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The first 2 episodes are the best ones anyways, with 3 and 4 both having an excellent final 10 minutes and "meh" opening acts. E: horrible snipe. Ep 4 NEEDED to happen, if only because the sitcom trope was wearing thin by episode 3. I'm amazed the slow burn lasted as long as it did, and another episode of that would have overstayed its welcome.
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Edmund Lava posted:All the Marvel shows that have been announced are supposed to have these ridiculous budgets. I'm ready for this! 
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Jan 30, 2021 22:39
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Edmund Lava posted:All the Marvel shows that have been announced are supposed to have these ridiculous budgets. Was the crazy high budget idea before or after lockdowns started and it became clear theaters were gonna be among the hardest hit? I could see them pivoting to doing less films and more TV since they will be hamstrung at the box office for a while.
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swickles posted:Was the crazy high budget idea before or after lockdowns started and it became clear theaters were gonna be among the hardest hit? I could see them pivoting to doing less films and more TV since they will be hamstrung at the box office for a while. Wandavision began filming in November 2019, so before Covid 19 was discovered. It makes sense when you consider Disney’s real business: merchandising. Licensing fees for Marvel properties is in the tens of billions of dollars. The actual profits for the movies/tv shows is secondary to how much value they add to the brand. Disney wants people talking about Marvel, and that’s what they got. Same reason they won’t go the binge watching format. AoS added more to the brand by being a weekly show than any of the Netflix shows, hence the latter got dumped and the former got 2 more seasons. Disney would set fire to a pile of 250k cash while the Imperial March played of it meant 4% increased park attendance over 2019.
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Jan 30, 2021 23:01
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Edmund Lava posted:One of the most shocking parts of Wandavision is that Elizabeth Olsen can actually act. Watch Martha May Marcy Marlene immediately, your mistaken impression needs to be rectified immediately
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Jan 30, 2021 23:08
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Shageletic posted:Watch Martha May Marcy Marlene immediately, your mistaken impression needs to be rectified immediately I honestly thought she was one of the twins for the longest time
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Jan 30, 2021 23:40
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Edmund Lava posted:The source seem to be This article from Hollywood Reporter. They’re credible enough that several other outlets are taking it at face value. Cool, thanks!
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Jan 30, 2021 23:43
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sebmojo posted:I honestly thought she was one of the twins for the longest time Which one did you think she was?
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Jan 30, 2021 23:48
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Andrew Verse posted:Which one did you think she was? The speedster
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Edmund Lava posted:The actual profits for the movies/tv shows is secondary to how much value they add to the brand. In fairness, this is the name of the game for all the streaming services, since it’s really hard/impossible to sort out how many subscribers, for example, Bridgerton brings to Netflix.
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Andrew Verse posted:Which one did you think she was? The one on the left
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Edmund Lava posted:The speedster Good answer, as we all know, there's only one, moving back and forth really fast, creating an after-image, like the Flash.
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sebmojo posted:I honestly thought she was one of the twins for the longest time You're one up on me. It took me a while to put together the idea that she was their baby sister. Of course, I also assumed that the twins retired to whatever private continent they bought with that 90s Olsen Twins movie money.
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Jan 31, 2021 02:42
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I feel like there would be a lot less complaints if that 4th episode had been instead edited into the first 3. I liked them but I watch a lot of old sitcoms on channels like MeTV and AntennaTV and can see where someone who isn't familiar with what they were parodying would wonder what the hell they were watching. The Bewitched intro in the second one especially is really cool. Coming from that point of view the fourth episode actually seemed really out of place for me, but it was needed. They should've been cutting between the sitcom world and what we saw in the fourth episode the entire time. Like someone said earlier it's probably the way it is because the first three were sent out to critics and they wanted to avoid too many spoilers in those but in my opinion that's a stupid reason, just make the show the best it can be without worrying about spoilers. I don't care about spoilers and the people who really do can avoid them.
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Gaz-L posted:Good answer, as we all know, there's only one, moving back and forth really fast, creating an after-image, like the Flash. The Dualstar force
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Jan 31, 2021 03:57
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The World Inferno posted:Given the upcoming Dr.Strange movie is explicitly about the multi-verse, chance ain't bad! It kind of makes sense he is the only character to have two people portraying the same role at the same time due to the weird way X-Men and Avengers rights works. Spider-Man was the other choice but they're doing that in a different direction. Quicksilver also works because X-Men Quicksilver is 100% preferred over Avengers Quicksilver. Would also be a way to bring mutants into the MCU.
