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Lance of Llanwyln posted:I didn’t even realize you could split pops until I saw it online. OTOH, it had blue Prussia.
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Prussia should only ever be yellow and Germany itself should only ever be toothpaste blue.
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Funky Valentine posted:Prussia should only ever be yellow and Germany itself should only ever be toothpaste blue. but if Germany is toothpaste blue then what color is Sardinia-Piedmont?
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Sometimes I read Steam reviews for various Paradox games simply to find gems like these (this is for Imperator) Extremely bad game that I've only sunk 350 hours into.
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Feb 2, 2021 11:48
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I once bought FTL for a dollar and got 400 hours of joy of it. Any game that doesn't have the same price/hours ratio is trash.
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Feb 2, 2021 11:58
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Star posted:Sometimes I read Steam reviews for various Paradox games simply to find gems like these (this is for Imperator) Someone on Reddit was complaining that Destiny got boring after 1000 hours, I got downvoted to oblivion for replying 'seems like you got your money's worth'. Some people...
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Feb 2, 2021 12:10
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To be fair, the good paradox games have a lifespan of like a decade of semi-regular playability so thousands of hours played isn’t uncommon. By that metric 350 is pocket change.
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Feb 2, 2021 12:41
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I wouldn't be that surprised if that guy actually didn't enjoy the 350 hours he played the game tbh. Seems like the type to keep playing a game he hates for hundreds of hours.
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Feb 2, 2021 13:18
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I'd probably leave negative review for Stellaris after playing ~200 hours or so. But most of this would be coming after an expansion trying the game again. People say it's good, there's a lot of positivity about it, maybe it's fine now?.. No it's not, it's still a slog about waiting for enough minerals and influence to build the next star base. But arguing that it should cost less is funny. I've got the same intoxication time from $10 bottle of vodka as from $50 bottle of whiskey so whiskey is obviously overpriced.
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Feb 2, 2021 13:52
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Dollars to hours is a dumb metric, but honestly I have the same issue with Stellaris. More than a hundred hours played without really liking the game. The problem is the game shows so much promise, but once I start playing I just get bored after 3 or 4 hours into a campaign. I just keep booting it back up every few months thinking this time I'll get an interesting run going, only to lose interest again. Rinse repeat.
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Feb 2, 2021 14:28
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ilitarist posted:I'd probably leave negative review for Stellaris after playing ~200 hours or so. But most of this would be coming after an expansion trying the game again. People say it's good, there's a lot of positivity about it, maybe it's fine now?.. No it's not, it's still a slog about waiting for enough minerals and influence to build the next star base. I think there's some legitimacy in playing a game like Stellaris for 200 hours, realising 'wait the complexity you think the game has doesn't actually exist once you spend the time to really dig under the surface and understand it' and then leaving a review saying 'hey guys maybe don't invest your time in this if you are hoping that by understanding the game mechanics you will come to some grand revelation'. Destiny is the same from hour 1 to hour 1000 so you just got bored. I think we agree that AC Valhalla would actually be better if it were just half as long.
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Antlerhill posted:Dollars to hours is a dumb metric, but honestly I have the same issue with Stellaris. More than a hundred hours played without really liking the game. Of course engagement isn't really the only thing that matters here, especially not minute-to-minute engagement. Your perception of the time spent is probably colored far more by the disappointing end to your campaign, when you realize the game has turned into an unenjoyably slog, even if you were really digging the early parts. Depending on how much you play other Paradox games, high tens/low hundreds of hours played are probably more indicative of how much you want to like the game than how much you actually do.
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Feb 2, 2021 14:53
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what are you doing with your life if you need to watch a movie while you are playing a videogame
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ilitarist posted:what are you doing with your life if you need to watch a movie while you are playing a videogame hard chillin bitch what about you
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I am not man enough to dare to attempt that level of entertainment.
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Feb 2, 2021 16:01
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I mean, Paradox games can very easily have a good amount of empty time going on. Waiting for stuff to happen as an OPM in EU, single province count in CK, or uncivilized nation in Vicky. Or having to sit around waiting because your HoI4 endgame war has developed into a total slog in hellish terrain and the game is lagging because it always slows down during endgame, or because you're in the earlygame where you're just waiting for focuses and research to finish while you build factories or something. I have some sort of video going on in the background a lot of the time when I'm playing HoI4.
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Feb 2, 2021 16:09
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I turn off the music and find a youtube playlist for "(insert country/culture here) folk music" or similar. also browse the forums on my phone
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Feb 2, 2021 16:23
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i've played tons of stellaris and enjoyed it, but only because i modded the hell out of the game. i would still leave a negative review for the base game if i felt compelled to review it for some reason.
