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Kind of strange, is it a large difference? I would have expected that the Lifecoach method of overthinking everything to be really good for playing Defect.
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 16:33 |
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KonvexKonkav posted:Kind of strange, is it a large difference? I would have expected that the Lifecoach method of overthinking everything to be really good for playing Defect. Ironclad was 62%, Silent was 64%, Defect was 56% IIRC. It's more likely to be a function of play style - Coach prefers physical Silent to poison, and likewise with the Defect's Orb and physical variants. But physical Defect just isn't as good even with the buffs that at least make it viable.
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 16:48 |
I don't get dickish vibes from Jorbs at all. He has a dry sense of humor and seems like a generally pleasant, if low-energy guy.
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 16:50 |
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I'm not saying I'd handle staring into the howling void of twitch chat for 8 hours a day better, but he can get dickish when people ask dumb questions/disagree with him.
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 16:53 |
Is Jorbs the one with the moderators who will ban you if you suggest plays?
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 16:58 |
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I like him but he gets really annoyed when people ask him why he did something - which is often understandable since a lot if those questions are about really basic poo poo like prolonging a fight to get your relics to the right number. At the same time, it seems kind of his job as a streamer to deal with that in a fashion that doesn't insult his audience.
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 17:01 |
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I would have imagined that this forum of all places would respect a streamer with a "read the room and the faq before posting" policy
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 17:05 |
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SKULL.GIF posted:Is Jorbs the one with the moderators who will ban you if you suggest plays? Yes, he has a pretty strict 'no backseating' rule.
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 17:08 |
SKULL.GIF posted:Is Jorbs the one with the moderators who will ban you if you suggest plays? Yes. Jorbs' chat has rules, including a "don't backseat" rule that pops up when you join chat and is impossible to miss. People who somehow miss it anyway get probated. When people in Twitch are just shooting the poo poo and joking around, he often joins in and has fun with it. I'm fine with the backseating rule. Having people who are worse than you at something try to tell you what to do is annoying, and I'm not gonna fault the guy for getting abrasive when people do it. It's like when people who've never accomplished anything in a gym try to second guess me and tell me what I should be doing for my workouts. poo poo's annoying, and would be even more annoying if I were a world-class athlete. He's streaming his play, not crowdsourcing everybody else's plays. Shine fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Feb 1, 2021 |
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 17:16 |
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Jorbs is a thin-skinned narcissist. So many of the excuses that people make for Jorbs fall apart when you look at other popular Spire streamers. No one else has such a hostile relationship with their chat. Not even close. No one else inspires arguments every time their name comes up. There isn't a conspiracy against him. People react to him differently because he behaves differently.
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 17:24 |
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Yoshi Wins posted:Jorbs is a thin-skinned narcissist. This is a weird post. Who was even arguing about Jorbs?
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 17:34 |
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Act 1 I go for the path that had the most elites, and pivot to most fires if things go south. If the green key is tied with another path for most elites, I go green key path if I'm facing Hexaghost and normal path otherwise. I get the red key act 3 everytime, whenever it's most convenient. I get the blue key act 3 every time except if I get offered a completely useless artifact earlier, like darkstone periscope or whatever it's called.
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 17:37 |
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I've been trying to avoid stuff like hallway-hallway-?-elite sequences without any fires to break them up but it's not practical sometimes. Usually when I get the key early it's when I have two fires in succession with not much in between them.
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 18:15 |
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Zore posted:This is a weird post. Who was even arguing about Jorbs? The preceding several posts were explicitly about whether Jorbs' dickishness was within normal parameters.
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 20:41 |
Yoshi Wins posted:Jorbs is a thin-skinned narcissist. To what conspiracy are you referring?
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 20:59 |
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To get away from Jorbschat for a moment, a completely unrelated streamer just posted his analysis of over 200 games played: https://www.reddit.com/r/slaythespire/comments/la0x75/debrief_from_my_third_annual_100_hearts_in_30/ The take on the Blade Dance buff is interesting, seems like quite an outlier amongst streamers.