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Jan 31, 2021 04:41
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GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:I feel like there would be a lot less complaints if that 4th episode had been instead edited into the first 3. I liked them but I watch a lot of old sitcoms on channels like MeTV and AntennaTV and can see where someone who isn't familiar with what they were parodying would wonder what the hell they were watching. The Bewitched intro in the second one especially is really cool. Coming from that point of view the fourth episode actually seemed really out of place for me, but it was needed. They should've been cutting between the sitcom world and what we saw in the fourth episode the entire time. Like someone said earlier it's probably the way it is because the first three were sent out to critics and they wanted to avoid too many spoilers in those but in my opinion that's a stupid reason, just make the show the best it can be without worrying about spoilers. I don't care about spoilers and the people who really do can avoid them. They should have just aired episodes 1-3 in the first week. Would feel a lot more “complete” with it ending with the shift to wide screen and Monica getting punted.
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Jan 31, 2021 04:52
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Everyone posted:You're one up on me. It took me a while to put together the idea that she was their baby sister. Of course, I also assumed that the twins retired to whatever private continent they bought with that 90s Olsen Twins movie money. Huh I just remembered that Mary Kate Olsen was the one with Heath Ledger when he od'd, then I looked her up and she just divorced former french president Nicholas Sarkozy's half brother. Bizzare
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I think WandaVision is a meta commentary on mystery box shows, the kind that the internet likes to pick over, only with SWORD doing the analysis of the in-universe show. It was the whiteboard with all the theorycrafting on it that made it click for me, with them attempting to ascertain the meaning behind the hexagonal shapes during the title sequences, which is the kind of analysis you'd typically see in threads on here, reddit or whatever. Don't really agree with people saying that the first three episodes should have been integrated into the mainline narrative. Broadcasting them free from the context of the greater MCU lets the episodes of the in-universe show stand on their own as a distinct work, it's why episode 4 ends up hitting so hard; it's an entirely different show.
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GigaPeon posted:They should have just aired episodes 1-3 in the first week. Would feel a lot more “complete” with it ending with the shift to wide screen and Monica getting punted. Agreed 100 percent
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Jan 31, 2021 04:59
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Lid posted:It kind of makes sense he is the only character to have two people portraying the same role at the same time due to the weird way X-Men and Avengers rights works. Spider-Man was the other choice but they're doing that in a different direction. Quicksilver also works because X-Men Quicksilver is 100% preferred over Avengers Quicksilver. Would also be a way to bring mutants into the MCU. Non-show speculation: I could see Hulk dealing with some of this as well, since both the Norton and Ruffalo stories have pulled stuff from the Bana movie, discounting the obvious recasting stuff.
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I like how the aspect ratio has the bonus effect of making the sitcom parts feel extra closed in and more artificial.
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Klungar posted:Non-show speculation: I could see Hulk dealing with some of this as well, since both the Norton and Ruffalo stories have pulled stuff from the Bana movie, discounting the obvious recasting stuff. It's very clear that Incredible Hulk started out as a sequel to Ang Lees Hulk but got turned into an MCU vehicle later on.
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JazzFlight posted:Ehhh, but she's always had that color power and she got it from the mind stone. Power origin theories: My completely baseless theory about this is that all of the stones have a little bit of each others' powers in them in order to work together, like the cosmic equivalent of voltage converters or something. So Pietro got a tiny bit of Time power to accelerate himself, and Wanda got a tiny bit of Reality in addition to Mind to create her initial knockoff-Jean Grey package. Either her grief or something else has allowed her to tap into much more of that Reality power now. Geo Fixer posted:It's very clear that Incredible Hulk started out as a sequel to Ang Lees Hulk but got turned into an MCU vehicle later on. Yes, it literally starts where the previous one leaves off.
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Geo Fixer posted:It's very clear that Incredible Hulk started out as a sequel to Ang Lees Hulk but got turned into an MCU vehicle later on. The only reason its even considered an MCU film is because RDJ does a cameo as Stark in the closing credits.
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Thunderbolt Ross is in movies after Incredible Hulk. It's absolutely canon for more than just a cameo. It's just that everyone tends to forget about the movie itself.
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Banner references it in Avengers as well. "I broke Harlem" More importantly though, it was produced by Kevin Feige as the second movie in Marvel's initial foray into self-financed movie production, which is really the central definition of the MCU.
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Re Hulk, spoilered just in case Tim Roth is going to show up in the She-Hulk series.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:Re Hulk, spoilered just in case Tim Roth is going to show up in the She-Hulk series.
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Its Chocolate posted:oh yeah, she does have reality stone powers doesn't she. her magic's red, the stone is red. it changes the nature of reality just like the sitcom dimension does. I know her powers were derived from Mind, but she has a lot more in common with Reality, and Quicksilver's speed powers seem more Space related. So maybe experimenting on one stone taps into the powers of all of them.
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Eh, I think it'll just end up that Wanda is gonna be called a mutant and the experiments unlocked her and Pietro's powers.
