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Jaxyon posted:Yeah, that's pretty true. It's the privilege of white men to dress down to important events. Are you okay? I'm asking sincerely.
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Kith posted:Are you okay? I'm asking sincerely. Yeah. Have you guys like, not done at sort of study of white supremacy at all? This is like, basic anti-racism work. WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Lol so if you under dress you're channeling white supremacy? Could it be that he is a humble socialist man who drives a loving year old subaru and is wearing a jacket out of need for warmth? The article isn't accusing him of being a white supremacist. It's using him as an example of white supremacy. Do you understand the difference?
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I'm just baffled at how hard you're reaching. I'm starting to see where the red text came from.
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Feb 2, 2021 06:24
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Bernie, the white supremacist. Can we reserve the term exclusively when people are vocally or tacitly espousing the inherent genetic supremacy of whites? It starts to lose meaning and impact real quick when the most damning example you have is Bernie Sanders goofy rear end mittens and a split second his posture was imperfect at the inauguration. Lmao he wasn't in 24/7 awe and ecstasy at the inauguration of cop Kamala Harris and centrist neoliberal warmonger Joe Biden so he's white supremacist, give me a break guy
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:Bernie, the white supremacist. He should have been cheering and wearing traditional Teutonic Knights dress as to show his class sense for the momentous event.
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Kith posted:I'm just baffled at how hard you're reaching. I'm starting to see where the red text came from. Yeah it came from me pointing out when people were being ableist, and they also couldn't imagine somebody could criticizing them without hating whatever politics they had. Seems to be a pretty common problem. I'm probably still going to call people out on poo poo though. dorkasaurus_rex posted:Bernie, the white supremacist. Just lol at fragility.txt over here. "The US is a white supremacist culture" is just really watering down the term, you see. I'll be less dismissive: Nobody at all is calling Bernie a white supremacist. They're talking about cultural white supremacy. They're using him as an example. You are too busy getting defensive to actually engage with the topic. Anyhow, this is the pic/video thread, here's some Bernie. I think he takes a couple of hits in this video, I bet the coders were all liberals who hate M4A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNzWrHN0ujc Jaxyon fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Feb 2, 2021 |
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OK let's talk about this paragraph, which to me seem to be the meat and potatoes of the argument espoused in the article:quote:Not so sweet? The blindness I see, of so many (Bernie included), to the privileges Bernie represents. I don’t know many poor, or working class, or female, or struggling-to-be-taken-seriously folk who would show up at the inauguration of our 46th president dressed like Bernie. Unless those same folk had privilege. Which they don’t. We've already shown you pictures of female folk who did show up dressed like Bernie. Not a lot of poor or working class folk on the dais I'm going to guess. And there was no audience because of the pandemic this time, but presumably that audience would normally contain some poor and/or working class and/or POC folk, no? Is the claim here that most (many, all ?) of these people would show up dressed more like Harris than like Bernie? Get loving real will ya. This argument is ridiculous on its face. And if you must be convinced, go look up how the audience was dressed during the HISTORIC INAUGURATION RITUAL OF THE DECADE of one Barack Obama in 2009. Here, I've done it for you, timestamp 4:00. Lots of Bernie looking motherfuckers up in this bitch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_UVZiPEM6o Lastly, have you considered how US-supremacist this whole display of imperial power and grandeur is to the countless millions of people oppressed by your cruel empire across the world? Don't see anybody even mentioning this. In conclusion, gently caress your dumb rituals. Orange Devil fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Feb 2, 2021 |
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Feb 2, 2021 12:28
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Jaxyon posted:Yeah it came from me pointing out when people were being ableist, and they also couldn't imagine somebody could criticizing them without hating whatever politics they had. I'm not white, brainiac. Us brown folks are a bit more concerned about white supremacy in the form of drone bombings and airstrikes on civilians than the sole socialist US senator's improper posture in one split second of his day. I'm not defensive, you're wasting people's time and energy on self destructive and utterly banal non-issues while the US foreign policy juggernaut continues on unimpeded, making you effectively a servant of it. Maybe once we close Gitmo we can focus on the white supremacy of Bernie Sanders' mittens and sitting posture
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This Jaxyon moron did the EXACT same derail in another thread and kept coming back with increasingly idiotic posts to make others yell at him, he's either really stupid, or has a humiliation fetish. Just please don't reply to him.
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Updating racist packaging! Vanilla guy looks pretty dignified, but the other one is inexcusable in 2021 - atamon is a brand name for sodium benzoate, used to sterilize preserving jars.  
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https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1356587252802068480 Lord Humungus holding a press briefing in Moscow today
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1356587252802068480 I'm not really convinced that Putin is the Ayatollah of rock'n'rollah. Does he even dance?
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Fish of hemp posted:I'm not really convinced that Putin is the Ayatollah of rock'n'rollah. Does he even dance? You bet he does https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wga5A6R9BJg
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Orange Devil posted:We've already shown you pictures of female folk who did show up dressed like Bernie. 4:00 is people in the crowd, not up on the dais. It's a running joke that white guys barely dress up for anything. They don't have to, because they sit on top of the social hierarchy due to white supremacy. quote:Lastly, have you considered how US-supremacist this whole display of imperial power and grandeur is to the countless millions of people oppressed by your cruel empire across the world? Don't see anybody even mentioning this. In conclusion, gently caress your dumb rituals. Yeah it's entirely white supremacist, I 100% agree. But since people are getting mad at talking about social norms I figure that's another conversation. dorkasaurus_rex posted:I'm not white, brainiac. Us brown folks are a bit more concerned about white supremacy in the form of drone bombings and airstrikes on civilians than the sole socialist US senator's improper posture in one split second of his day. I'm not defensive, you're wasting people's time and energy on self destructive and utterly banal non-issues while the US foreign policy juggernaut continues on unimpeded, making you effectively a servant of it. Well you're doing a pretty good impression of white fragility, so my mistake. Because I definitely said that mittens were more important than gitmo. And so did the article!
