do open up, but ffs just carrying on the cycle of "back to normal, oops another lockdown" is going to be even worse.
The Tories are a real-life Buridan’s rear end where the two choices are ‘Good economy from everyone going shopping’ and ‘Good economy from having enough people left alive to run the shops’

Communist Bear posted:

What the gently caress is a hardline centralist lmao.


"I'm sitting on this fence making no decisions REALLY REALLY HARD!"
lol I bet even as you were typing this you realised you’d described Keith

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Communist Bear posted:

What the gently caress is a hardline centralist lmao.


"I'm sitting on this fence making no decisions REALLY REALLY HARD!"
Better things aren't possible but really loud.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


https://twitter.com/HowUpsetting/status/1354738522234744832?s=20

Jeremy Corbyn isn't leader of the opposition & isn't even a Labour MP any more and the Jewish Chronicle are still absolutely loving off the deepend. Straight up adopting recognised antisemitic tropes as truth.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
People are terrified about their kids. Their education and, for the younger ones, basic social development. My three year-old niece has barely interacted with another child for all of her life that she can remember.

Not saying we should open schools immediately or anything (that would be a disaster), but people vocalising their fear really isn't just idiots who want to go back to the pub and Tories who want money number to go up.

Moonwolf
Jun 29, 2004

Flee from th' terrifyin' evil of "NHS"!



Perfection

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

forkboy84 posted:

https://twitter.com/HowUpsetting/status/1354738522234744832?s=20

Jeremy Corbyn isn't leader of the opposition & isn't even a Labour MP any more and the Jewish Chronicle are still absolutely loving off the deepend. Straight up adopting recognised antisemitic tropes as truth.
Political education in this country is so dumbed down that we don't even have a working definition of 'far left' and 'far right' and then people wonder why proper opposition to things like systemic racism or radical 'third positionism' can't be mustered without talking heads both-sidesing themselves into a hole.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Noted far right antisemites "the jewish labour bund"

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

:five:

Communist Bear
Oct 7, 2008

TACD posted:

lol I bet even as you were typing this you realised you’d described Keith

Sadly, yes.

:negative:

Gato
Feb 1, 2012

peanut- posted:

People are terrified about their kids. Their education and, for the younger ones, basic social development. My three year-old niece has barely interacted with another child for all of her life that she can remember.

Not saying we should open schools immediately or anything (that would be a disaster), but people vocalising their fear really isn't just idiots who want to go back to the pub and Tories who want money number to go up.

I don't blame parents at all for being exhausted and worried about the situation, it's hosed up. it was the juxtaposition of anxious parents with Sensible Concerned Conservative MPs (can't remember who) to make a clear implication that schools should reopen (in that irritating deniable BBC way) that pissed me off. I don't know it it's selective listening on my part, but it feels like all the news I've seen lately has been building consent for throwing things open again ASAP, because that worked so well last time.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010
Much of my concern comes from the belief that the calls to reopen schools are based on a desire for the grinding gears of capitalism to keep going for the sake of THE ECONERMY rather than genuine concern over the welfare of children. I feel this view is at least partially validated by the Government clearly not giving a poo poo about children being actively abused, starving, or literally burning to death in dangerous housing (i.e. things which also relate to child welfare but do not make number go up)

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


peanut- posted:

People are terrified about their kids. Their education and, for the younger ones, basic social development. My three year-old niece has barely interacted with another child for all of her life that she can remember.

Not saying we should open schools immediately or anything (that would be a disaster), but people vocalising their fear really isn't just idiots who want to go back to the pub and Tories who want money number to go up.

Yep.

My daughter is five (nearly six) and we've started having a few illicit "accidental" meet-ups in local parks with friends because we can see how badly not seeing other children for most of the past year is effecting her. Nearly all of her friends are either blagging key worker parent status and going to various settings or have siblings so are getting at least that much child interaction. For us it's just mum, dad and granny (living on her own and bubbled with us.)

Her small friend who lives four doors down the street is only three and yesterday when our daughter told her she was her best friend she stopped and looked confused and then sadly said "I don't have any other friends." Heartbreaking. (She actually does because she went to kindergarten in The Before Times but when you're three and you've not seen someone for a few months they might as well not exist.)

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Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

:tviv:

[UKMT]

Me: [chanting] keith, kieth-

Other posters: keeth, KEETH

Keith: [pounding the button] TEETH, KEEB, KREET!

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