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lol my dad is a total MCU hog, like has watched them all twice and watched Infinity War 3 times that I know of, and he told me even he almost quit on the first episode and didn't enjoy the second either. and I know for a fact he's been rewatching The Andy Griffith Show and The Saint on the family Prime. idk why this clicks with me, I guess I'm the real Marvel pig? the SWORD segments are making me feel sad about the red-head Agents of SHIELD ended up feeling like, I should really finish watching it some time. but lmao at just dropping it in as yet another stupidly named alphabet agency of nebulous jurisdiction and function that was apparently created right after Captain Marvel but had gone completely unmentioned until now. they could have just had it created after the Thanosing but for some reason felt it necessary to tie Monica to it nepotistically. it's not really SWORD without Abigail Brand anyways, but she was killed for shock value in Grant Ward's heel turn 
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Just finished watching all my favorite MCU content (Thor, Captain America, Spiderman, Xmen), but I have to ask: who is Ultron?
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I rewatched the first four videos with my parents and they enjoyed the sitcom segments a lot. They were pointing out all the little references and details and trying to figure out the decades of all the music for clues. For people who grew up through all these shows I think they're a special treat.
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Protagorean posted:lol my dad is a total MCU hog, like has watched them all twice and watched Infinity War 3 times that I know of, and he told me even he almost quit on the first episode and didn't enjoy the second either. and I know for a fact he's been rewatching The Andy Griffith Show and The Saint on the family Prime. idk why this clicks with me, I guess I'm the real Marvel pig? Victoria Hand was killed, not Abigail Brand. Seems to be a common mistake. I thought it was implied that SWORD was founded more recently? I'm also a bit confused that the name is specifically about sentient weapons when they are likely going to be a general SHIELD replacement going forwards.
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BurritoJustice posted:Victoria Hand was killed, not Abigail Brand. Seems to be a common mistake. Well, the SWORD Acting Director said that Monica's mom built the organization from the ground up, so I don't think it's a recent thing. Probably started in the late 90's after she found out about all the horrendous alien poo poo that exists in the galaxy. And at one point during the walk and talk at SWORD when he was explaining the different name to Monica (Sentient Weapons instead of Sentient World), he said the following: quote:Tyler Hayward: "Shifted away from manned missions and refocused on robotics, nanotech, A.I. Sentient Weapons, like it says on the door." After the Snap, they underwent a name change and started focusing more inward on nanotech, robots and AI rather than solely alien threats. SHIELD was founded in the 40's by Peggy Carter & Pals and SWORD existed alongside SHIELD for 20+ years, it would seem. And apparently, per the AoS writers room, they wanted to mention SWORD on the show, but Marvel Studios shut their request down. Gonz fucked around with this message at 11:08 on Jan 31, 2021 |
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BurritoJustice posted:Victoria Hand was killed, not Abigail Brand. Seems to be a common mistake. oh my god I don't know how they got mixed up so thoroughly in my head, they don't even look alike! I must have been pretty hosed up when I watched that episode, I think I even posted about the swerve in TVIV when it came out. christ lol Wiki says it was est. 1995, I'm guessing it was on a placard in the background or something, and I assume them picking up the X-Files tab could be a post-SHIELD collapse development. It may have had the original comics name too, Sentient World Observation and Response Division (yeah I know, blame Joss Whedon), and it was changed post-Snap to Sentient Weapons when they shifted from extraterrestrial stuff to AI and nanotech. Which would make sense if that had happened after the evil android tried to destroy the human race, instead of after the alien from outer space did  it feels dumber to me because I was of the mind that the studio had kept SWORD references out of Thor and Agents of SHIELD just so they'd have a backup for something like what happened in Winter Soldier, but this poo poo is just lazy
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Sector Corrector posted:Just finished watching all my favorite MCU content (Thor, Captain America, Spiderman, Xmen), but I have to ask: who is Ultron? Evil robot guy. Made by Hank Pym in the comics and Tony Stark in the films. I think Wanda and Quicksilver initially worked for him in the Age of Ultron film because they all hated Stark and then rebelled which was when Quicksilver was killed?
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Gonz posted:Well, the SWORD Acting Director said that Monica's mom built the organization from the ground up, so I don't think it's a recent thing. Monica also had a job there pre-blip, and was frustrated her old badge wasn't getting her in the door or past the security desk before the other guy vouched for her. They probably weren't a very big agency (in terms of people or pull) in her mom's time though.
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Gonz posted:Well, the SWORD Acting Director said that Monica's mom built the organization from the ground up, so I don't think it's a recent thing. Probably started in the late 90's after she found out about all the horrendous alien poo poo that exists in the galaxy. And at one point during the walk and talk at SWORD when he was explaining the different name to Monica (Sentient Weapons instead of Sentient World), he said the following: AoS did kinda get a dig at it into in season 5, when the team inexplicably find themselves on a space station and wonders aloud if S.H.I.E.L.D. has ever had a space-focused sister organization named S.P.E.A.R. or something similarly silly. Coulson denied it at the time.
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