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Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
Was the real bad experience “drinking baijiu”?

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hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Ugly In The Morning posted:

Was the real bad experience “drinking baijiu”?

no it was drinking baijiu and taking some weird obsolete OTC muscle relaxant from a Chinese pharmacy

drinking baijiu was good before that

very early in my china adventures I would mix baijiu with orange fanta which 'sort of helped' but also not really.

I even got to drink home made baijiu at my buddy's farmhouse out in the country that his dad made, it was pretttty rough but I downed a whole tumbler of it and earned his father's respect.

I had a close friend who loved baijiu, she would drink coffee mugs of it when we had parties and she ended up dying in china :(

I have a bottle of 'decent' baijiu i found at an asian grocery store here years ago and every now and then maybe once a year i'll have a sip for old times sake.

Smell is supposed to be the strongest memory trigger and dang if it doesnt bring me right back because god drat it smells like poo poo. For about six hours after.

hakimashou fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Feb 1, 2021

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

hakimashou posted:

I had a close friend who loved baijiu, she would drink coffee mugs of it when we had parties and she ended up dying in china :(

drat, the baijiu got her.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Taiwanese made Kaoliang, which is a lighter aroma style of Baiju, is real good and what I take to parties

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

kaoliang still sucks and whenever I see people drinking it, they look sad

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Blistex posted:

It's going to be like an episode of 1990's era Law and Order. They show up, start asking questions, and inexplicably a New York Wuhan dock worker (who is moving boxes by hand a distance of only 8') tells them he remembers seeing Li Wen giving a Pangolin oral behind a dumpster.

The team shows up at the dumpster to look for any evidence that might have survived and just as they are setting up a man with a Pangolin starts walking down the alley. He sees the team, drops the Pangolin, and runs.

They take Li Wen back to the local WHO lab and confirm his identity. By luck, there were two separate business CCTV cameras that caught the Pangolin suckfest and still had the footage from a year ago. DNA sequencing proves that Wen was patient zero and receipts in his wallet showed that he travelled extensively the week after contracting the flu. The icing on the cake is Wen giving a full confession and leading the team to where he buried the Pangolin body.

The team takes this info to the local government and are promptly taken to a museum that explains that the virus was a result of inter-species breeding experiments at Ft. Bragg in the US. The purpose was to create the perfect politician (photo of Obama) but it also released the "US Flu" which made it to China on some frozen Toaster Strudels being shipped to Wuhan. The team are then driven directly to the airport and deported.

:doink:

Vesi
Jan 12, 2005

pikachu looking at?

Blistex posted:

It's going to be like an episode of 1990's era Law and Order. They show up, start asking questions, and inexplicably a New York Wuhan dock worker (who is moving boxes by hand a distance of only 8') tells them he remembers seeing Li Wen giving a Pangolin oral behind a dumpster.

The team shows up at the dumpster to look for any evidence that might have survived and just as they are setting up a man with a Pangolin starts walking down the alley. He sees the team, drops the Pangolin, and runs.

They take Li Wen back to the local WHO lab and confirm his identity. By luck, there were two separate business CCTV cameras that caught the Pangolin suckfest and still had the footage from a year ago. DNA sequencing proves that Wen was patient zero and receipts in his wallet showed that he travelled extensively the week after contracting the flu. The icing on the cake is Wen giving a full confession and leading the team to where he buried the Pangolin body.

The team takes this info to the local government and are promptly taken to a museum that explains that the virus was a result of inter-species breeding experiments at Ft. Bragg in the US. The purpose was to create the perfect politician (photo of Obama) but it also released the "US Flu" which made it to China on some frozen Toaster Strudels being shipped to Wuhan. The team are then driven directly to the airport and deported.

:shittypop:

Trash Ops
Jun 19, 2012

im having fun, isnt everyone else?

i fuckin love baiju and my friends dad used to get gifted maotai on the reg from his chinese grad students so he just would give it to me :getin:

thank you mao for solidifying the legacy of the finest liquor ive had outside of central europe

Bright Bart
Apr 27, 2020

False. There is only one electron and it has never stopped
Excellent post but excuse me they don't get deported they are told they probably miss home and conveniently brought to their airport with guards for the own protection. (China safe but there are foreign criminals.) "Never come back" is a mistranslation although now that you've hurt feelings you cannot come back.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
:pusheen:

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

GoutPatrol posted:

kaoliang still sucks and whenever I see people drinking it, they look sad

I brought a bottle from Taiwan and it's still unopened. Because I'd have to be drinking it alone and it would make me sad too.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
Is kaoliang gaoliangjiu? Sorghum hooch? That poo poo is rank I’d rather drink baijiu

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
that entire category is sorghum, incl baiju itself

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

bob dobbs is dead posted:

that entire category is sorghum, incl baiju itself

Nah real baijiu is made from assorted agricultural waste and sewage runoff that they ferment in big tin barrels in the sun then distill over burning rotten trash to give it the special terroir like how Isley malts are just smokey since they burn smokey peat

Bright Bart
Apr 27, 2020

False. There is only one electron and it has never stopped
Unironically want to see a contest where you compete to use the trashiest materials and process to win a taste test.

