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achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Junpei Hyde posted:

I believe NXT still contains rapists
It does and is partially why I finally just got broke from watching wrestling

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Mr Phillby
Apr 8, 2009

~TRAVIS~
Oh gently caress don't bring up Ayn Rand in this thread lol.

I actually think the 'throw away your family to become a full time GoT larper in literally the woods' is an amazing comic and thats exactly why I wish Zen Pencils had continued. Theres a really good parody out there that swaps GoT for super mario but the original has a subtlety I really appreciate.

The 'myazaki boards a giant mech to write the word 'ART' on the moon to own this ugly blob monster that blatantly represents my critics' storyline was also top tier.

Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013




achillesforever6 posted:

It does and is partially why I finally just got broke from watching wrestling

I am a fan of AEW personally

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Bug Squash posted:

With all the bummer stories about wrestling, here's the story of Sputnik Monroe, who built a heel gimmick out of fighting racism.

Make a movie about this guy!

Violet_Sky
Dec 5, 2011



Fun Shoe
I used to like Zen Pencils because it was something positive and uplifting online. I should have known better. :smith:

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Mr Phillby posted:

My opinion is that the man himself was awful but the character of the milk drinking wholesome muscleman powered by positive kid energy was good and cool. I think I like wrestlers more when they're just unashamedly being childrens entertainers.

If anyone doubts his commitment to at least appearing to care about his young fans please watch this video which is a heartfelt tribute to a literal dead child sung by Hulk Hogan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9JfhANM9B0

That's pretty much how I feel on him too, 'Hulk Hogan' the big superman BROTHER BROTHER is cool and fun, Terry Hogan the guy might have some human decency which puts him ahead of UW, but he's still a weird racist, union wrecking douche.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Terry Bollea even claimed in the Gawker lawsuit that whenever he's in some public forum he's Hulk Hogan and statements he makes there cannot be applied to the person Terry Bollea.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Groovelord Neato posted:

Terry Bollea even claimed in the Gawker lawsuit that whenever he's in some public forum he's Hulk Hogan and statements he makes there cannot be applied to the person Terry Bollea.

That's the same problem in people who try and do the separate the character and the person thing for UW, the guy legally changed his name to Warrior, he said all his rancid things being 'Warrior', there's no longer a line between him and character.

JordanKai
Aug 19, 2011

Get high and think of me.


Bug Squash posted:

With all the bummer stories about wrestling, here's the story of Sputnik Monroe, who built a heel gimmick out of fighting racism.

This rules.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

While it's not exactly a wrestling story and some more of his life is sad, Perry Saturn was an army ranger (Or at least he passed the entire rough rear end course to be a graduate) turned full time wrestler, who in the early 2000's also stopped two guys from raping a lady, wherein he got shot twice "to which he originally thought he had received a punch, as a result of the scuffle."

Big ole beefman

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Macho Man you left us too soon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMbcOC5dS5k

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

Mr Phillby posted:

Oh gently caress don't bring up Ayn Rand in this thread lol.

I actually think the 'throw away your family to become a full time GoT larper in literally the woods' is an amazing comic and thats exactly why I wish Zen Pencils had continued. Theres a really good parody out there that swaps GoT for super mario but the original has a subtlety I really appreciate.

The 'myazaki boards a giant mech to write the word 'ART' on the moon to own this ugly blob monster that blatantly represents my critics' storyline was also top tier.

I was thinking about trying to dig up the Mario parody one, which I think Gigi D.G. did, but iirc last time I wanted to find it for a laugh it was deleted and I couldn't find a good copy.


The Miyazaki one was amazing in the way something can be when you have the realization that you're looking at something dumb that someone put out with a 100% sincere belief they were doing something brilliant. I certainly respect the audacity of it at least.

Plus, we got a good Chainsawsuit page out of it:

https://chainsawsuit.com/comic/2014/03/21/a-response-to-zen-pencils/

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Terrible Opinions posted:

Sorry the Bible says the Cyrus and Xerxes were good kings, therefore Persian wars are justified.

this always brings up a funny point. like the Achaemenid Empire were way more "western" (by our 21st century standards sorta but thats a whole other kettle of fish) than the greeks/Hellenistic's were at the time. like yeah athens had the thought and early democracy but the persians had an actual massive and well run bureaucratic empire empire with mostly religious tolerations. i know its mostly because alot of conservatives are dumb assholes and probably thought the persians were evil super muslims or some poo poo. like the whole persian war actually is interesting as a story and such. but every book about it tries to turn it into "the day THE WEST was saved from the horde" when its more like a weird diplmatic miscomunications turned into a "gently caress it lets just take them as a new territory" and then "oh poo poo they are actually good at fighting, this poo poo aint worth it".