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Feb 2, 2021 16:27
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ilitarist posted:I am not man enough to dare to attempt that level of entertainment.
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Star posted:Sometimes I read Steam reviews for various Paradox games simply to find gems like these (this is for Imperator) How many times are people gonna post negative reviews from people with lots of hours played before we all come to an agreement that it's actually entirely reasonable to end up not liking a game you've sunk a decent amount of time into. ilitarist posted:what are you doing with your life if you need to watch a movie while you are playing a videogame you laugh now but you will change your tune if you ever get a second monitor. I can no longer play Paradox games without some kind of stream or video on the second monitor.
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I feel like if you spend more than a couple hours on a game you didn’t like that’s on you
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CharlestheHammer posted:I feel like if you spend more than a couple hours on a game you didn’t like that’s on you You're posting this in the paradox grand strategy thread. A thread about games that often take dozens of hours to figure out if they're good, and evolve over time as patches and DLC come out.
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I know whether I’m going to like a paradox game within a couple hours yes. It did not take me more than five hours to figure out I do not like hearts of iron. Playing it a lot and burning out that I understand
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Jazerus posted:i've played tons of stellaris and enjoyed it, but only because i modded the hell out of the game. i would still leave a negative review for the base game if i felt compelled to review it for some reason. Mod support's a good feature for a game though
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Gort posted:Mod support's a good feature for a game though sure but stellaris is much more like an elder scrolls game than other paradox games, in that the mod support is the only thing that saves it from being a total trash fire in practice even though the core of a good game is present. a big portion of my mod list consists of things that should just be in the game. Jazerus fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Feb 2, 2021 |
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Feb 2, 2021 22:03
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I can usually form an opinion on a video game before hour 100, personally.
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I've been playing paradox since EU2 and I'd rather play Stellaris than say Sengoku or March of the Eagles. They've released at least 2 "games" that were tech demos for other things they'd rather make, and I never hear anyone complain about that. Stellaris never really recovered from the fact that it had multiple movement types during the initial design, and then they decided to go towards MoO2 hyperlanes every one was comfortable with.
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Feb 3, 2021 01:17
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stellaris is well liked outside of here and is pretty easily the best 4x style space game
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i think that speaks more to how dire the alternatives are
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How I perceived the whole stellaris arc. Paradox - we are making a cool, not MoO2 derived space 4x. Fans - awesome. Fans after release - wait why can't I set up borders or choke points? You mean people can just fly where ever they want in space? Paradox - okay fine we didn't really have a way of forcing interaction anyway so we'll move towards hyperlanes only. Fans - why did you break my game? Where is my content? #warpDryve4lyfe #whereDaJumpgates@
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When I said fans I mean every single person who ever played the game full stop.
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Stellaris on release was a bad game. It kept being bad until it went lanes only, at which point it became mediocre. Adding back in the other two travel types would not be an improvement unless they put as much work into making them work well as they've put into lanes at this point. Modded Stellaris was fun until the launcher began preventing heavily modded multiplayer from working, at which point I stopped playing it. I haven't gone back since and I doubt I will. The last DLC seemed like a joke with how bare it was and doesn't exactly inspire confidence in any future DLC.
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Grevlek posted:When I said fans I mean every single person who ever played the game full stop. That's how the post is written, that somehow the different groups of fans with differing expectations are being inconsistent by wanting different things. Stellaris is still bland, has boring combat, and way too much pop micro. 5 years after release.
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i dont think its the alternatives being dire i think its just that people like stellaris. it just isnt really a grand strat game and you cant play it constantly as easily as something like eu4, its player numbers have always had it solidly third behind hoi4 and eu4 though. i assume ck3 probably has better player numbers than it with how well it was recieved
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Stux posted:i dont think its the alternatives being dire i think its just that people like stellaris. it just isnt really a grand strat game and you cant play it constantly as easily as something like eu4, its player numbers have always had it solidly third behind hoi4 and eu4 though. i assume ck3 probably has better player numbers than it with how well it was recieved if you want a space empire building game, what are the alternatives though it's, like, ES2, some really user-hostile grog games, and some other MOO clones that are a decade old and weren't good at the time either
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Grevlek posted:MoO2 hyperlanes every one was comfortable with.
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the fact it manages to stand out in a very niche genre and have a higher player count than pretty much anything else in the same vein ever did isnt exactly a point against its quality, because assumably given only bad options people would simply continue to not play games of that type as they had been already
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