Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer

christmas boots posted:

good question, I’d probably most strongly associate the office of the presidency with the deadly sin of wrath.
Don't get me wrong, there are definitely good arguments to be made for most of the seven deadly sins, but I think for most presidents it's probably pride.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

Thanatosian posted:

Don't get me wrong, there are definitely good arguments to be made for most of the seven deadly sins, but I think for most presidents it's probably pride.

That was my other pick tbh

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Wait are you supposed to tip your fuckin' package delivery driver? Have I not been this whole time??? God I hate tip logic just pay them more money so I don't have to think about this you loving assholes.

Complications
Jun 19, 2014

Always tip in cash, and always directly hand to hand to your server/delivery person/etc. Never trust a boss with money.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Shame Boy posted:

Wait are you supposed to tip your fuckin' package delivery driver? Have I not been this whole time??? God I hate tip logic just pay them more money so I don't have to think about this you loving assholes.

I think this is more the Whole Foods and grocery delivery side. I've never seen a way to tip for regular amazon poo poo.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

technically, Amazon wasn't stealing the tips themselves

it was giving drivers the full tip, but then reducing the amount they paid drivers by that amount

not that the net effect is much different

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Main Paineframe posted:

technically, Amazon wasn't stealing the tips themselves

it was giving drivers the full tip, but then reducing the amount they paid drivers by that amount

not that the net effect is much different

Ah of course, the same way the lottery funds schools

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



Main Paineframe posted:

technically, Amazon wasn't stealing the tips themselves

it was giving drivers the full tip, but then reducing the amount they paid drivers by that amount

not that the net effect is much different

Had the same thing happen when I worked at a casino. That always seemed sketchy to me, but I just needed the job at the time so I didn't make waves over it. When I asked someone about it a few years later, apparently they can get away with that because it's on a Reservation and normal employee pay rules don't fly there.

So many goddamn stupid loopholes in this system.

HAIL eSATA-n
Apr 7, 2007


ACES CURE PLANES posted:

Had the same thing happen when I worked at a casino. That always seemed sketchy to me, but I just needed the job at the time so I didn't make waves over it. When I asked someone about it a few years later, apparently they can get away with that because it's on a Reservation and normal employee pay rules don't fly there.

So many goddamn stupid loopholes in this system.

"ain't no laws here lol"

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 18 minutes!

Shame Boy posted:

Wait are you supposed to tip your fuckin' package delivery driver? Have I not been this whole time??? God I hate tip logic just pay them more money so I don't have to think about this you loving assholes.

You mean you don't tip your USPS guy, rear end in a top hat?


J/k I'm in a country where mandatory tipping culture is rightly seen as a symptom of oligarchic dysfunction

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Complications posted:

Always tip in cash, and always directly hand to hand to your server/delivery person/etc. Never trust a boss with money.

The trouble with this is that you only tip the guy you're interacting with, not the workers behind the scenes. Say, the waiter but not the chef (unless the waiter is a good guy). It's still good practice though.

The real solution, as always, starts with f and ends in ull communism.

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

Complications posted:

Always tip in cash, and always directly hand to hand to your server/delivery person/etc. Never trust a boss with money.

When I was a busboy at a restaurant I got a tip out % for every shift, but the way it worked is that the wait staff would tip out to the manager (and they were always under-reporting it because that meant they could keep more) and then it would eventually filter its way down to me, the other busboy, the dishwasher etc in a little envelope with my weekly paycheck.

So the only way to know if the boss wasn't skimming off the top would be to go around with a spreadsheet and record the tip out of every server on every shift i worked, which was not something I had any interest of doing as a 16 year old kid. We always just assumed he skimmed some off the top, it was just easier that way. I estimate I was probably short-changed like somewhere between 5-30 dollars per 8 hour shift depending on how busy it was that night.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.



BEHOLD

CORN

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
I used to work at a place where you could add a beer to your order for the chef when he knocked off which was cool except sometimes people would buy kitchen staff way too many beers and then a 17 year old dishie got done for drunk driving and the system was abandoned rather than try to figure out a way to trust chefs to handle alcohol

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

I used to work at a place where you could add a beer to your order for the chef when he knocked off which was cool except sometimes people would buy kitchen staff way too many beers and then a 17 year old dishie got done for drunk driving and the system was abandoned rather than try to figure out a way to trust chefs to handle alcohol

Shoulda bought the back of the house some weed or coke instead.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
That's the exact opposite of how it works actually

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar

Shame Boy posted:

Wait are you supposed to tip your fuckin' package delivery driver? Have I not been this whole time??? God I hate tip logic just pay them more money so I don't have to think about this you loving assholes.

I think the tips are more for poo poo like Prime Now with the one/two hour delivery. It's basically gig driver poo poo.

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

I used to work at a place where you could add a beer to your order for the chef when he knocked off which was cool except sometimes people would buy kitchen staff way too many beers and then a 17 year old dishie got done for drunk driving and the system was abandoned rather than try to figure out a way to trust chefs to handle alcohol

i dont know if anyone's ever done a proper study but im pretty sure restaurant and hospitality has more alcoholic employees per capita then any other industry

speaking as someone who worked in a restaurant for 6 years

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

The Nastier Nate posted:

i dont know if anyone's ever done a proper study but im pretty sure restaurant and hospitality has more alcoholic employees per capita then any other industry

yeah it can be a lot of fun, really :) my favorite are the guys on parole that live in the apartment complex across the street and aren't allowed to leave home except for work so they will always, always pick up your shift so you can go see Phish

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

boar guy posted:

lpick up your shift so you can go see Phish

should be a probation violation tbh

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

indigi posted:

should be a probation violation tbh

bruh, my buddy's brother's company had a suite at the palace of auburn hills. there were like 4 of us there, stocked open bar and food and it was free

poo poo, i'd have probably quit my job to go if said parolee hadn't covered my shift :D

