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Son of Rodney
Feb 22, 2006

ohmygodohmygodohmygod

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Do you guys have a set ceiling for when you plan to sell? I am completely new to all this

Can't help you there but I've got these great value bags for sale, perfect for holding. A steal at the price I'm offering, too.

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Jesustheastronaut!
Mar 9, 2014




Lipstick Apathy
Goons when bitcoins are $100 each: "what a bubble, if you buy now you're an idiot who deserves what you're about to lose"

Goons when gamestop jumped to $40 a share: "just another pump and dump, you already missed the curve, the only people making money now got in weeks ago"

Goons when Dogecoin jumps 800% in 6 hours after an Elon Musk tweet : " THIS is the way, boys! Time to hop aboard Lmao meme economy straight to the moon. HODL rofl :cheerdoge: :shibewow: "

ohnobugs
Feb 22, 2003


Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Do you guys have a set ceiling for when you plan to sell? I am completely new to all this

Sell when it's at the top.

Jesustheastronaut!
Mar 9, 2014




Lipstick Apathy

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Do you guys have a set ceiling for when you plan to sell? I am completely new to all this

For Dogecoin 0.420
For gamestop 420.0

Zeinin
May 7, 2003


I bought two shares of gme at 200 as an explicit play to blow up a hedge fund. What are the odds of this actually happening? Like, are any quants gonna miss a paycheck over this?

If there is no possible way this will result in more aggressive regulations on the equities market on the capital side (vs retail side) then I might as well sell at 420.69. however, if holding this stock will create a Gary's mod style physics glitch at Citadel, I will buy two more shares. Thoughts?

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
Buy high (on weed), sell low(down)

CheeseThief
Dec 28, 2012

Two wholesome boys to brighten your day

I'm playing the new long game, this current market is too volatile for me but I've got the inside track on the next big thing.

See, out of all this a few redditors are going to hit it big. Money passes hands from hedge funds to some newly minted millionaires who are going to want to live large and spend some money, they're going to want all the things they never had. And I'm going to be right there to profit off their largesse, I don't even need to buy in because I've been in this market for years!

You just watch, my limited edition funco pops are going to make me rich!

Charles Bukowski
Aug 26, 2003

Taskmaster 2023 Second Place Winner

Grimey Drawer
Just watch out for badgers and crossbows.

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Doges! Get your doges! Fresh doges! Highest quality meme crypto on the market, used by all the cool people. The rich condescending elites will hate you for having them! your children will love them, your wife will love you, your friends are going to want to be you. Get your doges!

Panic! At The Tesco
Aug 19, 2005

FART


The only cool thing Dogecoin ever did was sponsor a nascar



https://media2.giphy.com/media/cEYFeDHvTlS4zmRmPU4/giphy.mp4?cid=e1bb72ffb3610ba2e2f11d8d5d83cef62c673bef91ce571d&rid=giphy.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/csPdT0c.mp4

Galewolf
Jan 9, 2007

The human gallbladder is indeed a puzzle!
Investors of Rotterdam flexin their gains on negative nancy normies (Colored)



Edit: Lmao, found an even better one

Galewolf fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Jan 30, 2021

Orange Crush Rush
May 7, 2009

You don't need thumbs for revenge

Jesustheastronaut! posted:

Goons when bitcoins are $100 each: "what a bubble, if you buy now you're an idiot who deserves what you're about to lose"

Goons when gamestop jumped to $40 a share: "just another pump and dump, you already missed the curve, the only people making money now got in weeks ago"

Goons when Dogecoin jumps 800% in 6 hours after an Elon Musk tweet : " THIS is the way, boys! Time to hop aboard Lmao meme economy straight to the moon. HODL rofl :cheerdoge: :shibewow: "

I’m gonna be honest, I’ll never quite understand SA’s hate boner for Bitcoin and crypto in general. Like sure it’s risky as all gently caress and no one seems to make sense of it, but it’s also been somewhat consistent for a while now and people have made good money off it more then once so I don’t see how it’s much worse then most stocks.

