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Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...
also if u groom lysithea u creepy

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Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

If you groom any of your students it is creepy.

Date Shamir, Catherine, Manuela, Seteth, or Jeritza only. Maybe Rhea but that has it's own giant pile of yikes.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...
no marrying hubert (especially gay marrying hubert) is okay

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Or Edelgard. A. She's the emperor. B. she's already massively into Byleth. C. Gay Adrestian rights.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

You should not encourage silly schoolgirl crushes. Edelgard should get over Byleth and marry Dorothea.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008
I see but also Edge of Dawn.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Hellioning posted:

You should not encourage silly schoolgirl crushes. Edelgard should get over Byleth and marry Dorothea.

No way, Byleth and El are a perfect match.

Also if you did that how would Dorothea become Queen of Brigid?

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Polyamory. Dorothea absolutely deserves going from homeless street orphan to Empress-Queen.

Cattail Prophet
Apr 12, 2014

The Eagles are truly the polycule house.

Prurient Squid
Jul 21, 2008

Tiddy cat Buddha improving your day.
What are you guys talking about? You can't marry people in a video game!

Rimusutera
Oct 17, 2014

Hellioning posted:

You should not encourage silly schoolgirl crushes. Edelgard should get over Byleth and marry Dorothea.

:hmmyes:

Digital Osmosis
Nov 10, 2002

Smile, Citizen! Happiness is Mandatory.

Clawtopsy posted:

no marrying hubert (especially gay marrying hubert) is okay

Wait, you can gay marry Hubert? Looking on the wiki it says he can't S-support with male Byleth... but his "married to Byleth" slide also uses suspiciously gender neutral language for both of them. Is it like, if you A-support him as a guy and never S-support anyone else?

if so, drat. Might have to pick between Revolutionary Princess Edelgard and Sinister Minister Hubert, that's a tough call.

Also Petra and Dorothea belong together and that's all there is to it, sorry.

Melomane Mallet
Oct 11, 2012

I'm bad; I'm just not born that way.

Digital Osmosis posted:

Wait, you can gay marry Hubert? Looking on the wiki it says he can't S-support with male Byleth... but his "married to Byleth" slide also uses suspiciously gender neutral language for both of them. Is it like, if you A-support him as a guy and never S-support anyone else?

if so, drat. Might have to pick between Revolutionary Princess Edelgard and Sinister Minister Hubert, that's a tough call.

Also Petra and Dorothea belong together and that's all there is to it, sorry.

Nah, Hubert has no explicit gay endings; just an implied one with Ferdinand.

Petra/Ashe is also super cute and i saw it first, so. :colbert:

hopeandjoy
Nov 28, 2014



Melomane Mallet posted:

Nah, Hubert has no explicit gay endings; just an implied one with Ferdinand.

Petra/Ashe is also super cute and i saw it first, so. :colbert:

That said, Hubert/Ferdinand is great.

Blackula Vs. Tarantula
Jul 6, 2005

😤I am NOT Captain_Redbeard🧔
I just started a maddening playthrough. There's a weapon triangle now? How does it work? How do bows and gauntlets fit in, and is there a magic circle also? How does that work? Googling only gives me articles about how there isn't a weapon triangle, and adding maddening to the search didn't reveal anything either.

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

That would be because there isn't a weapon triangle. Maddening doesn't change any mechanics besides exp gain, enemy strength, and reinforcements. Where did you even hear that

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Blackula Vs. Tarantula posted:

I just started a maddening playthrough. There's a weapon triangle now? How does it work? How do bows and gauntlets fit in, and is there a magic circle also? How does that work? Googling only gives me articles about how there isn't a weapon triangle, and adding maddening to the search didn't reveal anything either.

There still isn't a weapon triangle. Enemies on Maddening often have "Breaker" skills that sort of approximate the weapon triangle, though. Like an enemy with Spear Breaker is much harder to hit with a spear. You can check enemy skill lists to see when those skills are in play.

Blackula Vs. Tarantula
Jul 6, 2005

😤I am NOT Captain_Redbeard🧔
It just seemed like it was easier or harder to hit enemies when using the appropriate weapon but I guess there are just that many enemies with breaker skills. And since there's just one tomebreaker skill, that means there's no magic trinity. This explains why it seemed so inconsistent and why I couldn't find any info explaining it.

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

oh yeah breakers are one of the skills liberally spread around enemy classes. not everyone has them, it tends to be the weapon specialist classes like warrior, swordmaster, paladin etc.

WrightOfWay
Jul 24, 2010


Breakers are fairly common, but not really in the early game. Hit rates are generally pretty shaky on Maddening so get used to using a lot of combat arts.

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

and get hit +20 on everyone you possibly can

as a bonus archer is now one of the best early game classes possibly anyway so it putting all your physical units through it is doubly good

nrook
Jun 25, 2009

Just let yourself become a worthless person!
Even if you don’t want the archer class, give a bow to anyone with decent strength; they come in handy enough for this to be worthwhile. As it turns out, there’s a reason Fire Emblem doesn’t usually give every unit the power to use bows for free.

I actually really like how gambits play in Maddening; they’re powerful enough that you quickly learn who has good Charm and who doesn’t.

