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The Perfect Score and Cellular both came out the same year and I think Cellular was really where Evans broke through for real. It didn't make huge money or anything, but it was successful and had some big stars in it and he was the lead. I definitely didn't know his name until that movie, then like a year later he got the role in Fantastic Four.
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I remember seeing the previews for Cellular and thinking "who is this guy?" and didn't even connect him with being Chris Evans until just now.
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Feb 3, 2021 16:02
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Cellular is the movie with Kim Basinger and I think Jason Statham? I remember at least one trailer that gives away the entire movie.
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Feb 3, 2021 16:31
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Yea Cellular was one of those movies that came and went and has mostly been forgotten, but at the time it was actually a bit of a sleeper hit. It made around 60 million, which is like a little less than John Wick made, just for comparison. The only reason I remember it is because I worked at a one-screen theater when it came out so I ended up seeing it like three times.
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Feb 3, 2021 16:39
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And let's also not forget Cellular has Jason Statham doing his best American accent He's trying his best, everyone (this clip is from The One with Jet Li but it's the same accent) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9YRoFCPJOU&t=480s
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Wow, I think that's the first time i've ever seen more than two posts in a row about Sunshine anywhere on the internet that didn't devolve into STEMlords grousing about the central conceit of the film It was my favorite "shooting for that 2001 vibe" movie before Interstellar, and the first film I bought on bluray. I'ma have to watch it again soon I guess!
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Feb 3, 2021 18:24
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Baba Yaga Fanboy posted:And let's also not forget Cellular has Jason Statham doing his best American accent 
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Feb 3, 2021 18:29
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Phy posted:Wow, I think that's the first time i've ever seen more than two posts in a row about Sunshine anywhere on the internet that didn't devolve into STEMlords grousing about the central conceit of the film Pft the concept of the film is totally fine. It's out there but it's not bonkers impossible. And even if it were who cares uggghh. You're allowed one thing that isn't real if it sets up the dang premise of the movie. Like The Martian. Windstorms like that on Mars can't knock over a rocket but let's all pretend they can so we can watch the loving movie.
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Feb 3, 2021 18:37
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I basically only heard of Sunshine as The Core 2: Solar Boogaloo, so while I liked The Core as a trashy disaster flick I never saw Sunshine. Think I'll remedy that.
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Feb 3, 2021 18:46
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Byzantine posted:I basically only heard of Sunshine as The Core 2: Solar Boogaloo, so while I liked The Core as a trashy disaster flick I never saw Sunshine. Sunshine is way, way better than The Core, even if the premises are similarly stupid scientifically. That said, I love The Core, and I love DJ Qualls as the worst, dumbest hacker in the whole world.
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Feb 3, 2021 18:53
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Captain Monkey posted:Sunshine is way, way better than The Core, even if the premises are similarly stupid scientifically. DJ Qualls running around screaming "It's the whales! The whales!" at the end of the core is one of the most gloriously stupid moments in film history and I could watch it on repeat forever
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Feb 3, 2021 18:57
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Basebf555 posted:Yea Cellular was one of those movies that came and went and has mostly been forgotten, but at the time it was actually a bit of a sleeper hit. It made around 60 million, which is like a little less than John Wick made, just for comparison. I kept thinking you were talking about Cell and why you were being so positive about it. I would pay to watch Jason Statham running around faking an American accent in Cell.
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Feb 3, 2021 19:02
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Isn't Sunshine the movie that starts as fairly serious sci fi and ends with a stupid sun zombie chasing everyone around? cause that sucked.
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Feb 3, 2021 19:33
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Gejimayu posted:Isn't Sunshine the movie that starts as fairly serious sci fi and ends with a stupid sun zombie chasing everyone around? cause that sucked. He wasn't a zombie, he was just a crazy rear end in a top hat who sabotaged and murdered to try and stop the missions.
