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Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Kestral posted:

I'd be grateful to know what companies / organizations have this policy, especially in the Sacramento area. I've been digging around for a place that will do this for a while now, but none of the facilities I've spoken with will admit to giving out unclaimed doses, and are claiming 100% takeup rates - which is ridiculous, obviously, but I understand why they're not admitting to having doses going to waste to some rando on the phone.

I don’t think it’s official at all, just people on the scene literally pulling an audible to not let vaccine go to waste.

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Kestral
Nov 24, 2000

Forum Veteran

Class Warcraft posted:

I don’t think it’s official at all, just people on the scene literally pulling an audible to not let vaccine go to waste.

That checks out. I suppose now I need to weigh the benefits of getting vaccinated in a timely fashion against the risk of getting infected by going all over town to areas where sick people congregate. It'd be easier to go with the flow if I could at least get into an online queue or something, but the total radio silence other than "Some Time Later" is maddening.

punchbuggy
Feb 16, 2011
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Clapping Larry

Tayter Swift posted:

My 80-year-old grandmother is waiting for Kaiser in Sac county as well and hasn't heard jack. She survived the bombing of Tokyo and--- wait why do I get the feeling they know each other. Your mom wouldn't happen to have a thing for bowling would she?

Uh, yes. She had to stop bowling due to arthritis in her right thumb. Yes, they probably know each other.

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug

punchbuggy posted:

Uh, yes. She had to stop bowling due to arthritis in her right thumb. Yes, they probably know each other.

Yeaaaahhhh pretty good chance they were in a league together. McClellan, Mardi Gras and Fireside I imagine. That's a pretty hilarious coincidence.

And it's not the first time it's happened to me. When my dog was a young'n we'd go to the dog park every evening, and at some point an older Japanese woman started taking her puppy Prince. She had this.... I dunno air about her that really made me think she hung out with my grandmother. Sure enough, one day she comes up to me and says "I bowl with your grandma!" Figures.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




eSporks posted:

Yea... Not my experience.
They refused to diagnose my PCL tear and left me partially crippled for 2 years. When I switched to sutter the surgeon laughed at how bad the kaiser MRI was.

And I had a Sutter doctor write a specialist to say that I was a hypochondriac and didn't need any help. YMMV with any system, both of these employ a lot of doctors and you might draw a dud, have one who makes a mistake, or you get the guy who says "I have better drugs than <doctor I saw three days ago> does."

He did.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Diane Feinstein has a massive stroke and turns to jelly in front of a CSPAN audience.

It's Arnold vs Newsom for her seat.

Who do you vote for?

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
arnold cares more about climate change than newsom

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


FilthyImp posted:

Diane Feinstein has a massive stroke and turns to jelly in front of a CSPAN audience.

It's Arnold vs Newsom for her seat.

Who do you vote for?

gloria la riva

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

FilthyImp posted:

Diane Feinstein has a massive stroke and turns to jelly in front of a CSPAN audience.

It's Arnold vs Newsom for her seat.

Who do you vote for?

Newsom, easily.

They're both going to just vote the mainstream of their parties, and Governator loses the DEM majority.

Newsom sucks but it's not even really a question

TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”

FilthyImp posted:

Diane Feinstein has a massive stroke and turns to jelly in front of a CSPAN audience.

It's Arnold vs Newsom for her seat.

Who do you vote for?

I mean, unless the stroke kills or incapacitates her, I still don't see her leaving that seat so, work on that part of the hypothetical.


Comedy option: Newsom appoints Boxer as a caretaker and she decides to try to run for re-election.


In all seriousness, Gavin, because replacing him as governor with a progressive option seems a bit more likely to me than trying to get a senator who would be any further to the left than him.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

I mean Newsom has really bungled the later half of this COVID response but the first half seemed pretty decent and everything else he's been on "good" to "meh" so yeah, no GOP please.

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



FilthyImp posted:

Diane Feinstein has a massive stroke and turns to jelly in front of a CSPAN audience.

It's Arnold vs Newsom for her seat.

Who do you vote for?


She runs for reelection and wins anyways.

Anyone who suggests that maybe she shouldn't be in the senate with her brain dripping out of her ears is scolded for hating the oldest woman senator.

CopperHound
Feb 14, 2012

jetz0r posted:

She runs for reelection and wins anyways.