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Oh wow a "no true POC". Nope. But by all means project everything you want on me because I agreed with a light critique of something that wasn't even aimed at Bernie.
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Jaxyon posted:Nope. Oh sorry I didn't read any of those posts, just the last one. e: Well, just the last two lines, actually.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Oh sorry I didn't read any of those posts, just the last one. I don't know that you did, since I didn't declare that anyone wan't a true PoC, that's something Biden did.
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There has to be a better place for this stupid argument than the pictures thread. https://twitter.com/DoritosArabia/status/585443853064351744
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Jaxyon posted:4:00 is people in the crowd, not up on the dais. Are you white yourself? And you certainly put a lot more time and energy into complaining about how a dude sat at a thing one time then any kibd of actual policy which actual effects anyone. Truly baffling choice of hill to die on. Changing how white dudes dress at the inauguration and at the Oscars is quite literally the lowest hanging fruit possible. Baby's first critique of white supremacy. You suck so hard why is this in the pictures thread lmao
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:Are you white yourself? And you certainly put a lot more time and energy into complaining about how a dude sat at a thing one time then any kibd of actual policy which actual effects anyone. Yes, I am white. And a man. Baby's first critique of white supremacy, sure, but here are a bunch of folks somehow confusing it with the idea that Bernie is somehow a Klansman. Two different people have put criticisms up on twitter that Bernie has male privilege and white privilege, essentially. That's true. He does. It's not really worthy of a huge conversation. The reason it becomes a big derail is that people rush in to defend Bernie's if you agree with them. It's in the picture thread because people think even basic feminist and anti-racist discussion is an attack on him and worthy of ridicule and I don't agree. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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So I haven't seen the interview and don't know if it's going to be critical or softball, but all I could think when I saw this is 'Al Qaeda got a glow up.' https://twitter.com/Martin28Smith/status/1356621851984863240
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Jaxyon posted:Yes, I am white. And a man. Baby's first critique of white supremacy, sure, but here are a bunch of folks somehow confusing it with the idea that Bernie is somehow a Klansman. The reason for the big derail is your lovely assed basic as gently caress takes. gently caress off man.
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Lifeglug posted:The reason for the big derail is your lovely assed basic as gently caress takes. gently caress off man. "If we talk about white supremacy then actually that means we're accusing Bernie of being an active racist" is actually the basic lovely take here
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vorebane posted:I don't think it's a 'Bernie should be performing emotional labour' take, it's a 'Bernie can slack off on emotional labour, the rest of us get to, too' take.
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Jaxyon posted:Yes, I am white. And a man. Baby's first critique of white supremacy, sure, but here are a bunch of folks somehow confusing it with the idea that Bernie is somehow a Klansman. Nobody came to the Pictures thread to discuss forum poster Jaxyon’s uneducated bone to pick with his ideological enemy. How about you talk to people in The Minority Rapport and see if they think you are an appropriate messenger based on your ID pol and your knowledge?
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ASAPRockySituation posted:Nobody came to the Pictures thread to discuss forum poster Jaxyon’s uneducated bone to pick with his ideological enemy. How about you talk to people in The Minority Rapport and see if they think you are an appropriate messenger based on your ID pol and your knowledge? What ideological enemy? I love Bernie. Does any discussion of white supremacy have to be forced into the minority subforum or are we allowed to talk about it outside that? Here's a picture 
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Jaxyon posted:"If we talk about white supremacy then actually that means we're accusing Bernie of being an active racist" Indeed YOU are the only anti-racist person itt and possibly in the entire world. If dozens of people are telling you that your take on this is poo poo, they must all be deep-cover crypto-racists themselves!
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^^^^ I'm done with it. The Bloop posted:Indeed YOU are the only anti-racist person itt and possibly in the entire world. If dozens of people are telling you that your take on this is poo poo, they must all be deep-cover crypto-racists themselves! Nope, never said I was at all. But thinking that mentioning white supremacy in culture means that Bernie is a deep cover crypto-racist is a pretty basic mistake for an anti-racist to make. 
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quote:The mods are not online constantly. We all check reports one or twice a day but this isn't our full time job, and you're not necessarily going to get a response within the hour, or even six. Unless something is a true emergency: doxxing, actionable threads of violence, suicide threats, or posting illegal material, it can wait a bit. Moderation has not failed if a bad poster continues to post for a few hours, and decided it has and starting a dumb riot in the thread might get you punished as well. Posting this for no reason 
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Jaxyon posted:^^^^ I'm done with it. Somehow I doubt this. 
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Jaxyon posted:Just lol at fragility.txt over here. people disagreeing with you and thinking that you're a moron doesn't mean that they're fragile in fact, the entire thread turning against you for your idiot garbage takes and you deciding to just keep swinging so you're "still in the fight" and therefore "not losing" is probably one of the better examples of fragility it's obvious that pretty much nobody wants your dumb poo poo here, so please pack up the shards of your shattered ego and stop posting in short: Screaming Idiot posted:Take the L and shut the gently caress up, my dude. anyways, content. https://twitter.com/EW/status/1356443436367372289?s=20
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