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Feb 3, 2021 19:42
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Gejimayu posted:Isn't Sunshine the movie that starts as fairly serious sci fi and ends with a stupid sun zombie chasing everyone around? cause that sucked. No, not at all. It's the movie that ends with a loving wild turn where a cosmic terror with a religious devotion to the sun starts murdering everyone. It slaps.
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It's definitely the part of the movie people criticize the most though. It feels a lot more Event Horizon(another very good movie that maybe falls just short of greatness) than 2001. It's a jarring shift.
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Feb 3, 2021 20:01
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The flashing faces worked extremely well at unsettling me.
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Basebf555 posted:It's definitely the part of the movie people criticize the most though. It feels a lot more Event Horizon(another very good movie that maybe falls just short of greatness) than 2001. It's a jarring shift. Event Horizon still has the greatest "A person in authority realizes that they're in a horror movie" moment ever. "We're leaving. We will withdraw to minimum safe distance and then hit the Event Horizon with every single nuke we have on board. gently caress this ship."
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Feb 3, 2021 21:21
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Captain Monkey posted:Sunshine is way, way better than The Core, even if the premises are similarly stupid scientifically. The premise of Sunshine is not as dumb as the premise of the Core. And I love The Core too, so I'm not being mean. It's stupid as hell and it knows it is and it's great.
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Captain Monkey posted:That said, I love The Core, and I love DJ Qualls as the worst, dumbest hacker in the whole world. I don't know what it is, but I just feel like slapping DJ whenever I see him in something. He's probably a lovely guy but there's something about him that angers me. Well, "angers" is a strong word - I don't froth at the mouth or get a blood pressure spike. He just annoys me for reason I can't describe.
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VideoGames posted:It is definitely one of my most favourite Chris Evans' roles and I hope he likes it. I remember reading an article a while ago about all his roles before the MCU and he says there is one he absolutely detests and I have always been trying to figure out which one it was. Maybe Johnny Storm? I really hope it's not The Losers. That's the first role of his I saw him in that I loved him in. The whole bit with him gaining entrance into the building through social engineering and his escape had me laughing so loving hard and I still use some of the lines from that bit. Edit: Also I just rewatched The Core and it's still a fun romp that I in no way recommend people on any kind of "It's a good movie" level.
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Baba Yaga Fanboy posted:DJ Qualls running around screaming "It's the whales! The whales!" at the end of the core is one of the most gloriously stupid moments in film history and I could watch it on repeat forever His phreaking with bubblegum wrapper was cringey as gently caress.
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Feb 4, 2021 09:46
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Gejimayu posted:Isn't Sunshine the movie that starts as fairly serious sci fi and ends with a stupid sun zombie chasing everyone around? cause that sucked. It's like that Futurama episode where Leela keeps insisting that Fry has ocean madness, but in space. Both well documented phenomena.
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Baron von Eevl posted:No, not at all. It's the movie that ends with a loving wild turn where a cosmic terror with a religious devotion to the sun starts murdering everyone. It slaps. I loving love Sunshine and this is one of the reasons why. More wild tone shifts in movies please.
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I don't know if it was pointed out here, or if I made the connection myself, but in Silence of the Lambs, talking about the case with Clarice is what helps Lecter escape - without talking in detail about how the case re. Buffalo Bill, he wouldn't have gotten the idea to remove the guard's face and thus being mistaken for him.
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Feb 4, 2021 13:29
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Samovar posted:I don't know if it was pointed out here, or if I made the connection myself, but in Silence of the Lambs, talking about the case with Clarice is what helps Lecter escape - without talking in detail about how the case re. Buffalo Bill, he wouldn't have gotten the idea to remove the guard's face and thus being mistaken for him. Things to be revisited in the upcoming TV series.
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Humphreys posted:Things to be revisited in the upcoming TV series. Nope. That show only has the rights to Clarice and not to the character Hannibal, so they can’t feature or reference him at all.
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fartknocker posted:Nope. That show only has the rights to Clarice and not to the character Hannibal, so they can’t feature or reference him at all. The fact that the rights to Clarice and Hannibal are separate is probably the most insane media rights snarl I've ever heard of. That's right up there with the baffling amount of companies that would need to okay a remaster of the N64 Goldeneye.