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
Because bitcoin uses the electrical resources of a country the size of Ireland to create a financial cargo cult that just repeats the same old mistakes but in a more cartoon fashion. It is one of the biggest wastes of limited resources to play pretend banker. Also, the whole facilitates child porn and murder for hire thing.

Michael Corleone
Mar 30, 2011

by VideoGames

CheeseThief posted:

I'm playing the new long game, this current market is too volatile for me but I've got the inside track on the next big thing.

See, out of all this a few redditors are going to hit it big. Money passes hands from hedge funds to some newly minted millionaires who are going to want to live large and spend some money, they're going to want all the things they never had. And I'm going to be right there to profit off their largesse, I don't even need to buy in because I've been in this market for years!

You just watch, my limited edition funco pops are going to make me rich!

WSB limited release ONLY at Gamestop!
(stole that from reddit)

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
So here's a question from a clueless idiot.

What actually sets the price of a gamestop share? If I go on a stock trading app I don't get to haggle with anyone when i'm buying, and I don't get to set the price when I'm selling - i just have to go along with whatever number is the number of the day. So is a computer doing it - measuring demand and setting the price automatically according to some algo?

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
It's a ledger. People have orders to buy at X dollars, others have orders to sell at Y dollars. If X=Y nothing happens to the price. If nobody is selling at X, the buyer goes for X+1, the next lowest sell offer. This raises the price of the stock to the last value sold at

Reddit: to go further, since everybody knew the hedges were so hard on the gme short, they knew they had a guaranteed buyer at basically any price, so the sell orders were all super high

Arms_Akimbo fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Jan 30, 2021

Panic! At The Tesco
Aug 19, 2005

FART


Arms_Akimbo posted:

It's a ledger. People have orders to buy at X dollars, others have orders to sell at Y dollars. If X=Y nothing happens to the price. If nobody is selling at X, the buyer goes for X+1, the next lowest sell offer. This raises the price of the stock to the last value sold at

Reddit: to go further, since everybody knew the hedges were so hard on the gme short, they knew they had a guaranteed buyer at basically any price, so the sell orders were all super high

Am I right in thinking that because the hedges have shorted more stocks than exist that's why theyre extra turbo hosed?

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.

Panic! At The Tesco posted:

Am I right in thinking that because the hedges have shorted more stocks than exist that's why theyre extra turbo hosed?

That's a lot of it. They needed to buy 140% of the stock to settle the short, that's why they were buying at any price

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

eSports Chaebol posted:

Consider, that if Mr. Simpson had indeed killed Ms. Brown and Mr. Goldman, that lying about it would constitute perjury, which would only place him in further legal jeopardy, giving him no rational reason to do so.

Shorting more stock than exists and losing billions of dollars are merely stupid, not criminal. And losing a poo poo-ton of other rich people's money is a thing many hedge funds have done before now. As long as they haven't lied about anything the rich investors pretty much just have to suck it up.


Orange Crush Rush posted:

I’m gonna be honest, I’ll never quite understand SA’s hate boner for Bitcoin and crypto in general. Like sure it’s risky as all gently caress and no one seems to make sense of it, but it’s also been somewhat consistent for a while now and people have made good money off it more then once so I don’t see how it’s much worse then most stocks.

"people have made good money off it" applies to a whole shitload of things that are immoral or harmful to society


The reason to be against bitcoin is because it is wasting electricity on a scale that actually impacts the whole world, and because its best practical use is avoiding taxes and financial controls. Support of bitcoin is supporting a far worse world. The reason to make fun of bitcoin is because the wild value swings, complete lack of regulations, and baked-in deficiencies of bitcoin regularly wipe out the fortunes of nerd libertarians. Nerd libertarians* are a really great target for mockery.


