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Thanks to twisto for recommending I sign up as an NHS responder. I've just got home from delivering some oximeters to people on behalf of the local hospice. Didn't expect to get a job to do so quickly Tbh!
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 19:32 |
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As part of the new EU regulation on export controls for vaccines the EU has invoked Article 16 of the NI protocol to treat all vaccine shipments from the EU to NI as third country exports. Didn't take long for someone to trigger that
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 19:49 |
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kustomkarkommando posted:As part of the new EU regulation on export controls for vaccines the EU has invoked Article 16 of the NI protocol to treat all vaccine shipments from the EU to NI as third country exports. Arlene won't like that
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 19:55 |
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Ive been dealing with the fallout of Northern ireland all loving week and its just given me a loving headache. Contracts that were won years ago to supply a companies sites all over the UK and now they are refusing to pay any duties for goods delivered to N Ireland. 'The contract says no delivery charges' which yeah, it does. So if you class import duties as delivery charges we are indeed liable for it. If you don't, then the customer is liable. All week with this poo poo.
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 20:09 |
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The Perfect Element posted:Thanks to twisto for recommending I sign up as an NHS responder. I've just got home from delivering some oximeters to people on behalf of the local hospice. Didn't expect to get a job to do so quickly Tbh! I don't think I've ever had to wait more than five minutes for a job and it makes me feel guilty that I can only give an afternoon a week to it (and had to abandon it this week because my trainers are leaking). Going to see if I can get more time next week just to assuage my guilt over buying replacement trainers of Amazon.
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 20:10 |
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Failed Imagineer posted:Arlene won't like that Funny you should say that, she's literally just popped up on Channel 4 news to say the vaccine "was designed to save lives in the UK," which is quite the claim
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 20:10 |
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Niric posted:Funny you should say that, she's literally just popped up on Channel 4 news to say the vaccine "was designed to save lives in the UK," which is quite the claim She probably meant that the other way around, she's a good egg who deserves the benefit of the doubt. 🌝
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 20:21 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I don't think I've ever had to wait more than five minutes for a job and it makes me feel guilty that I can only give an afternoon a week to it (and had to abandon it this week because my trainers are leaking). It's certainly not as busy as that round here, but I do live in a suburban village. I assuage my amazon guilt by semi regularly donating to the 'Make Amazon Pay' campaign. Mainly laziness, but also because a personal boycott would achieve precisely gently caress all.
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 20:26 |
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Can honestly say I did not expect the EU to be the one that hosed up the Brexit agreement.
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 20:31 |
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big orleen gonna knock ur melt in m8
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 20:41 |
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Niric posted:Funny you should say that, she's literally just popped up on Channel 4 news to say the vaccine "was designed to save lives in the UK," which is quite the claim *designed to save protestant lives in the UK.
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 20:48 |
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sinky posted:*designed to save protestant lives in the UK. Arlene possibly believes all heathens to be the undead
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 20:58 |
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Re engineering the puckle gun to shoot vaccines at protestants and bullets at turks.
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 21:08 |
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Just watched The Big Short again. Great film.
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 21:14 |
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Haha I'm watching that right now It took ten minutes to download, there's a lot of seeders. This is like Contagion when the pandemic stated
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 21:16 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Just watched The Big Short again. Hah! I rewatched it last night, probably for similar reasons
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 21:18 |
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Has anything come from that Government minister who was on GMB this morning. I only caught it briefly (i think she was the prisons minister or something), but she was getting the usual grilling until she mentioned she knew what everyone was feeling because her dad died recently and then then GMB did like a 180 and were all sympathetic to her and stuff. However. When they asked if he died of covid, she kinda laughed a bit nervously and didn't answer the question right away and during all of the commotion of GMB trying desperately to not come across as monsters, i caught her then correct them briefly that he died with covid not of it before promptly moving on for a few minutes before the interview ended. I couldn't quite tell if GMB missed it or if they actually did catch it and layed the sympathy on extra thick in an attempt to catch her out at a later date.