Forgall posted:

He's a true inspiration.



i laughed harder than i should have.

Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Feb 4, 2021

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Junpei Hyde posted:

I am a fan of AEW personally
I like AEW too, but like COVID took things out of watching wrestling; the crowd makes up for a ton of it; I also don't have cable and most of my time is just surfing the web and doing socialist organizing

Dapper_Swindler posted:

this always brings up a funny point. like the Achaemenid Empire were way more "western" (by our 21st century standards sorta but thats a whole other kettle of fish) than the greeks/Hellenistic's were at the time. like yeah athens had the thought and early democracy but the persians had an actual massive and well run bureaucratic empire empire with mostly religious tolerations. i know its mostly because alot of conservatives are dumb assholes and probably thought the persians were evil super muslims or some poo poo. like the whole persian war actually is interesting as a story and such. but every book about it tries to turn it into "the day THE WEST was saved from the horde" when its more like a weird diplmatic miscomunications turned into a "gently caress it lets just take them as a new territory" and then "oh poo poo they are actually good at fighting, this poo poo aint worth it".
That and iirc the Achaemenid Empire was anti-Slavery

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



that explains why conservatives hate them.

fancy stats
Sep 9, 2009

A man's man, wears a lot of denim, tells long stories and has oatmeal saved from this morning.

sure, but those white statues look like us, sooo

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

There was this youtuber called Stryder7x who made really good Paper Mario content. he stopped posting about a year ago and I didn't notice. Turns out that it came out that he was an abuser. The exact allegations have been deleted but judging by the replies it was pretty bad. drat.

Depressing Box
Jun 27, 2010

Half-price sideshow.

Nuns with Guns posted:

I was thinking about trying to dig up the Mario parody one, which I think Gigi D.G. did, but iirc last time I wanted to find it for a laugh it was deleted and I couldn't find a good copy.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Groovelord Neato posted:

Terry Bollea even claimed in the Gawker lawsuit that whenever he's in some public forum he's Hulk Hogan and statements he makes there cannot be applied to the person Terry Bollea.

Which included, no lie, the size of his penis. The Hulkster has the ten-inch wang, not Terry Bollea who I guess is all about the motion in the ocean.

Yardbomb posted:

While it's not exactly a wrestling story and some more of his life is sad, Perry Saturn was an army ranger (Or at least he passed the entire rough rear end course to be a graduate) turned full time wrestler, who in the early 2000's also stopped two guys from raping a lady, wherein he got shot twice "to which he originally thought he had received a punch, as a result of the scuffle."

Another one is Dr. Death Steve Williams and Rick Steiner saving a motorist trapped inside a burning wreck while on their way between towns, although as this was Mid-South run by Bill Watts kayfabe had to be kept under pain of Watts they only celebrated Williams for it because Steiner was a heel at the time with Eddie Gilbert.

Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Feb 5, 2021

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

Thank you so much for this. I'll never let it out of my sight again.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

Ariong posted:

There was this youtuber called Stryder7x who made really good Paper Mario content. he stopped posting about a year ago and I didn't notice. Turns out that it came out that he was an abuser. The exact allegations have been deleted but judging by the replies it was pretty bad. drat.

Goddamnit I liked his videos. What the gently caress is up so many people of even moderate profile in the speed running community being colossal pieces of poo poo?

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

Sydin posted:

Goddamnit I liked his videos. What the gently caress is up so many people of even moderate profile in the speed running community being colossal pieces of poo poo?

i think its a lot like all the horrible poo poo that surfaced about smash pros recently. all these nerdy guys toiling away in obscurity for decades suddenly becoming popular and earning social currency for the first time and it drives them insane

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

I don’t think Stryder7x’s online presence enabled the abuse in any way. Unlike many online personalities whose scandals involve them preying on or taking advantage of their fans in some way, the allegations against Stryder seem to be largely unrelated to his online presence.

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains

Great.