*the three types of libertarian
sex & drugs libertarians: fine if not for their often dubious views about age of consent
FYGM business libertarians: basically republicans except minus the evangelical christian bits and with even more vampiric attitudes
nerd libertarians: "I'm so smart, it would be me giving the Galt speech if other people weren't keeping me down."

naem
May 29, 2011

KazigluBey
Oct 30, 2011

boner

imagine defending the practices of WallStreet billionaires, for free

lol

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005
i wish it was like this

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011


Yes, thank god the people on wsb are not procreating. If there is anything good we have achieved as a society it's this

naem
May 29, 2011


teardrop
Dec 20, 2004

by Pragmatica

Orange Crush Rush posted:

I’m gonna be honest, I’ll never quite understand SA’s hate boner for Bitcoin and crypto in general. Like sure it’s risky as all gently caress and no one seems to make sense of it, but it’s also been somewhat consistent for a while now and people have made good money off it more then once so I don’t see how it’s much worse then most stocks.

People have made good money off the roulette table but that doesn’t make it a good idea and the roulette wheel doesn’t use the power of a midsize country.

What you are saying is essentially “jerks told me putting all my money on 17 would be a bad idea but it had a huge payout, clearly they know nothing about money.” The payout doesn’t change that is was a bad idea by the odds. A big Bitcoin payout is exciting, but there are other ways to risk money, with bigger payouts, and better fundamentals (odds), like trading stocks on margin. Still not saying that is a good idea, but it is definitely a bad idea to play roulette if there is a slot machine with better odds right next to it.

Edit: for anyone asking the best price to sell at, that would be anything above $40 since that is what the stock was worth and it is in a bubble right now which is a very precarious place to be. If you lose money selling now, still a lot better than at $40. You will get better odds by selling this stock and buying any stock at random, than holding this stock.

teardrop fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Jan 30, 2021

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
I'm preparing to launch Postx, the important infrastructure for the emerging, distributed posting economy which enables threads to be created that couldn't have existed before. As more posts become tokenized, public threadchains provide the opportunity to establish a new cross-forums stack that is more efficient, transparent, and equitable than any system in the past. Some will consider this a threat, aware of the disruptive nature of frictionless forums posting. There will be setbacks, but persistence and commitment to long-term values means YOU can invest in this exciting new high-impact mission.

spunkshui
Oct 5, 2011



Orange Crush Rush posted:

I’m gonna be honest, I’ll never quite understand SA’s hate boner for Bitcoin and crypto in general. Like sure it’s risky as all gently caress and no one seems to make sense of it, but it’s also been somewhat consistent for a while now and people have made good money off it more then once so I don’t see how it’s much worse then most stocks.

Stocks dont suck up all the gaming gpus

I pray every day that crypto crashes due to a bug or an exchange failing.

gently caress crypto.

Never ever ever owning any of that poo poo.

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

I'm preparing to launch Postx, the important infrastructure for the emerging, distributed posting economy which enables threads to be created that couldn't have existed before. As more posts become tokenized, public threadchains provide the opportunity to establish a new cross-forums stack that is more efficient, transparent, and equitable than any system in the past. Some will consider this a threat, aware of the disruptive nature of frictionless forums posting. There will be setbacks, but persistence and commitment to long-term values means YOU can invest in this exciting new high-impact mission.

So you claim to have invented frictionless posting? Do you hold any patents? What would prevent a competitor from bringing frictionless less posting to the market too?

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


Galewolf posted:

It is hard to resist FOMO during the pump because everyone around you talks about making sick gains in half a day. People don't talk about their losses as much as their gains so there is a bias on information you hear.

Bingo. If I had a dollar for every person who was telling me how much they were ‘making’ on bitcoin only to suddenly stop talking about it after a month

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


spunkshui posted:

Stocks dont suck up all the gaming gpus

I pray every day that crypto crashes due to a bug or an exchange failing.

gently caress crypto.

Never ever ever owning any of that poo poo.

Don’t worry they’re pumping it the same way as they did last time- with tether. It’s all literally hot air and will collapse once the pumpers decide to liquidate

Universe Master
Jun 20, 2005

Darn Fine Pie

Remember when you could like, buy a video card with money?

