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3D Megadoodoo posted:Yeah the fat fucks love ogling dead crows. Walt wisely chose to leave that scene out of Dumbo.
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Alhazred posted:This is more or less what happened in Norway. In 1998 the church decided to digitize their records, but instead of copying the church books they copied the national government records and removed the people they assumed was not christian. Because they removed immigrants and children of immigrants this led to the king (who has head of the norwegian church) was removed from the church records (his grandparents were immigrants from Denmark). I've had to leave the norwegian church at least five loving times between 2000 and 2018 because they're a huge loving scam. They also added my newborn son to their registry in 2014, which was infuriating and I spent hours yelling at increasingly flustered and older church staff over the phone until they fixed it. gently caress me even typing this out gets me a lil mad.
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Members of the Church of Denmark pay a small tax. For some reason they had me registered as a member though both my parents had left the church before I was born and I was never baptized. When I noticed I had paid church tax on my paper route salary, I wrote the tax authorities to demand my restitution, but they wanted proof that I was not a church member. I wasn't sure how to prove a negative, so I told them I lived a heathen life and took the lord's name in vain. Got my 10 bucks 
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Carthag Tuek posted:they wanted proof that I was not a church member “Don’t make me go black metal.”
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Platystemon posted:“Don’t make me go black metal.” That would make you subject to a church burning tax
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And now you know why Paradox made Crusader Kings be like that
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Pretty sure I'm in the Swedish church due to being baptised, but they never bother me so I never bother them. At most I get a letter once in a while about their elections or some other slip of paper about what they're doing and that's it. There's probably some taxes too but I haven't exactly made all that money for the past couple of years anyway.
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Sucrose posted:We usually think of it as a bad thing, but I wonder if morbid fascination with death and especially violent death comes at least in part from a basic impulse to identify threats. Supposedly even crows will gather around and show a fascination with dead crows, and animal researchers theorize that they do this in order to observe how the other crow died and learn to avoid it. So would you say they conduct a... murder investigation? 
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Angry Salami posted:So would you say they conduct a... murder investigation? 
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Angry Salami posted:So would you say they conduct a... murder investigation? 
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In Iceland you automatically belong to whatever religious organization your mother belonged to when you were born. Which in most cases is the National Church which is why 62% of Icelanders are in the church despite maybe 20% of the nation (almost entirely old people) even giving a poo poo about the church. This is Helgi Hóseasson (1919-2009), poet, carpenter, socialist, and protestor,, at his usual post in Langholtsvegur in Reykjavík.  The sign reads "Burn you churches of the Ghost Crosshanger" Helgi was an ardent atheist and from 1962 he launched a lifelong personal crusade to have his baptism and confirmation annuled as he thought a contact entered into before he was old enough to understand it was illegitimate. When all legal avenues proved useless he turned to direct action. In 1966 he attended mass at the Reykjavík Cathedral but when the priest handed him the Eucharist he pulled out a concealed trash bag and stuffed the body of Christ into it before launching into a thunderous speech about the misanthropic nature of Christianity and how this act was a ritualised way of severing his ties with his baptism. As the mass was broadcast over the national radio his words reached people all around the country. However the state did not accept this as a legal act and Helgi remained baptised. In 1972 as members of Alþingi and the Bishop of Iceland were walking in procession from the cathedral to the Thing House Helgi ran by with a bucket full of skyr and threw it at them.     This was didn't sway the authorities and Helgi's baptism held fast. He was committed to a mental asylum but only for a bit. In 1982 Helgi was hired to build a new church in Breiðdalur in the eastern fjords of Iceland where he grew up and his brother served as priest. The old and defunct church, where Helgi had received his confirmation, mysteriously burned down. Helgi was suspected but never charged. In his spare time Helgi would often stand by Langholtsvegur, a residential street a stone's throw from his house, with protest signs. Sometimes protesting Christianity, sometimes Capitalism, and sometimes American foreign policy. Despite his numerous arrests he was never charged with any crime. Not even blasphemy which was illegal until 2015 and could land you in jail for up to three months. Helgi died in 2009, still baptised.  "Who created germs?"  "BLOOD: BUSI DÓRI DAVI" Refering to George W. Bush, Foreign Minister Halldór Ásgrímsson, and Prime Minister Davíð Oddsson who unilaterally decided to make Iceland one of the Coalition of the Willing in the Iraq War.  "1st of May" guess FreudianSlippers has a new favorite as of 17:26 on Feb 1, 2021 |
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Yeah that dude rocked and it's insane that he didn't get his baptism annulled.