Anyone who suggests that maybe she shouldn't be in the senate with her brain dripping out of her ears is scolded for hating the oldest woman senator.
I want off this ride.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



a few days late to recall chat but id put money on chamath palihapitiya becoming the next republican governor of california before the rock

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
The Senate would actually be a really good landing place for Gavin, but the problem is he has always wanted more than that. The whole problem is that he wants to lead and he’s a lovely leader. Not every politician is a leader, but he likes executive privileges and any office where you travel in a caravan of vehicles with tinted Windows.

I remember when he was Mayor and he had some secured vehicle double parked outside City Hall. The SF Mayor doesn’t need a Secret Service lookalike car, but he had one and parked it illegally because he’s better than you.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Mitsuo posted:

Yeah, IIRC Kaiser mental health services are so severely understaffed that the mental health professionals went on strike multiple times to protest. There were cases of people having to wait two months between appointments and getting pressure to have very short appointments too. They've gotten fined by state regulators before for having such poor access.

Again, this surprises me because my Kaiser therapist and psychiatrist have been excellent and I've never had major trouble getting an appointment.

Like I said, I'm not claiming you're wrong. I wonder if I just lucked out or it's a regional thing and Kaiser in San Diego has better quality of care than most.

Celexi
Nov 25, 2006

Slava Ukraini!
Kaiser misdiagnosed my grandmother in-law cancer as "just some pain don't worry" in various x-rays and ct scans. Only when it got too bad and was discovered on another place as having spread to whole body they decided to... send her to another hospital.
She died, and they been trying to stop my in-law parents from suing because of "binding arbitration" even though it doesn't apply to them as the one dead was the one that signed the binding arbitration.

Celexi fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Feb 2, 2021

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

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If anyone with Kaiser does end up testing positive for covid, make sure you ask for their covid kit if they don't offer it to you. They'll send you a big box full of masks and sanitation supplies.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

My wife's mother is an RN at Kaiser. She has told me that if someone calls out sick they are not replaced for that shift.

Weird poo poo

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

My wife's mother is an RN at Kaiser. She has told me that if someone calls out sick they are not replaced for that shift.

Weird poo poo

American healthcare is hosed? Big if true

Celexi
Nov 25, 2006

Slava Ukraini!

Centrist Committee posted:

American healthcare is hosed? Big if true

yeah, I don't know why people glorify Kaiser as amazing.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

DeadFatDuckFat posted:

If anyone with Kaiser does end up testing positive for covid, make sure you ask for their covid kit if they don't offer it to you. They'll send you a big box full of masks and sanitation supplies.

Hell yeah, we got this and it owns, especially the disposable silverware and plates and stuff. I got it 2 days after my positive diagnosis. They sent so much stuff that I ended up giving away the stuff we didn't use to our daycare.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Celexi posted:

yeah, I don't know why people glorify Kaiser as amazing.

I worked in healthcare for about a decade and I can't think of any provider that treat their patients with more contempt than Kaiser does. They're like the DMV of healthcare.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Class Warcraft posted:

I worked in healthcare for about a decade and I can't think of any provider that treat their patients with more contempt than Kaiser does. They're like the DMV of healthcare.

My dead sister would agree with you.

droll
Jan 9, 2020

by Azathoth

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Again, this surprises me because my Kaiser therapist and psychiatrist have been excellent and I've never had major trouble getting an appointment.

You got a Kaiser therapist? I was initially told to come in to talk to someone in a Kaiser building, got told my drinking was OK and sent on my way. Asked again a couple years later and was given 'approval' to just start reaching out to random therapists I could find on the internet and find out if they accepted this other insurance company that Kaiser was somehow 'sub insuring' through? Kaiser > other insurance > find your own therapist. It went spectacularly well calling 50 therapists and getting zero calls back.

Norcal and Socal Kaiser seem like 2 different beasts from my experience.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

jetz0r posted:

She runs for reelection and wins anyways.

Anyone who suggests that maybe she shouldn't be in the senate with her brain dripping out of her ears is scolded for hating the oldest woman senator.
Thank you, this was the correct answer.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

droll posted:

You got a Kaiser therapist? I was initially told to come in to talk to someone in a Kaiser building, got told my drinking was OK and sent on my way. Asked again a couple years later and was given 'approval' to just start reaching out to random therapists I could find on the internet and find out if they accepted this other insurance company that Kaiser was somehow 'sub insuring' through? Kaiser > other insurance > find your own therapist. It went spectacularly well calling 50 therapists and getting zero calls back.

Norcal and Socal Kaiser seem like 2 different beasts from my experience.

Yeah, I made an appointment to see a therapist when I moved back to San Diego five or six years ago and I've been going to appointments at his office ever since. Bing bang so simple.