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
Daft Punk came to Australia for the first time ever and the entire kitchen staff got into a massive blue over organising time off because as soon as the tour was announced all 7 of them got tickets and a huge pile of drugs before figuring out that everybody else had done the same thing

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

I used to work at a place where you could add a beer to your order for the chef when he knocked off which was cool except sometimes people would buy kitchen staff way too many beers and then a 17 year old dishie got done for drunk driving and the system was abandoned rather than try to figure out a way to trust chefs to handle alcohol

They do this at Brewdog bars in the UK

They also pay living wage

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
I mean we have a living wage here too but brewdog are a really bad example for this BC they're infamous for underpaying brewery workers

Hollandia
Jul 27, 2007

rattus rattus


Grimey Drawer

Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

I mean we have a living wage here too but brewdog are a really bad example for this BC they're infamous for underpaying brewery workers

Motherfucker, was looking forward to checking out their new one here.

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

Hollandia posted:

Motherfucker, was looking forward to checking out their new one here.

Haven't you learned anything from Sonic about ethical consumption under capitalism?

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



Inceltown posted:

Haven't you learned anything from Sonic about ethical consumption under capitalism?

Eat hot dogs every day?

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓ð’‰𒋫 𒆷ð’€𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 ð’®𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


https://twitter.com/SteveSaretsky/status/1357004522267111429?s=19

East Van is not the desirable side of town.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Warmachine posted:

Eat hot dogs every day?

no thats Žižek, common mistake

Pitcher Witcher
Jan 13, 2020

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kroger-shuts-stores-avoid-hazard-pay-covid/

quote:

Kroger is closing two stores in California rather than pay grocery workers an extra four dollars an hour for working at the nation's largest supermarket chain during the coronavirus pandemic. The company blamed a decision by local officials who recently approved a temporary wage increase for some supermarket employees.

Kroger said it will close the stores, a Ralphs and a Food 4 Less, in April because of the law, passed in January by the Long Beach city council. With a handful of cities across California weighing whether to mandate "hazard pay" for grocery workers, Kroger also warned that it could shut more stores.

They absolutely will not let my co-workers and I have those delicious crumbs we got March to May 2020 ever again.

Sanford
Jun 30, 2007

...and rarely post!


Spuckuk posted:

They do this at Brewdog bars in the UK

They also pay living wage

They also write information about a glass surcharge round the edge of the fridge and stare at you like a lunatic when you’re expecting some change. Maybe it’s just because I’m old but in my day you didn’t have to read the fridge in order to fully understand the insane price you’re about to pay for a beer that you’re serving to yourself in a supposedly ‘good’ bar.

I already said I’m old. Get off my loving lawn.

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.

VanSandman posted:

Shoulda bought the back of the house some weed or coke instead.

most kitchens are full up on blow and weed

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

i mean standard advice when you don't have a weed hookup yet in the town you just moved to is to hit up the busboy at Chili's- it's a 100% success rate ime

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

boar guy posted:

i mean standard advice when you don't have a weed hookup yet in the town you just moved to is to hit up the busboy at Chili's- it's a 100% success rate ime

when i was a pizza guy and not yet a respectable pizza manager i had 10 separate customers argue with me about how i should, in fact, be selling weed with the pizza and its leaving money on the table, and what kind of a loving moron am i for not offering drugs with pizza to strangers.

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



Larry Parrish posted:

when i was a pizza guy and not yet a respectable pizza manager i had 10 separate customers argue with me about how i should, in fact, be selling weed with the pizza and its leaving money on the table, and what kind of a loving moron am i for not offering drugs with pizza to strangers.

I absolutely believe this as a one-time delivery cookie store supervisor. The Venn diagram of our customers and stoners was a perfect circle.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

Larry Parrish posted:

when i was a pizza guy and not yet a respectable pizza manager i had 10 separate customers argue with me about how i should, in fact, be selling weed with the pizza and its leaving money on the table, and what kind of a loving moron am i for not offering drugs with pizza to strangers.

used to get guys bringing in a sack of 'shrooms and asking me to bake them on to a pizza at least weekly

SpacePig
Apr 4, 2007

Hold that pose.
I've gotta get something.

Pitcher Witcher posted:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kroger-shuts-stores-avoid-hazard-pay-covid/


They absolutely will not let my co-workers and I have those delicious crumbs we got March to May 2020 ever again.

I don't mean to Lucille Bluth myself here, but how many people could 2 stores possibly employ that it'd be that big of a hit to National Grocery Chain Kroger? I know the move is just to scare other places into not adding hazard pay, but it really is incredibly childish and will absolutely be blamed on the government.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer

SpacePig posted:

I don't mean to Lucille Bluth myself here, but how many people could 2 stores possibly employ that it'd be that big of a hit to National Grocery Chain Kroger? I know the move is just to scare other places into not adding hazard pay, but it really is incredibly childish and will absolutely be blamed on the government.

Seattle passed a similar law (even for the same amount, $4 an hour) and to my knowledge, Kroger hasn't closed any stores here, and there are a lot more than two Kroger stores inside of Seattle (I know of at least five off the top of my head, but it's gotta be more like a dozen).

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

SpacePig posted:

I don't mean to Lucille Bluth myself here, but how many people could 2 stores possibly employ that it'd be that big of a hit to National Grocery Chain Kroger? I know the move is just to scare other places into not adding hazard pay, but it really is incredibly childish and will absolutely be blamed on the government.

No poo poo it's a PR move exclusively. In theory, it could be that those specific stores were no longer profitable with a living wage, but it's absolutely just about keeping wages down and profits up.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply