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Android Apocalypse posted:
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FizFashizzle posted:i just don't think there's an entire crop of people out there ready to buy up Q merchandise because the DCCC talked poo poo. Spoeank posted:You don't understand qanon in 2021. It's literally whatever you want it to be as long as you are disaffected with a healthy distrust for power. Pick an entry point. Saving kids. Anti vaxx. Voting irregularities. Literally all entry points for Qanon Just to add on to this: a very large number of americans do not look at the invasion of the capitol building as "an attempted coup" - they believe the election was stolen, and see it as a sadly failed patriotic effort to rescue the country from a coup. However incredibly stupid that is, and it's really incredibly stupid, it's the world we're in right now. I think the reason people won't pick up QAnon - if that's the case, and I'm not convinced - is that the foundational theory of QAnon was that an anonymous member of Trump's executive branch was leaking the secret plans within the Trump admin to do <whatever> and fix America, all as part of this secret super clever plan to thwart the Deep State. But obviously all those people are out of power now. Who would Q still be? But "QAnon" is, as Spoeank explains, more of a coalescing of people around a central idea, and that idea is "utter bullshit conspiracy theory as a substitute for sane politics". And that is absolutely not gone, not even significantly diminished, and if it rallies around the increasingly meaningless "QAnon" label, or some other label, doesn't matter that much. What matters is that anyone who just dismisses it as silly or irrelevant is being extremely foolish. There is a ton of righteous pent-up frustration and anger in this country. It manifested in part last week as a pump-and-dump of Gamestop stock, which, lol, but also a warning that frustration being vented in goofball kinda alarming ineffective but still people get hurt ways is not the sole province of the left, center, or right, it's endemic in the country, and politicians should take it seriously on both sides of the aisle. On that basis: Democrats calling Republicans "the party of QAnon" is absolutely not the own that they think it is. It's alienating to the substantial minority of their own base that voted for Trump because of this desperate grasping for literally anyone who seems to be giving them an answer - however manipulative, dishonest, racist, or batshit it might be - to what they perceive as the grinding destruction of America. They might as well call republicans "the party of believing that the system is corrupt and broken." What the Dems ought to be doing is drumming on "we're the party that actually acknowledges the system is corrupt and broken, without couching that in endless racism and lies." But, you know, snappier, shorter. I'm not a marketing genius.
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Feb 3, 2021 07:44
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Intruder posted:The wrong person won this one Evel suffered 433 bone fractures in his life!
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Feb 3, 2021 07:55
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Also, I just started replaying God of War as it got a 4k/60fps patch on PS5. It looks amazing, and honestly if Sony just does that for their ps4 lineup I wouldn't care if they didn't release any new games.
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Feb 3, 2021 07:57
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Leperflesh posted:I think the reason people won't pick up QAnon - if that's the case, and I'm not convinced - is that the foundational theory of QAnon was that an anonymous member of Trump's executive branch was leaking the secret plans within the Trump admin to do <whatever> and fix America, all as part of this secret super clever plan to thwart the Deep State.
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Feb 3, 2021 08:26
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I just looked at the Musuo thread (games like Dynasty Warriors and what not), and got very confused by people not liking the Hyrule Warriors sequel: Age of Calamity.
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Feb 3, 2021 08:26
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Nick Jr. Face posted:
Everybody’s focusing on her, but I have the weirdest fascination with her husband. I realize another wealthy steroid-ridden jackass is hardly new for LA or Miami or whereverthefuck, but his combination of all white wardrobe, comically desperate physique, and supposed “liquor distributor” career is utterly hilarious to me, I never get tired of these absurd characters.
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Feb 3, 2021 08:50
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Spoeank posted:https://twitter.com/allymutnick/status/1356772285856821251?s=19 Ignoring everything else isn't the Q...base (whatever, I don't know what to call it) disturbingly well educated? Like they're idiots but a ton of them are idiots who were able to make their way through higher education.
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Feb 3, 2021 09:13
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Skwirl posted:I just looked at the Musuo thread (games like Dynasty Warriors and what not), and got very confused by people not liking the Hyrule Warriors sequel: Age of Calamity. It's because the people in the Games forum don't actually like video games
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Feb 3, 2021 09:22
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sweet thursday posted:It's because the people in the Games forum don't actually like video games I meant because they kept referring to how disappointing they found AOC.
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Skwirl posted:I meant because they kept referring to how disappointing they found AOC. I'm not exactly happy with every move she's made recently but *receives note at podium* oh y'all talking about a Musou game? gently caress 'em. -- one of the first things I saw this morning was the I was happy/sad/heartened to read everyone's "how we doin' in the pandemic" posts earlier, very late to the party but we're doing about as well as possible. Two people working full time from a 700 sq ft two-ish bedroom apartment isn't great, but we're getting through it, and my job has gotten a lot better since changing departments from September. we're trying to have a baby, we're trying to look for a place to buy, my wife wants to change her job, I'm going to get my poo poo together to apply for the Japanese equivalent of a green card (which should help with that 'buying housing' part), and I'm trying to go run more regularly to stay in shape. but on the other hand, it's tough and I'm missing family. the last time I saw any of my family in person was...end of September 2019, when my sister left after visiting. last time I saw my dad was early that same month when my mom passed away. I really wanted to get to visit last year, but, well...not really a smart idea. I'm really glad the missus and I did a decent amount of traveling in 2019, I just hope we can do something like that again sooner than later.
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Feb 3, 2021 11:42
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Grittybeard posted:Ignoring everything else isn't the Q...base (whatever, I don't know what to call it) disturbingly well educated? Like they're idiots but a ton of them are idiots who were able to make their way through higher education. There's two parts to that. The 1st is that yes, people that fall for cults tend to be wealthier, better educated, and generally going through a major life transition. So think of your wealthy empty nesters, or newly divorced MAGA dads, or someone who say has gone through a huge pandemic and has been stuck at home and their entire way of life has collapsed. But the education signifier is different. I don't think upper education really signifies a lot anymore. Like I can go to a bible college and get an MBA from phoenix university and never once get forced think critically. I'd like to see the breakdown of what that upper education actually entailed. Also, going off what spoeank said, q anon is basically an umbrella for so much poo poo that claiming you believe in Q doesn't really mean much. Any poll that's going to try to find this is going to have to do some digging. Is q believer a "wayfair smuggling kids" person or a "rfk is alive" person. Because of the internet all the various crazies have come togehter, have started recruiting other lonely people, and are selling shirts.
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Feb 3, 2021 13:46
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How many people actually believe in any of these various conspiracy theories though? I think we’re inflating how many people actually believe any of the Q poo poo. I think the Dems labeling the GOP as the party of Q isn’t necessarily a bad move, but the better move is to actually pass things people want. The Dems have run on, “we’re not as bad as the GOP” for a long time now, and it has mixed results, to say the least.
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Feb 3, 2021 13:55
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There are just so many things that can lead into it, and once you're in you quickly fall into any other thing. Believe Wayfair trafficked children? Believe Hillary Clinton had someone killed? Believe career bureaucrats were working against Donald Trump? Believe Tom Brady's super bowls are legitimate? Believe the dead voted in Georgia? Any of these things can lead a person into the center, which is where they end up going to every other one. And how can you tell them they're wrong? There is thousands of hours of youtube videos they can watch about these things. Facebook groups with untold numbers of people. It's a gigantic community now. the only way to break it at this point is shutting down facebook and youtube about it.
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Feb 3, 2021 14:03
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Thaddius the Large posted:Everybody’s focusing on her, but I have the weirdest fascination with her husband. I realize another wealthy steroid-ridden jackass is hardly new for LA or Miami or whereverthefuck, but his combination of all white wardrobe, comically desperate physique, and supposed “liquor distributor” career is utterly hilarious to me, I never get tired of these absurd characters. If you order Pitbull from wish.com you get this guy And that lady...she screams Real Housewives of Somewhere. She’s gonna be a star.
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Feb 3, 2021 14:14
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dirty shrimp money posted:If you order Pitbull from wish.com you get this guy We have to stop idolizing and making all of these terrible narcissistic people famous.
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Feb 3, 2021 14:17
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Dango Bango posted:We have to stop idolizing and making all of these terrible narcissistic people famous. It's this. I don't give a single poo poo about her, her trashy husband, or her apology.
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Feb 3, 2021 14:25
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Feb 3, 2021 14:27
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Leperflesh posted:What the Dems ought to be doing is drumming on "we're the party that actually acknowledges the system is corrupt and broken, without couching that in endless racism and lies." But, you know, snappier, shorter. I'm not a marketing genius. They’re not tho? They’re just as beholden to the oligarchs as the Rs. Look at what’s happening to the slam dunk of just giving people money. I look forward to the Q wave of 2022 since the Dems will do nothing.
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Feb 3, 2021 14:42
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Ehud posted:one idea is we all go live out in the woods Turns out rural folks have the same dumb drama
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Feb 3, 2021 14:43
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Nick Jr. Face posted:I watched a documentary on CNN over the weekend that covered the origins of QAnon and how it got to where it is today. Needless to say it all feels to me like a troll on 4chan that got carried away and went further than anyone could've imagined. FWIW most of the actual Q researchers who have been studying the movement for years think that documentary is a pile of poo poo
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Feb 3, 2021 15:51
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Intruder posted:The wrong person won this one THANK YOU, signed the one who drew the amateur wrestler.
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dirty shrimp money posted:If you order Pitbull from wish.com you get this guy https://twitter.com/valhallabckgirl/status/1356750527065821184 Bruh
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Feb 3, 2021 16:06
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Qanon's favorability ratings are in the toilet. It's like 13% favorable / 63% unfavorable.