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 21:53 |
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Kin posted:Has anything come from that Government minister who was on GMB this morning. I only caught it briefly (i think she was the prisons minister or something), but she was getting the usual grilling until she mentioned she knew what everyone was feeling because her dad died recently and then then GMB did like a 180 and were all sympathetic to her and stuff. Weird post.
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 22:25 |
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So what's the actual deal with this Article 16 thing then? Is it as nakedly stupid as it appears (that the EU think that people are going to be smuggling vaccines across the border) or is it some wider political point/punishment they're trying to give out?
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 22:32 |
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I think EU governments are getting in a bit of a flap about the slow pace of their vaccine rollouts and worrying about who'll get the blame for that (them) and they're doing things that aren't necessarily sensible so that they're seen to be doing something. It's almost... British.
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 22:37 |
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From the sounds of it the Commission did it without asking the Irish government, who flipped their lid and it's about to be walked back.
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 22:44 |
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In fact, here's a new FT article that talks about what's going on in Europe right now: https://www.ft.com/content/fe851440-abcb-43e0-a7c9-a86a05d275db The Financial Times posted:
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 22:45 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:So what's the actual deal with this Article 16 thing then? Is it as nakedly stupid as it appears (that the EU think that people are going to be smuggling vaccines across the border) or is it some wider political point/punishment they're trying to give out? The EU suspects that pharma companies will, in their eternal quest for money, renege on their contracts with the EU (but pocket the money they got) and export to other countries where they can sell it for higher profit. That is the suspicion with Astra Zeneca, which has already broken a number of terms in the contract. The EU doesn't suspect private persons are going to smuggle vaccine over the border, it suspects that pharma companies will. Again, Astra Zeneca has already demonstrated they are shady as hell, so there is no trust whatsoever. AZ also went on to publicly lie about the terms of the contract, so…yeah, no trust.
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 22:54 |
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quote:What are they going to do, stop European lorries coming in? It's not like there isn't precedent when Britain couldn't get its poo poo together a month ago.
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 23:01 |
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So what you're saying is I should plant turnips now because its all we're going to have to eat after we're forced to lock all the borders during lockdown 9 Christmas 2021 to avoid the European turbocorona virus because we got Chris Grayling to try to save the hedgehogs and he fed them all our supply of vacceine that we outbid the EU for.
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 00:06 |
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Can only speak from Dutch POV, but what's happening is the result of three things: 1) EU genuinely feels it has been screwed over by AZ with this shortfall thing (and to be fair to them, the contract publishing and "oh we will now deliver more than 31 million" all of a sudden shenanigans suggests they had a point here). They're feeling burned and can see issues on the horizon, which is getting them heat from nation states. 2) Many nation states' rollouts have been far worse than UK. Like, credit is due to a certain extent that the UK has handled the vaccine side of things if not "well", much better than most other nations. Citizens are blaming all levels of government. 3) EU was responsible for procurement and was trying to ensure smaller nations got a fair share. Positive view is out of fairness, cynical view is out of political benefit this delivers (though I lean to the former because I don't think the EU cares about selling itself to smaller countries who love it anyway). This actually hasn't had a huge impact in the end (actions last year with signing contract had more influence), but it is being blamed. 4) The procurement thing just adds a huge scale thing that can't be avoided. UK is 60 mill people from a factory. EU is 450 mill and trying to cover everyone. As a result the commission is panicking about a growing massive wave of discontentment directed their way. Cue dumb moves like this Ireland one that noone asked for. Edit: Also, final bit of colour, the Article 16 is barely making a ripple over here. Make of that what you will (EU is doing an inside job on all the papers, UK is focusing on big bad EU) Mesopotamia fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Jan 30, 2021 |
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Mebh posted:So what you're saying is I should plant turnips now because its all we're going to have to eat after we're forced to lock all the borders during lockdown 9 Christmas 2021 to avoid the European turbocorona Or grow weed er'ry day. bustin keaton posted:1) EU genuinely feels it has been screwed over by AZ with this shortfall thing (and to be fair to them, the contract publishing and "oh we will now deliver more than 31 million" all of a sudden shenanigans suggests they had a point here). They're feeling burned and can see issues on the horizon, which is getting them heat from nation states. bustin keaton posted:UK is 60 mill people from a factory.