Oh this? Yeah we put cardboard to soak in the vat. The ingredients? How should I know I just cleared the discount bakery shelves.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
I'll put up with a lot of bullshit but I will not hear of anyone speaking ill of Kaoliang.

P-Mack
Nov 10, 2007

Grand Fromage posted:

Ming River is the only widely sold one in the US that I'm aware of. It's supposedly pretty decent for baijiu, but I'm not going to investigate personally.

It's terrible if you compare it to like anything else but very good for baijiu yeah. Tastes like nail polish remover, instead of liquid pain.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Bright Bart posted:

Unironically want to see a contest where you compete to use the trashiest materials and process to win a taste test.

Oh this? Yeah we put cardboard to soak in the vat. The ingredients? How should I know I just cleared the discount bakery shelves.

50 passes through a Brita Filter later and it tastes better than top-shelf.

Zushio
May 8, 2008
One of my friends brought out a bottle of Baiju one time when some of our group (90% pasty white boys) was over at his house to play Smash Brothers. We were all around 20 and I was pretty much the only person who had ever been truely drunk, having already acquired a taste for rye, gin, and bourbon.

Our friend dared us all to take a shot. One person person couldn't suppress his gag reflex long enough to drink it, the other took a tiny taste and did a spit take before refusing the rest, a third got it down but immediately ran to the washroom and threw up violently. At this point our host, barely containing his laughter, took his shot, grimaced slightly and passed me mine. I will admit that I was nervous at this point but I figured what was the worst that could happen and took the shot. It honestly burned on the way down in a way that I had never experienced prior and have not since. Thankfully I only coughed a little bit and managed to impress my host who kindly offered me a second shot. Which I accepted, but turned down the third one in what was described to me as a sounding like wheezy cartoon voice when someone eats a hot pepper.

I definitely had a bit of a buzz and Smash Brothers was pretty entertaining at that point, but I wouldn't describe myself as drunk. I've also had it a few times over the years and it never burned quite as much so I'm not sure if that's a sign of quality or not. I am reasonably certain the bottle he had listed it's alcohol by volume at 60% so that probably explains it since the other brands I've had were only around 40% to 50%.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


40% ain't baijiu, that's bullshit. The lowest I've ever seen was 52, 60 is normal.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
In Taiwan, the major brands stocked at 7-11 sell 58% and 38% varieties. I'm pretty sure the 38% is for day drinking.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Real Baiju should be strong enough to make you able to eat Beijing breakfast

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Bright Bart posted:

Unironically want to see a contest where you compete to use the trashiest materials and process to win a taste test.

Oh this? Yeah we put cardboard to soak in the vat. The ingredients? How should I know I just cleared the discount bakery shelves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-mWK_kcZMs

Zushio
May 8, 2008

Barudak posted:

Real Baiju should be strong enough to make you able to eat Beijing breakfast

I am not even sure I am brave enough to figure out what that is but I assume it involves gutter oil.

yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle

Zushio posted:

I am not even sure I am brave enough to figure out what that is but I assume it involves gutter oil.

AFAIK its a Jian Bing, which I quite like, but I don't load them up with weird sausages and whatnot.

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme
The sausages are garbage, but the mystery meat you get from the street carts is good

Nam Taf
Jun 25, 2005

I am Fat Man, hear me roar!


My worst baijiu experience was on this stuff. The timestamps between the this photo from the start of the business dinner and the photo of me having 5 empty bottles in front of me is about 2.5 hours. Would not recommend. I'm glad there was a toilet ensuite off the dinner room. I probably came out with a mild level of permanent brain and/or organ damage from consuming it.

I'm a baijiu business dinner newbie in the scheme of things, but my tactic is to use snow beer or some other basic lovely lager to help wash out the flavour. It's functionally close enough to water when it comes to adding additional booze to the night, but it's got flavour unlike water so it helps mask the hellscape that is your taste buds after that horror.

Nam Taf fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Feb 2, 2021

Barudak
May 7, 2007

yaffle posted:

AFAIK its a Jian Bing, which I quite like, but I don't load them up with weird sausages and whatnot.

Nah I was thinking of 豆汁儿 /Douzhi which isdrinking fermented mung beam juice and pretending its soup. Every "true beijinger" is so proud of it but you'll note they all started eating other regions breakfast food but nobody outside of beijing eats that garbage for breakfast.