I've had nothing but good luck with Kaiser doctors of all sorts, so hearing these stories is making me really, really, confused. Like, am I getting special treatment somehow to pad their numbers or just by mistake or what the gently caress? I swear on my hatred of Feinstein that I'm not a shill.

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

When I tried to get a therapist through Kaiser I got an initial screening appointment pretty quickly, but trying to get a regular scheduled appointment after that resulted in six months of run around before I gave up.

But when I broke my finger I got a bunch of follow-ups and physical therapy no problem. Seems to be luck of the draw, mostly.

Hawkperson
Jun 20, 2003

Kaiser has the best trans healthcare because apparently one of their higher-ups came out a few years ago and whoops, suddenly they started caring a bunch about the quality of their services to that demographic

Kaiser behavioral health is a whole nother beast though. I had one appointment with a Kaiser therapist that was ah, not loving helpful and I will never go back.

Also my answer to the Feinstein hypothetical is that I groan loudly and throw things in the general direction of the California electorate

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.

Hawkperson posted:


Also my answer to the Feinstein hypothetical is that I groan loudly and throw things in the general direction of the California electorate
Hey! Quit that, you'll start a fire!

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


CPColin posted:

Hey! Quit that, you'll start a fire!

No worries, it'll just be consumed by the one that's already going

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.

Cup Runneth Over posted:

No worries, it'll just be consumed by the one that's already going

No that just make a bigger fire!

Aeka 2.0
Nov 16, 2000

:ohdear: Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.




Dinosaur Gum
Is changing your primary hard with Kaiser? I have kaiser and really haven't had to do that. But I have a friend who desperately needs to change their primary (not Kaiser. It is medi-cal, cal-optima) and the only way they will change her primary is if they change ALL of her specialists that she needs, including her therapist. Would this happen on the kaiser model?

xcheopis
Jul 23, 2003


Aeka 2.0 posted:

Is changing your primary hard with Kaiser? I have kaiser and really haven't had to do that. But I have a friend who desperately needs to change their primary (not Kaiser. It is medi-cal, cal-optima) and the only way they will change her primary is if they change ALL of her specialists that she needs, including her therapist. Would this happen on the kaiser model?

It didn't for me.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Aeka 2.0 posted:

Is changing your primary hard with Kaiser? I have kaiser and really haven't had to do that. But I have a friend who desperately needs to change their primary (not Kaiser. It is medi-cal, cal-optima) and the only way they will change her primary is if they change ALL of her specialists that she needs, including her therapist. Would this happen on the kaiser model?

You go on the website and you select a new one.

Kestral
Nov 24, 2000

Forum Veteran
My sole experience - thankfully secondhand - with Kaiser was a high school friend getting fed incredibly strong pot brownies without his knowledge, so he ate a shitload of them before realizing what they contained. He got Way Too High and someone called him an ambulance, which he expressly refused before they arrived, after they'd arrived, while they were carting him into the ambulance as he feebly struggled and protested, and during his overnight stay at the hospital after they called the cops. He was on his parents' Kaiser insurance for this. Coverage was refused for nearly everything, and he was still helping his parents pay off those bills a decade later.

Kaiser: Not Even Once.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
How the gently caress do you eat a pot brownie without smelling or tasting the pot? :psyduck:

Kenning
Jan 11, 2009

I really want to post goatse. Instead I only have these🍄.



Aeka 2.0 posted:

Is changing your primary hard with Kaiser? I have kaiser and really haven't had to do that. But I have a friend who desperately needs to change their primary (not Kaiser. It is medi-cal, cal-optima) and the only way they will change her primary is if they change ALL of her specialists that she needs, including her therapist. Would this happen on the kaiser model?

Changing your GP is trivially easy.

Kestral
Nov 24, 2000

Forum Veteran

DoomTrainPhD posted:

How the gently caress do you eat a pot brownie without smelling or tasting the pot? :psyduck:

Your guess is as good as mine, though given the time and place, I wouldn't be surprised if he'd simply never encountered it before. Weed was not a thing in our circles until he started hanging out with that crowd.

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FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Kestral posted:

Your guess is as good as mine, though given the time and place, I wouldn't be surprised if he'd simply never encountered it before. Weed was not a thing in our circles until he started hanging out with that crowd.

I was a super sheltered straight as an arrow dork who grew up in Idaho and didn’t get high until I was 30 and even I knew what weed smelled like. And this was in CALIFORNIA??

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