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 21:05 |
That's a very good and detailed writeup, thanks for sharing. Presuming of course that it needs fixed in the first place, I'm not sure how you'd fix Blade Dance with just minor tweaks. Maybe do something crazy like bump it to 2 mana for 5(6?) shivs? That might be easier to balance and prevents it from becoming highly efficient deck-filler.
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 22:09 |
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I just want the patch on Switch. 2020/21 has already taken so much. Give me this one thing.
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 22:22 |
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Chaotic Flame posted:I just want the patch on Switch. 2020/21 has already taken so much. Give me this one thing. Same but iOS. Along with iCloud sync.
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 22:31 |
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Llamadeus posted:To get away from Jorbschat for a moment, a completely unrelated streamer just posted his analysis of over 200 games played: Yeah, this is a very good write up. Gotta give the man his due. I think I agree about Blade Dance. It feels like it's almost never wrong to take it. Maybe it should be an uncommon. There isn't a common that pushes you to poison builds as hard as Blade Dance pushes you to shiv builds. Yeah, Deadly Poison is a decent card, but Blade Dance has a much higher potential for impact in a synergistic deck.
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 22:40 |
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Shivs are underrated IMO. Like if you hit poison synergy early it’s obviously better but there’s lots of strong shiv synergies and your deck isn’t trashed if you don’t hit a catalyst. The only thing is a18+ you have to be really careful leaning in too early because laguvin will destroy you
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 22:46 |
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I play on iPad though so idk anything about the new buffs. 4x3 damage on a 1 mana common sounds dumb lol
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 22:52 |
Blade Dance is often a slam pick for me now. 12 damage for 1 energy is great, 16 for 1 is fantastic (on a Common!!!), and BD + Shuriken and/or Kunai is basically an instant-win. I can certainly see the "too good to be fun" argument, though I find a too-good attack to be more fun than, say, Wraith Form. I had a deck yesterday that had poo poo for damage (on Switch, so without the recent buffs, and I didn't have any "god drat" damage synergies) but I still won handily, albeit sluggishly, because I lucked into 3 Wraith Forms, at which point it didn't matter if it took me like 6 turns to deal 300 damage. Wraith Form is a boring type of OP, but Blade Dance is fun OP.
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 22:58 |
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Following up on my Pressure Points post from earlier, the game must have known I was looking to try it again since I got a tailor made run to try it again. Got a Like Water / PP combo in the first store, another Like Water like a battle later and a second PP before the first boss. Ended up with 6 PP and 3 Like Water (one from a mirror) by the end which made me basically invulnerable to nearly anything, but the Heart. That said, it's unfortunate they didn't bother expanding PP out more than the one card. It's a fun take on her deck where you don't have to do the "will Wrath form kill me" math every other turn, but I guess sitting in Calm forever defeats the purpose of playing her. Re: the Silent discussion, I just started playing shortly after the Shiv buff patch, so not sure how it used to be, but I will say poison builds feel so much weaker compared to Shivs. Blade Dance synergizes with so many play X cards this turn relics that I will gravitate to shiv generating cards out the gate since it's way more likely to be viable late game. Poison feels like it needs a lot of specific cards to get rolling, and if you're scaling it with something like envenom you're still going to want shivs to get the poison train rolling.
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 23:07 |
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AverySpecialfriend posted:Shivs are underrated IMO. Like if you hit poison synergy early it’s obviously better but there’s lots of strong shiv synergies and your deck isn’t trashed if you don’t hit a catalyst. The only thing is a18+ you have to be really careful leaning in too early because laguvin will destroy you Blade dance just works with lots of other cards and relics for the silent that it ends up being really good where it is right now. I'm kind of mixed on how I feel about it, because I think it's kind of a crutch that is propping up of bad design for the silent otherwise. But at the same time, I think it's nice that we're able to use cards like choke, accuracy, evenom, and thousand cuts and make viable decks now, and wrist blade is not a terrible boss relic. Like, reverting the change would put a lot of silent cards back into planets aligning decks amounts of usefulness.