God I want some rouganmian right now

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
baiju mixers in increasing hopelessness order:

1. lemonade. almost decent
2. pineapple juice
3. lemon lime sodas
4. coca cola
5. cream (milk will give you a cement mixer, basically)
6. amari
7. coconut milk
8. margarita mix. lime juice is great but triple sec and baiju do not mix well

never gonna happen w the typical 50yo balding man crowd who actually go hard on the stuff but if you're willing its possible

bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 10:53 on Feb 2, 2021

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
A shot of kaoliang with a Taiwan Classic beer chaser was quite enjoyable. I couldn't really drink Taiwan Classic any other way. The old tile layer I would drink with would mix his (and this my) kaoliang with tea. It was drinkable.

RocknRollaAyatollah
Nov 26, 2008

Lipstick Apathy
I went to a wedding once where the father of the bride was a major baijiu distributer and every table at 600+ yuan bottles of baijiu. There's not much difference between 6 yuan and 600 yuan baijiu except some slight smoothness. This was the opposite to another wedding I went to, a shotgun wedding, where the lazy Susan had a cigarette plate. Chinese weddings own.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Chinese weddings are top notch and unlike American ones Im usually excited if we can go to one when Im visiting family in mainland. Why yes Id like free lunch and some booze in exchange for like 10 minutes tops of pretending to pay attention.

RocknRollaAyatollah
Nov 26, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Barudak posted:

Chinese weddings are top notch and unlike American ones Im usually excited if we can go to one when Im visiting family in mainland. Why yes Id like free lunch and some booze in exchange for like 10 minutes tops of pretending to pay attention.

The fancy one had an electric violin performance and the MC was a local TV host. It's like a game show and wedding reception in one.

SerCypher
May 10, 2006

Gay baby jail...? What the hell?

I really don't like the sound of that...
Fun Shoe

Nam Taf posted:


My worst baijiu experience was on this stuff. The timestamps between the this photo from the start of the business dinner and the photo of me having 5 empty bottles in front of me is about 2.5 hours. Would not recommend. I'm glad there was a toilet ensuite off the dinner room. I probably came out with a mild level of permanent brain and/or organ damage from consuming it.

I'm a baijiu business dinner newbie in the scheme of things, but my tactic is to use snow beer or some other basic lovely lager to help wash out the flavour. It's functionally close enough to water when it comes to adding additional booze to the night, but it's got flavour unlike water so it helps mask the hellscape that is your taste buds after that horror.

I like all the elaborate anti counterfeiting stuff all non-cheap baiju has on it. I don't how else you'd tell cheap stuff from expensive stuff as it all tastes like poo poo (I love baiju).

This bottle of Wulangye my FIL gave me has like 7 different seals and an RFID tag that you can check with some sort of app. It probably costs around 1000 RMB a bottle, but it really doesn't taste functionally different from Red Star Erguotou (which is like 20 RMB a bottle). Especially not after the first shot.


If you're going to buy baiju just get Red Star, only drink expensive stuff if you get it for a present. Or just keep it on your shelf because it looks cool. It all fundamentally tastes the same (bad). Like others in the thread it is a guilty pleasure when you want to drink self destructively.

SerCypher fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Feb 2, 2021

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Ars Technica did a deep dive on the newly released beta of HarmonyOS, Huawei's new OS intended to replace Android

It's literally an Android clone

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Also props to that article for linking me to an analysis on China's domestically produced CPU benchmarks, where I learned that if you're using a Chinese CPU and want to play Civ VI, you'll be waiting 15 minutes per turn in an average lategame (the manufacturer wants 1000 bucks for the system)

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Fojar38 posted:

Ars Technica did a deep dive on the newly released beta of HarmonyOS, Huawei's new OS intended to replace Android

It's literally an Android clone

I like how they require a photo of your passport and credit card in order to access the SDK. You can just download Android's.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

McGavin posted:

I like how they require a photo of your passport and credit card in order to access the SDK. You can just download Android's.
I wonder if they're trying to deter the NSA or Google lawyers?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I suspect that the NSA or any government intelligence agency could probably come up with fake documentation if they really, really wanted a piece the oh-so-valuable Android fork

We're going to get a situation where the NSA inflitrates Chinese networks by slipping a backdoor into an Android build and letting the Chinese copy it

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MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

Fojar38 posted:

Ars Technica did a deep dive on the newly released beta of HarmonyOS, Huawei's new OS intended to replace Android

It's literally an Android clone

It was mentioned when they announced it, just another clone like Amazon's Kindle, to avoid Google licensing. Just like the China homegrown CPU, it's homegrown with Chinese characteristics (TM).

https://new.qq.com/omn/20190819/20190819A0H6JI00.html
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15446/zhaoxins-x86compatible-cpus-for-diy-enthusiasts-now-available

MrMoo fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Feb 3, 2021

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