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 00:34 |
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Guavanaut posted:
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 00:57 |
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is that one of those pictures they put on cigrit packs these days?
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 01:07 |
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Wankers? (I was gonna timestamp it but the whole thing's too drat good, go on, watch it, all 5 minutes)
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 01:21 |
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Weird post. Not so weird. Just trying to find out if her dad did die of covid or if she tried to imply it was covid related to avoid scrutiny. Lying about a dead dad to get out of trouble at work is a pretty low loving thing to do. Edit: here's a link to it https://metro.co.uk/video/minister-close-tears-gmb-revealing-father-died-week-covid-2343872/ There's other versions out there that crop it before she corrected the presenters, but it just seemed like an odd distinction to try and make clear. Like what's the difference between dying of covid vs dying with covid? Kin fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Jan 30, 2021 |
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Borrovan posted:Wankers? That was.... bizarre...
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 01:32 |
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Seems like the invoking of Article 16 was a whoopsie by whoever drafted the regulation on export controls apparently not fully checking on the full political ramifications and some hasty phone calls from Ireland has resulted in a reverse course on extending the restrictions to include NI https://twitter.com/ShonaMurray_/status/1355265895078227974 https://twitter.com/MichealMartinTD/status/1355288869726515200
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 01:44 |
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Kin posted:Like what's the difference between dying of covid vs dying with covid? "died with covid" is the kind of thing the virus sceptics say, because if you claim that covid is just one of many contributing factors in deaths rather than the actual cause you can pretend that the "real" death toll is much lower than those media sheeple keep telling everyone
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 01:48 |
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^^^ No. Died with covid is what the actual statistics around covid deaths that we quote in these threads say.Kin posted:Not so weird. Just trying to find out if her dad did die of covid or if she tried to imply it was covid related to avoid scrutiny. Like statistically, according to the numbers we're looking at noone has died of covid. They've all died within a certain number of days of a positive covid test, so with covid. But I don't even really care about that, you're "just trying to find out if her dad did die of covid or if she tried to imply it was covid related to avoid scrutiny." And I find that gross. Find something else if you must. Her dad died. With Covid.
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 02:01 |
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Julio Cruz posted:"died with covid" is the kind of thing the virus sceptics say, because if you claim that covid is just one of many contributing factors in deaths rather than the actual cause you can pretend that the "real" death toll is much lower than those media sheeple keep telling everyone So she was trying to simultaneously gain sympathy for her dad dying from covid and downplay the covid deaths by saying it wasn't because of covid? NotJustANumber99 posted:^^^ No. Died with covid is what the actual statistics around covid deaths that we quote in these threads say. I find someone potentially manipulating the death of a close family member for political gain pretty gross. I guess we just have different standards for what's acceptable. Kin fucked around with this message at 10:18 on Jan 30, 2021 |
# ? Jan 30, 2021 02:01 |
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Kin posted:I find someone potentially manipulating the death of a close family member for political gain pretty gross. I guess we just have different standards for what's acceptable. Kin posted:potentially manipulating Its her dad. Have a word with yourself.
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 02:07 |
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Its her dad. Have a word with yourself. It's a Tory, have a word with your if you're not assuming the worst about them.
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 02:12 |
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Its her dad. Have a word with yourself. David Cameron kept bringing up his dead disabled son every time someone brought up NHS cuts or cuts to disability services. They don't give a gently caress. Although in this case I'd say its a kneejerk reaction by the tory remembering they weren't supposed to say people died of Covid, just with Covid.
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All this just reminded me of the time Theresa May Was so scared of debating Corbyn that she sent Amber Rudd to the election debate in her place just after Rudd's father had died.
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