Those were the days.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Orange Crush Rush posted:

I’m gonna be honest, I’ll never quite understand SA’s hate boner for Bitcoin and crypto in general.
Some of it is the fetishism that popped up over The Blockchain, but really it's stuff like MtGox just disappearing in the early days.

itry
Aug 23, 2019




JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

So here's a question from a clueless idiot.

What actually sets the price of a gamestop share? If I go on a stock trading app I don't get to haggle with anyone when i'm buying, and I don't get to set the price when I'm selling - i just have to go along with whatever number is the number of the day. So is a computer doing it - measuring demand and setting the price automatically according to some algo?

Have you ever sold a .jpg on the Steam market?

Edit: A lot of this is computers sitting miliseconds-seconds ahead of you on the communication cables selling/buying according to complex algorithms, yeah.

itry fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Jan 30, 2021

Fuckstick
Nov 30, 2000

Fun to watch the millennials break the stock market, but I’ll just stand back and watch the show. Rest assured when DOGE drops back down below a penny I will park a chunk of money there in anticipation of more shenanigans someday.

spunkshui
Oct 5, 2011



https://www.google.com/amp/s/market...21-1-1030020684

“Hedge funds and other institutions shorting GameStop stock were sitting on losses of about $19 billion as of Friday, new data shared exclusively with Insider indicates.

Figures from the data provider Ortex suggested that investors who had bet that the share price would fall had been massively squeezed, with losses topping $10 billion on Wednesday alone, when GameStop soared 135%”

https://v.redd.it/l1pa6yuvdhe61

lol

Ika
Dec 30, 2004
Pure insanity

spunkshui posted:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/market...21-1-1030020684

“Hedge funds and other institutions shorting GameStop stock were sitting on losses of about $19 billion as of Friday, new data shared exclusively with Insider indicates.

Figures from the data provider Ortex suggested that investors who had bet that the share price would fall had been massively squeezed, with losses topping $10 billion on Wednesday alone, when GameStop soared 135%”

https://v.redd.it/l1pa6yuvdhe61

lol

But its fairly likely that at least 18 of those 19 billion just went to other hedge funds / banks, and you bet they are gonna profit on the way down.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

itry posted:

Have you ever sold a .jpg on the Steam market?

Edit: A lot of this is computers sitting miliseconds-seconds ahead of you on the communication cables selling/buying according to complex algorithms, yeah.

I ran some program once that just fake-idled random Steam Games I owned in the background. On one hand, I easily made a few full-price new videogames worth of steambux. On the other, now I have no idea which games I've ever played or not. TYons of games I've never played and don't remember even acquiring that have 30 hours in it.

sweet thursday
Sep 16, 2012

Ika posted:

But its fairly likely that at least 18 of those 19 billion just went to other hedge funds / banks, and you bet they are gonna profit on the way down.

Long term it's going to redistribute wealth among the hedge funds until the whole system is overhauled(lol). But I guess this time the little guys do get to make money in the run-up. The ones holding the hot potato at the end are going to lose everything though

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

Arms_Akimbo posted:

Because bitcoin uses the electrical resources of a country the size of Ireland to create a financial cargo cult that just repeats the same old mistakes but in a more cartoon fashion. It is one of the biggest wastes of limited resources to play pretend banker. Also, the whole facilitates child porn and murder for hire thing.

I always thought it was because no where could ever let you "cash" out so you were essentially stuck buying:

1. a hit on someone
2. illegal firearms
3. access to child abuse sites
4. illegal drugs
5. stolen credit card data

and thats about all you can "buy"

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Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
That's HFTs, where algorithms are buying and selling at incredible speeds for penny shavings. It's basically the office space virus, except the accidental over accumulation of wealth was by design. The same core concepts still apply, the price of a stock is the last price it was sold at. What a stock is "worth" in terms of profitability and growth, that's a whole other thing. (i.e. WHY $300 is a bonkers price for GME) But the stock price is literally just the very last price the stock sold for

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