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Pick posted:https://twitter.com/cam_joseph/status/1357152699196792834?s=20 I think Biden is doing well enough in this early part to work to solidify or throw Bernie’s side a bone. Of course it’s only been like 2 weeks. I feel somewhat optimistic.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The United States' own intelligence assessment has downgraded it to a "Flawed Democracy" https://thehill.com/homenews/news/537204-us-score-falls-in-economists-2020-democracy-index 
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Mafic Rhyolite posted:I'm talking about post-secondary too. In what way are U.S. post-secondary schools PTSD factories that destroy most people who go through them? Who does non-PTSD education? Because the U.S. ranks #1 in the world in outcomes and satisfaction from college and post-grad education.
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Gatts posted:I think Biden is doing well enough in this early part to work to solidify or throw Bernie’s side a bone. Of course it’s only been like 2 weeks. I feel somewhat optimistic. I would really like to know how Biden suddenly decided to make this left turn in his administration. Was this something he said he’d do all along or what?
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:They gained seats in the house, gained seats in state legislatures, and were 65,000 votes away from the presidency in an election where 158,000,000 people voted. Same, I remember back in 2008 when the Republican Party was completely routed, at least at the federal level even worse than the Democratic Party was in 2016. The Republican Party will endure, cultural/class ingroup solidarity is everything to these people. That's why they didn't make much of a stink when Trump briefly wanted to buy controlling stakes in companies saved in the first stimulus package. The GOP doesn't have ideals, they have ingroup signaling memes. Kraftwerk posted:Now it becomes clear why Bernie was quick to concede this time. I can’t imagine Hilary ever having done these things. If it was something he'd do all along, pissing us off here on the Left certainly helped make him look moderate to the normies. The Right would always and forever screech about his being Communist no matter what he did, but if we hate him he musn't be that bad, right?
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Kraftwerk posted:I would really like to know how Biden suddenly decided to make this left turn in his administration. Was this something he said he’d do all along or what? Yes. He's doing a lot of what he said and being who he said he would be, which is kind of a placeholder and avatar. the biden presidency is WAY different from what I was expecting, at least so far.
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skylined! posted:Take solace in the fact that gaetz are poo poo today. I wonder if the vote being that far in favor of Cheney is what wakes up the rest of the GOP that they don’t have to cower to trumps rhetoric anymore? Also, did it make Gaetz and Jordan sweat a little to see they couldn’t whisper about the gestapo and have people quake in fear?
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Kraftwerk posted:Now it becomes clear why Bernie was quick to concede this time. I can’t imagine Hilary ever having done these things. I think winning the house and senate really allowed him to. He’s been suggested for and ran for President so many times maybe at this stage he wants to do the right thing and leave a better legacy than something like the crime bill or supporting segregated bussing.
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Kraftwerk posted:Now it becomes clear why Bernie was quick to concede this time. I can’t imagine Hilary ever having done these things. He did say he'd do most of this stuff. People are just surprised he's doing it. E.g. he promised to be the "most pro-union president ever". Also, and this is really key, he's not running any more. This is the apex of the thing. If he hid (whatever) this long, now what's done is done. He's the President, he got the Thing. If it had turned out he hated Delaware this whole time, for example, he could just say that now.
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Mafic Rhyolite posted:The American education system does not function as adequate representation for the entire concept of education. There is no "American education system" you putz. State to state, district to district you get massive absurd variety. But by all means go off.
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Well, I'm both surprised and glad to be wrong and to see the GOP Trumpist Wing eat a little poo poo on that party vote.
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Mafic Rhyolite posted:Yeah all those teachers from "inspirational" (read: dystopian) stories where they have to get a second or third job in order to provide the basic needs for educating their classes are not the people who get any real say in the overall structure of the system, it seems kind of absurd to me to even act like they have any real power in the systemic issues of American education at all. A lot of vague nothing with a not really explained "you are privliged!!!" cherry on top. Hot loving stuff mate. Also being a somethingawful poster, you are probably like 40 years old and talking about something in your rear view mirror upwards of 20 years ago lol.
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Just really weird how that Jim Jordan tweet that said "don't defund cops, defund teachers instead" somehow got people onto a multi-page argument saying "actually American education sucks, he's right"
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Abandoned Toaster posted:I present Illinois' 4th Congressional district: That one definitely looks like it was generated by a computer using the hard-core gently caress minorities setting
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Data Graham posted:Just really weird how that Jim Jordan tweet that said "don't defund cops, defund teachers instead" somehow got people onto a multi-page argument saying "actually American education sucks, he's right" At least it's not the "drunk driving is good actually" derail again. 
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DeeplyConcerned posted:That one definitely looks like it was generated by a computer using the hard-core gently caress minorities setting And yet, as posted earlier, that district is held by a Latino labor activist.
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DeeplyConcerned posted:That one definitely looks like it was generated by a computer using the hard-core gently caress minorities setting It's specifically a Hispanic majority district to ensure equal representation.
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Data Graham posted:Just really weird how that Jim Jordan tweet that said "don't defund cops, defund teachers instead" somehow got people onto a multi-page argument saying "actually American education sucks, he's right"
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Deteriorata posted:It's specifically a Hispanic majority district to ensure equal representation. Does that mean it was packed instead of cracked?