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.

Blackula Vs. Tarantula posted:

It just seemed like it was easier or harder to hit enemies when using the appropriate weapon but I guess there are just that many enemies with breaker skills. And since there's just one tomebreaker skill, that means there's no magic trinity. This explains why it seemed so inconsistent and why I couldn't find any info explaining it.

It's generally a combination of just general weapon traits (swords are accurate, axes are more powerful, etc.) and you likely have Sword Prowess on something on that unit that's maining a sword.

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

nrook posted:

I actually really like how gambits play in Maddening; they’re powerful enough that you quickly learn who has good Charm and who doesn’t.
this is why hit +20 is so good actually, because it for some reason also affects gambits, letting you cheese some hits with the trash-tier charm characters

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
everyone should be an archer because bows are rad cool.

Bluff Buster
Oct 26, 2011

Amppelix posted:

this is why hit +20 is so good actually, because it for some reason also affects gambits, letting you cheese some hits with the trash-tier charm characters

Whoa, I've played Maddening a bunch of times now and never knew this.

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.

Amppelix posted:

this is why hit +20 is so good actually, because it for some reason also affects gambits, letting you cheese some hits with the trash-tier charm characters

It's why Ignatz has bad Cha to offset his Personal and Authority boon, I guess?

Terper
Jun 26, 2012


Digital Osmosis posted:

I started this game a couple of days ago. I thought Gatekeeper was the best character in the game but I see now I was close but wrong. Hubert is the best character in the game. 90% of the time his supports are people thinking he's being sinister as gently caress when he's being a perfectly fine dude with resting murderer face and 10% of the time it's him being sinister as gently caress. I love it.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!

Hellioning posted:

If you groom any of your students it is creepy.

Date Shamir, Catherine, Manuela, Seteth, or Jeritza only. Maybe Rhea but that has it's own giant pile of yikes.

lol. Jeritza is the same age or even younger than most of your students. Hell, Byleth is younger than some of the students.

Deltasquid
Apr 10, 2013

awww...
you guys made me ink!


THUNDERDOME
Where do the ashen wolves fit in this? They're technically speaking not your students but random hobos who agree to help you with your classes, kind of like the faculty staff when you recruit them.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

AlternateNu posted:

lol. Jeritza is the same age or even younger than most of your students. Hell, Byleth is younger than some of the students.

Only Flayn is older. Byleth is around 25, closest student to that is Mercedes at 23.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
uh..... Byleth is 21.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!
Byleth is 21 at the beginning of the game.

Most of the students are 16 - 19. Exceptions are Mercedes (22), Lysithea (15), and Petra (15).

Jeritza is 21. Cyril is 14. Shamir is 25, and Catherine is 27.

Deltasquid posted:

Where do the ashen wolves fit in this? They're technically speaking not your students but random hobos who agree to help you with your classes, kind of like the faculty staff when you recruit them.

Yuri is 19. Balthus is 26. Constance is 18. Hapi is 20.

And, of course most everyone has a birthday pre-timeskip. So, they're all 6+ years older by the end of the game.

Edit: Also, Manuela is 34 and Hanneman is 51 which is waaaaaay farther apart than I originally thought. I thought Manuela was in her 40s. :psyduck:

AlternateNu fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Feb 3, 2021

Well Manicured Man
Aug 21, 2010

Well Manicured Mort
Byleth also doesn't actually know exactly how old they are, according to their support chain with Seteth, because as much as Jeralt loves his kid he's really cartoonishly inept at the whole fatherhood thing (on top of probably wanting to keep them as in the dark about their origins and the circumstances of their birth as possible due to grief about Sitri or fear of Rhea).

Prurient Squid
Jul 21, 2008

Tiddy cat Buddha improving your day.
OK, so I'm marrying Edelgard apparently lol. Which I interpret as meaning that I'll be adopting all the other Eagles as my children.

Yeah, Taitlean Fields was rough. I blundered through it at unnacceptable cost and quit without saving. Looks like I'll have to start thinking again. Maybe tight formations against one big unit at a time?

I'm glad to see that Rhea is absolutely just as much of an edgelord as Edelgard and I'm starting to think that she's literally the woman in the opening cutscene.

fakeedit: Rhea is Drama Girl from Fat Dog Mendoza

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
Check the movement ranges on the enemies on that map. The ones who can't move are the ones who will turn into big monsters; kill them as soon as you get close to them!

Prurient Squid
Jul 21, 2008

Tiddy cat Buddha improving your day.

Rimusutera
Oct 17, 2014

AlternateNu posted:

lol. Jeritza is the same age or even younger than most of your students. Hell, Byleth is younger than some of the students.

21 is not the same age or younger than 19, the second oldest student age. Relative to Mercedes who is 22 at start.

Rimusutera fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Feb 3, 2021

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!

Rimusutera posted:

21 is not the same age or younger than 19, the second oldest student age. Relative to Mercedes who is 22 at start.

Yeah. I thought he was 19 before I looked everyone up.

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Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
I think the low-key best Hubert moment is if you make him a dancer. It's just the one line, but I choose to read it as him just being completely baffled that people genuinely like him, and it makes him happy in a way he doesn't comprehend.

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