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Didn't Lector see Jamie Gumb as a patient a few times? He just as likely gave Gumb the idea to skin his victims.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Didn't Lector see Jamie Gumb as a patient a few times? the whole plot of the movie is contingent on lecter already knowing everything about gumb before the movie starts
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Cleretic posted:The fact that the rights to Clarice and Hannibal are separate is probably the most insane media rights snarl I've ever heard of. That's right up there with the baffling amount of companies that would need to okay a remaster of the N64 Goldeneye. Not sure if that tops all the different companies that hold certain rights to the Wizard of Oz. The stage performance of Wicked has the actor wearing silver shoes that are then followed by a red spotlight to create the "ruby red slippers" because getting the rights to use them in performance after performance would be stupidly expensive. EDIT: It's also one of the things that made Return to Oz in 1985 cost so much, Disney paid out the rear end to be able to use ruby red slippers in the movie. Pope Corky the IX has a new favorite as of 15:08 on Feb 4, 2021 |
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Not sure if that tops all the different companies that hold certain rights to the Wizard of Oz. The stage performance of Wicked has the actor wearing silver shoes that are then followed by a red spotlight to create the "ruby red slippers" because getting the rights to use them in performance after performance would be stupidly expensive. That's hilarious, because in the book the slippers are silver already. The movie made them red to show off the Technicolor technology more, and that idea just stuck.
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Soysaucebeast posted:That's hilarious, because in the book the slippers are silver already. The movie made them red to show off the Technicolor technology more, and that idea just stuck. I don't know if the Wicked Witch was green in the books, but I do know that every time Disney's tried to make something that uses her, they use the closest shade of green they can get that's still legally distinct from the one in the original movie.
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Feb 4, 2021 15:23
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Krispy Wafer posted:Didn't Lector see Jamie Gumb as a patient a few times? No, he never actually met him. Lector knew about him because he was a friend of one of Lector's patients.
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CainFortea posted:I really hope it's not The Losers. That's the first role of his I saw him in that I loved him in. It's a shame the shooting scene was in the trailer. It definitely needed to be to sell the movie, but that would have been a great moment blind. Cleretic posted:I don't know if the Wicked Witch was green in the books, but I do know that every time Disney's tried to make something that uses her, they use the closest shade of green they can get that's still legally distinct from the one in the original movie. She wasn't. Like the shoes they chose it because it looked good in color. The movie is completely responsible for witches being green in popular culture.
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Since Marvel took a lot of liberties with who was related to who in Norse mythology, would the same issue occur if you wanted to make a movie with Thor and Loki as brothers or do the rules just cover visual imagery? Like if Disney gave Chris Hemsworth a Bob Ross fro instead of straight hair?
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Loki is referred to as the son of Odin in some variations of the Norse mythology. But there’s a lot of changes and alterations of relations in those mythologies in general.
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I think it's easy to make a movie or whatever about Norse mythical figures Thor and Loki. The closer your story gets to the Marvel "these guys are aliens, Thor is blonde and wears a cape, Loki is a literal supervillain. They hang out with a large green man named Hulk" the more likely they are to sue and then it's up to a court to determine if you crossed a line. Just making them brothers would probably not be close enough for Disney to win a suit but courts make stupid decisions all the time so who knows.
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Anime can be up there for legal clusterfucks due to dubbing companies not giving a poo poo, especially if merchandise is involved- see the Macross/Battletech Gordian Knot that has both anime and tabletop wargame fans cursing the name of Harmony Gold. Also, pretty much anything from the 90s with licensed music, see Daria.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Anime can be up there for legal clusterfucks due to dubbing companies not giving a poo poo, especially if merchandise is involved- see the Macross/Battletech Gordian Knot that has both anime and tabletop wargame fans cursing the name of Harmony Gold. https://jojowiki.com/List_of_Stands#Vento_Aureo
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