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# ? Feb 2, 2021 00:10 |
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Got momentum back! This is A6 Defect My key choices were picking the pandora box after act 2 instead of the goop that gives you energy but no gold. Got some lucky swaps there. Bought chemical X in the first shop with no X cards, I'd never done that before but to beat the heart I need block early. Speaking of which, wow that event where you get the intangible cards is really good for me against the heart: I'm realizing that all my decks eventually get somewhere but I lack early turn damage mitigation against the heart. What are some other early turn heart stoppers that I may be overlooking, besides piercing wail, intangible event, and chemical X + reinforced body?
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# ? Feb 2, 2021 01:21 |
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i dont think id ever refuse the apparition event. or at least i havent come across a good reason yet
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# ? Feb 2, 2021 01:49 |
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pyromance posted:Blade dance just works with lots of other cards and relics for the silent that it ends up being really good where it is right now. I'm kind of mixed on how I feel about it, because I think it's kind of a crutch that is propping up of bad design for the silent otherwise. But at the same time, I think it's nice that we're able to use cards like choke, accuracy, evenom, and thousand cuts and make viable decks now, and wrist blade is not a terrible boss relic. Like, reverting the change would put a lot of silent cards back into planets aligning decks amounts of usefulness. Actually silent is ftw
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# ? Feb 2, 2021 02:05 |
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i stopped playing silent because it felt like i had to play twice as many cards to get the same result as the other two classes (at the time). throw something like well-laid plans on top of that and it was getting tedious
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# ? Feb 2, 2021 02:22 |
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Silent is my favorite. Feels like she gets the most fun combos
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# ? Feb 2, 2021 02:36 |
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Verviticus posted:i dont think id ever refuse the apparition event. or at least i havent come across a good reason yet i sometimes turn down the apparition event and sometimes pass on wraith form because it is not always fun to just win because you got intangible again
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# ? Feb 2, 2021 02:58 |
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ehhh not really sure I get the appeal of snecko e-
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# ? Feb 2, 2021 03:42 |
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Jorbs deciding to aim for quantity of heart wins in a given span of time, but not really speedrunning, is at least a relatively interesting take compared to the speedrunners, winraters, and winstreakers. Not really sure what gap he'd fill otherwise; he even rejects winstreaking as a Thing.
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# ? Feb 2, 2021 04:05 |
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First a20 win but heartless because I wasn’t paying attention at last chest. Not really exciting in any way I just hit 3 wraith forms and an apotheosis lol. Had a much cooler panache start and shivs deck that died on 2nd act 3 boss because I got time eater first
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# ? Feb 2, 2021 14:51 |
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ooh, cursed tome. hmm... 20 HP? eh I'm about to hit a campfire, I can afford to take the damage and rest it off click click click click
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# ? Feb 2, 2021 16:51 |
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Straight White Shark posted:ooh, cursed tome. hmm... 20 HP? eh I'm about to hit a campfire, I can afford to take the damage and rest it off I savescum when this happens to me
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# ? Feb 2, 2021 18:34 |
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is that an autopiloted upgrade or something, or what
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# ? Feb 2, 2021 19:32 |
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:is that an autopiloted upgrade or something, or what im guessing its what i did the other day, which is you just auto pilot click the same line and take a bunch of damage and do not take the reward. i also save scummed this.
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# ? Feb 2, 2021 19:36 |
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going through the entire event and taking the book deals 21 HP, which was fatal to me because I didn't bother thinking about it beyond "oh my HP is low but I have a campfire coming up anyhow"
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On a related note, the most honorable course of action at the Scrap Ooze event is to start at full health and click until you are dead.
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