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Feb 3, 2021 16:12
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What if we started a new Q type scam but we convince a bunch of gullible people to believe a lie that benefits everyone
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Feb 3, 2021 16:20
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Ehud posted:What if we started a new Q type scam but we convince a bunch of gullible people to believe a lie that benefits everyone Jesus tried it, but it didn't turn out so well.
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Feb 3, 2021 16:21
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Ehud posted:What if we started a new Q type scam but we convince a bunch of gullible people to believe a lie that benefits everyone Voting works
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Feb 3, 2021 16:22
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The Q thing feels like it's both red meat for libs who think QAnon is just a bunch of dumb racist hicks, and a guilt trip for "normal" Republicans who have yet to make a grand gesture of denouncing that part of their party. Nobody who's ever been in a cult has been talked out of said cult by people "hey you're in a cult dummy". At the same time I don't think it's 100% comparable to the deplorable insult from 2016, because unlike 2016 the group in question has already more or less coalesced and we know exactly what they are. tl;dr stop hyping up your base with meaningless insults and spend that time sending relief payments to people Dems you morons.
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Feb 3, 2021 16:22
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I just finished the GroverTruk thread and holy poo poo. I am so glad I'm already married so I don't have the potential to meet a dude, have him tell me he lives in a Budget Rent A Truck in the woods, shits in a hole in the ground, and he'd love to take me to see it. Jesus Christ.
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Feb 3, 2021 16:35
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Braksgirl posted:I just finished the GroverTruk thread and holy poo poo. I am so glad I'm already married so I don't have the potential to meet a dude, have him tell me he lives in a Budget Rent A Truck in the woods, shits in a hole in the ground, and he'd love to take me to see it. Jesus Christ. But the scones!
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Feb 3, 2021 16:46
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fsif posted:Qanon's favorability ratings are in the toilet. It's like 13% favorable / 63% unfavorable. it doesn't matter what it is now, it matters what they will turn this messaging into. "You're either with the democrats or you're with Qanon" "Well I guess I'm with Qanon" Democrats think everyone has West Wing brain and can be convinced to see the error of their ways through facts and logic. You know the intended effect of "deplorables" was supposed to be "oh my god I am not deplorable, how could I be with these brutes?!" and it was actually "hey gently caress you lady"
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Feb 3, 2021 16:56
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Please let this take down barstool https://twitter.com/fxhedgers/status/1356995908748017664?s=21
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Feb 3, 2021 17:06
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FizFashizzle posted:Please let this take down barstool Lol he already lost 700k on memestocks
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FizFashizzle posted:Please let this take down barstool Barstool's already owned by a casino company right? Maybe we can get this to take hold. https://twitter.com/conspiraboomers/status/1356985972840419328?s=19 Bird in a Blender fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Feb 3, 2021 |
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Feb 3, 2021 17:10
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Braksgirl posted:I just finished the GroverTruk thread and holy poo poo. I am so glad I'm already married so I don't have the potential to meet a dude, have him tell me he lives in a Budget Rent A Truck in the woods, shits in a hole in the ground, and he'd love to take me to see it. Jesus Christ. Think of the great sleep you would get in the back of that box truck sitting around the fire pit inside it!
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Neil Armbong posted:They’re not tho? They’re just as beholden to the oligarchs as the Rs. Look at what’s happening to the slam dunk of just giving people money. I did not mean to imply that they were; rather, I was saying the dems should both message that, and also... actually be and do that. They have an opportunity, right now, to pivot a bit, embrace a version of trump messaging (e.g., "the system is corrupt and stupid and isn't working for americans") but with actual honesty and not being actually about personal glorification and grift. I'm not holding my breath though lol.
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Ehud posted:one idea is we all go live out in the woods Way ahead of you, but this drat internet keeps putting these people in front of my eyes. Braksgirl posted:I just finished the GroverTruk thread and holy poo poo. I am so glad I'm already married so I don't have the potential to meet a dude, have him tell me he lives in a Budget Rent A Truck in the woods, shits in a hole in the ground, and he'd love to take me to see it. Jesus Christ. Like many of the things in that thread, him taking a woman to the box truck in which he lives on a first date made me wonder "how else did you think that was going to end?"
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https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1356809709878091779?s=19 There are two justice systems. It's worth noting that it's a "work-related bonding retreat" and she owns her own business
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Spoeank posted:it doesn't matter what it is now, it matters what they will turn this messaging into. I mean then I guess I would wait to see the ads before getting worked up. I don't think there are really a ton of parallels between this and "basket of deplorables." There's so much Democrat magic out there already in magically turning $2000 checks into $1400 that I don't need an additional outrage vector of imagining a very particular way that they will mess up the messaging of associating their opponents with a broadly unpopular thing, heh.
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