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If a guy threw yoghurt at me I would've just done what he asked for. If only because I like my clothes without having yoghurt on them.
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Alhazred posted:In Norway we had something called "emergency baptism" which was done if it was uncertain weather or not the newborn would survive. When you performed an emergency baptism any form of liquid you could get your hands on was acceptable, even spit. One of my grand uncles was emergency baptized and he never forgave his parents for it (that branch of my family was deeply atheist). I spoke to my Priest and my dad, who went to seminary (quit just before Priesthood because he wanted kids) and neither have any problem with baptizing a person with anything. Even by a lay person. Just say the words. If you believe them, it's valid. I baptized my wife by licking my thumb, blessing the spit, touching her forehead with it, and saying the words. My dad baptized my daughters (not with spit, just blessed water). No harm as long as you believe what you do is right. My wife doesn't believe me, but my Priest says it's fine.
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mostlygray posted:I spoke to my Priest and my dad, who went to seminary (quit just before Priesthood because he wanted kids) and neither have any problem with baptizing a person with anything. Even by a lay person. Just say the words. If you believe them, it's valid. I baptized my wife by licking my thumb, blessing the spit, touching her forehead with it, and saying the words. My dad baptized my daughters (not with spit, just blessed water). I was going to say earlier that how much of an rear end in a top hat you'd have to be to hold a grudge against your wife for doing something that is basically hoping for a miracle for a newborn child that the doctors declare "unsurvivable" in the name of Atheism. The emergency baptism, even by the lay person, ensures that our records say "this baby was a person and he/she lived" instead of making a record saying "dead at birth". Atheism is a thing but that is just bad taste.
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Der Kyhe posted:I was going to say earlier that how much of an rear end in a top hat you'd have to be to hold a grudge against your wife for doing something that is basically hoping for a miracle for a newborn child that the doctors declare "unsurvivable" in the name of Atheism. The emergency baptism, even by the lay person, ensures that our records say "this baby was a person and he/she lived" instead of making a record saying "dead at birth". That branch of my family tree is basically CSPAM personified. Then again, my whole family tree is pretty atheist. When my grandmother died the priest was told to keep the god talk to an absolute minimum because my grandmother was at best agnostic. And when my grandfather died several family members kept silent during the parts of the hymns that mention god because they knew that he would've done the same. Alhazred has a new favorite as of 20:31 on Feb 1, 2021 |
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Alhazred posted:That branch of my family tree is basically CSPAM personified. Then again, my whole family tree is pretty atheist. When my grandmother died the priest was told to keep the god talk to an absolute minimum because my grandmother was at best agnostic. And when my grandfather died several family members kept silent during the parts of the hymns that mention god because they knew that he would've done the same. ...In that case why wouldn't you just go for a non-religious funeral? That seems a lot more sensible than going for a religious one and then skipping out on parts. Over here they're quite common, the family comes up with a programme of music and speeches and stuff together with the funeral director and they use the meeting room in the funeral home or at the side of the cemetery, and it's up to the family to decide if they want a priest involved or not. Actual church funeral services with hymn singing and all that are exceedingly rare here, only done by extremely devout families.
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Carbon dioxide posted:...In that case why wouldn't you just go for a non-religious funeral? That seems a lot more sensible than going for a religious one and then skipping out on parts. Because it's tradition. It might be tradition you disagree with but it's still the done thing.
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FreudianSlippers posted:In Iceland you automatically belong to whatever religious organization your mother belonged to when you were born. Which in most cases is the National Church which is why 62% of Icelanders are in the church despite maybe 20% of the nation (almost entirely old people) even giving a poo poo about the church. Maybe it's just me but this guy seems like a colossal rear end in a top hat rather than anything admirable
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Sometimes the world needs arseholes
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Basically. Gotta admire that moxie though.
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drrockso20 posted:Maybe it's just me but this guy seems like a colossal rear end in a top hat rather than anything admirable so? who gives a gently caress what you think
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Peanut President posted:so? who gives a gently caress what you think Man what crawled up your rear end in a top hat and died?
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drrockso20 posted:Man what crawled up your rear end in a top hat and died? And more importantly, was it baptized?
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I wish skyr was plentiful enough here that I could spare a bucket of it. Edit: thank you for reminding me I have some in my fridge right now.