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skylined! posted:Take solace in the fact that gaetz are poo poo today. That's what Gaetz sounds like? loving florida surfer brah.
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:They gained seats in the house, gained seats in state legislatures, and were 65,000 votes away from the presidency in an election where 158,000,000 people voted. 2020 is not the only Trump election. Republicans had 54 senators and 247 representatives before Trump. The post I quoted was claiming that Republicans are successful because they turn out their base and swing voters don't exist, after two successive elections where the Republicans lost every branch of elected government due in part to former Republican voters changing parties.
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eggyolk posted:Does that mean it was packed instead of cracked? Packed on purpose because of a court case.
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Deteriorata posted:It's specifically a Hispanic majority district to ensure equal representation. It's funny that our congressional districts are so gerrymandered that they have to counter-gerrymander to get some minority representation. I can't imagine anything more American. Making districts fairly and apolitically would just be too easy, I reckon.
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LeeMajors posted:It's funny that our congressional districts are so gerrymandered that they have to counter-gerrymander to get some minority representation. People with common political interests don't necessarily share the same geographical area. Fair representation can necessitate strangely shaped districts. Districting can also be used to suppress minority representation. The shape of the district has no bearing whatsoever on the demographic fairness of the district. In conclusion, congressional redistricting is a land of contrasts.
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LeeMajors posted:It's funny that our congressional districts are so gerrymandered that they have to counter-gerrymander to get some minority representation. It's actually illegal under the VRA IIRC to *not* have majority-minority districts, so this is actually somewhat difficult. I'm sure someone else knows the specifics.
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Pick posted:https://twitter.com/cam_joseph/status/1357152699196792834?s=20 drat  Biden keeps doing good things.
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LeeMajors posted:It's funny that our congressional districts are so gerrymandered that they have to counter-gerrymander to get some minority representation. It's actually really, really hard and fivethirtyeight did a big thing on it back when we thought the SC might rule gerrymandering illegal (hah!) https://fivethirtyeight.com/tag/the-gerrymandering-project/#main
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Deteriorata posted:People with common political interests don't necessarily share the same geographical area. Fair representation can necessitate strangely shaped districts. Oh totally. We aren’t disagreeing at all. It’s just a funny concept that the solution to whitewashed gerrymandered districts is to gerrymander another district to create representation when the goal should be fair districting in the first loving place. Charleston (SC-1) is super fun because they’ve surgically cut the poorest and blackest areas out of Charleston county and lumped them into SC-6 (Clyburn’s safe district in the ‘corridor of shame), while narrowly slicing the whitest bumfuck areas and suburbs into SC-1, which still remains somewhat competitive for Dems like Cunningham. Without it, 1 and 6 would almost always be held by Dems. ——————— Also to the others I didn’t mean to imply it’s super easy to make fair districts—I misspoke there. More that the tortured back and forth of gerrymander and counter-gerrymander is insane in purpose and overwrought solution when it should be reworked top down. It’ll never happen though. LeeMajors fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Feb 4, 2021 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:How big of a coward do you have to be to vote 'present' on a secret ballot? That name is Kevin McCarthy.
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FlamingLiberal posted:How big of a coward do you have to be to vote 'present' on a secret ballot? Cheney was too polite to vote yes or no 
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FlamingLiberal posted:How big of a coward do you have to be to vote 'present' on a secret ballot?
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teacher_man posted:the biden presidency is WAY different from what I was expecting, at least so far. It's suspicious as hell, is what it is.
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Byzantine posted:It's suspicious as hell, is what it is. In what way is it suspicious?
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TulliusCicero posted:A "cold sweat?"...From K-12 PTSD? Are you okay? Do you know what a thoroughly hostile school environment can do to people? Like all the suicides? Children are subjected to environments that make WWI trench veterans double take. (and hell, at least they knew there were people on the same side)
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Kraftwerk posted:Now it becomes clear why Bernie was quick to concede this time. I can’t imagine Hilary ever having done these things. I think part of it is the stuff that happened between his nomination and inauguration, especially post-election. Some of the poo poo the Republicans came at him with was truly vile (Hunter Biden stuff in particular) and I think the very fact he's well-known as a guy who you can meet in the middle and work out some bipartisan stuff with has actually helped him see that the Republicans are truly off the rails as well. Biden does not have a reputation as either a radical or a hardliner, so the fact the GOP is treating him as if he was Lenin himself has probably hardened any suspicions he had about their intentions. Other possible factors is that (while he might not be willing to go as far as leftists like us believe necessary) he does appreciate that the US and the world are facing some pretty loving hefty crises that need some serious action to deal with, and/or that he's had some serious talks with the Progressive wing of the party and either been convinced they have good ideas or been convinced the Progressive wing needs more than just token concessions (Or both).
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skylined! posted:Take solace in the fact that gaetz are poo poo today. Holy poo poo that is not what I thought he would sound like...I guess I’ve never ever heard this guy talk before
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It's interesting to think about if going after him on such a personal level and the propaganda surrounding it made Biden narrow his eyes and let his heart be hardened. It must be a bit of a shock to work with people for decades and then see them without skipping a beat campaign against you like you're literally Satan.
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