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xpost from yospos terrible wikipedia thread:awesomeolion posted:In 1901, the federal government planted over 80,000 trees in an attempt to stabilize the soil; all died. Reminds me of the coastline around my hometown, which was for centuries plagued by hiking dunes. It must have begun in the middle ages, cause there are sources back to the early 1500s that refer to earlier problems. Possibly the reason was that the coast was one of the few areas that the serfs could let their sheep and cattle graze freely, which soon loosened the dirt, which then blew away. If I understand the phenomenon correctly, it was basically like the American dust bowl, but coastal. Anyway, several attempts were made to curb it. A major one was the hiring of a German who built fences and planted trees along part of the coastline. Christian VI had a monument put up in his name in 1738, and part of that area remains publicly accessible to this day. In another town further down the coast, the lighthouse keeper was put in charge in the early mid 1800s. I've seen his journal, it's pretty funny: he hired the young girls to plant both coniferous and deciduous trees on the coast, but for some reason many of them were repeatedly pulled up overnight. It turned out that some young boys felt scorned by the "girly foolery" on the beach. Eventually, they did manage to overcome the lovely boys though, and we have a pretty dece coastline now.
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I just learned that Pandora’s Box wasn’t actually a box. It was a large storage jar ancient Greeks used for wine or grain. Erasmus of Rotterdam mistranslated the Greek “pithos” into the Latin “pyxis” back in the 16th century and it stuck.
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https://twitter.com/kalinah/status/1357775062758273026?s=20 if you come at the master farter, you better not miss
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Something I was reminded today of, which may fit the bill as a historical fun fact, or at least a curious bit of trivia. During the Spanish Civil War, the Italians supported the fascist side with both men and equipment. They were really well equipped, at least when compared to the Spanish fascist army (which actually did have some German equipment; Spanish republicans were even worse off). Spain was at the time a rather poor country with a lacking industry, while Italy was riding the high of fascist industrialism. So the relatively modern trucks and weapons the Italian army employed became a point of attention amongst combatants of both sides. Apparently, the other thing Italian generals became famous for was their bravado. That must have been a tad grating to the Spanish, seeing that when the Italians were handled a really bad defeat at Guadalajara, by an inferior Republican army, that stopped short their attempt to take Madrid, Spanish soldiers from their own fascist side would sing this (roughly translated) to the recovering Italian soldiers, set to the tune of the black shirts hymn: "Guadalajara is not Abisinia Here the Reds (republican army) shoot bombs like pinecones Less words and more courage Cos some Italians found themselves at Badajoz" (which is to say, at like 500 km of where the battle actually took place) Another famous phrase of the time, also from the Spanish fascist side, said this: "Italians: the Reds, even if Reds, are Spanish. Less trucks, and more balls" And someone else still suggested adding an additional phrase to the insign of one of the beaten regiments. They had, amongst their titles, that of "Vincitori di Malaga" ("Malaga winners") indicating that they were amongst the divisions that participated in the successfull conquest of the Andalusian city a year back. The suggested phrase? "Culipatrás di Guadalajara" (roughly, and in false Italian, "Retreating asses of Guadalajara") Shellception has a new favorite as of 22:50 on Feb 6, 2021 |
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The talk of emergency baptisms reminded me of Edgardo Mortara, whose emergency baptism led to an international incident. Mortara was born to a Jewish family in Bologna (part of the Papal States before the unification of Italy) in 1851. In 1858, word had gotten to the Inquisition that Mortara had been secretly baptized by a Catholic employee of his parents, and he was removed from his family by the police, since it was illegal for a Catholic to be raised by non-Catholics in the Papal States. This led to a court case by his parents and the embarrassment, internationally, of the Papal States, which were seen as a an anachronism in modern Italy. Unfortunately, this story does not have a happy ending. The Mortaras lost their court case and Edgardo converted to Catholicism, never returning to his family. He was smuggled out of Italy during the wars of unification, and ordained as a priest as an adult. He died in 1940, apparently never wavering from his Catholic faith.
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Hell of a prank to pull on an employer you hate. Curse their child to a lifetime of catholicism with a quick baptism.
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Gargamel Gibson posted:Hell of a prank to pull on an employer you hate. Curse their child to a lifetime of catholicism with a quick baptism. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_for_the_dead Or Mormonism. They just sit in their basement proxy baptizing
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Proxy baptizing Adolf Hitler in London on 10 December 1993.
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Notable Mormons* Anne Frank Albert Einstein Adolf Hitler *Posthumous
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Baptizing the dead is the logical conclusion of proselytizing scoreboards and not at all unlike barely ritualized baptism of new borns with your spit, telling your army "psyche" after fording a river, or state church enrollment if you're standing on the outside of the while thing. Questionable consent the entire way down.
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