This just reminds me of how much I miss comics like Hiimdaisy though.

DeafNote fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Feb 5, 2021

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

Bakeneko posted:

This shouldn’t have come as a surprise after he raped Santa, honestly.

Great, now I have the "let the ultimate warrior squirt all over your children" from the Ultimate Warrior bath squirt head thing in my head. It has been what, a decade at this point?

Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?
This was his response. People in the replies are not kind to him.

https://twitter.com/Stryder7x/status/1243747152129478656

I should probably specify a CW for the imgur album. Some pretty bad stuff there.

Kaiser Mazoku fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Feb 5, 2021

Violet_Sky
Dec 5, 2011



Fun Shoe
Speaking of similar stuff, ProJared is innocent, right?

egg tats
Apr 3, 2010

Violet_Sky posted:

Speaking of similar stuff, ProJared is innocent, right?

no he still actively and openly solicited his fans nudes, then cheated on his wife

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

With all the info that's come out, it sounds like ProJared was a huge creep because even if they were 18+ he was still running a private little tumblr thing for him and his fans to "safely share with each other" and whatever, his wife had some big ole issues and probably needed/needs help but apparently on and off kept telling him that going outside their marriage was a thing and he could and it was hot and then it wasn't and he's a cheat and you're with X or Y aren't you and then couldn't decide, Ross's wife was an unrepentant cheat just because and then Ross was just left being the sole innocent person of all their poo poo.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

Kaiser Mazoku posted:

This was his response. People in the replies are not kind to him.

https://twitter.com/Stryder7x/status/1243747152129478656

I should probably specify a CW for the imgur album. Some pretty bad stuff there.

They... they seem pretty kind to him? I scrolled through a ton of replies to that tweet and almost entirely people saying "sorry you have to deal with false accusations" or "now that I've seen both sides this looks a lot more like a toxic relationship that eventually blew up vs you being an abuser." :shrug:

idk, to be honest I'm not invested enough in the drama to read through the gigantic imgur album he made to prove his innocence to see if it's just a bunch of people reflexively jumping to back the youtube guy they like or not. And whatever the case it appears to have completely derailed Stryder's online presence as he hasn't made a tweet or video for close to a year now.

Violet_Sky posted:

Speaking of similar stuff, ProJared is innocent, right?

Insofar as being a pedophile, I think so yeah. It came out that the two girls who accused him of soliciting nudes when they were underage either lied to him about their age or just never bothered to mention it, so it wasn't some active pedophile thing like it was originally portrayed. As for the rest, he's still kind of a creep who traded nudes with a bunch of female fans while still being married, and AFAIK his only defense for that has been "yeah well here are some emails between me and my lawyer from that time proving I was trying to divorce her, so it's not really cheating" which :yikes:

Violet_Sky
Dec 5, 2011



Fun Shoe
Didn't Projared's wife also cheat with some Game Grumps dude?

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
Other way around - Projared cheated on his wife with Ross' at-the-time wife Holly.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Sydin posted:

Other way around - Projared cheated on his wife with Ross' at-the-time wife Holly.

oh yeah, the bird lady.



Yardbomb posted:

With all the info that's come out, it sounds like ProJared was a huge creep because even if they were 18+ he was still running a private little tumblr thing for him and his fans to "safely share with each other" and whatever, his wife had some big ole issues and probably needed/needs help but apparently on and off kept telling him that going outside their marriage was a thing and he could and it was hot and then it wasn't and he's a cheat and you're with X or Y aren't you and then couldn't decide, Ross's wife was an unrepentant cheat just because and then Ross was just left being the sole innocent person of all their poo poo.

yeah. it sounds like jared was a gross rear end in a top hat but it was technically an "open" thing and the wife was "fine" with it until she wasn't.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Dapper_Swindler posted:

yeah. it sounds like jared was a gross rear end in a top hat but it was technically an "open" thing and the wife was "fine" with it until she wasn't.

That combined with the bit how whichever fan of his was not, in fact, under 18 sort of relegates him to being garden variety awful. I mean, I'm still happy to have unsubbed from his YouTube channel and all, don't get me wrong.

Jamie Faith
Jan 13, 2020

Violet_Sky posted:

Speaking of similar stuff, ProJared is innocent, right?

Absolutely not. He still used his fame as an E celeb to take advantage of his young fanbase with his "Send nudes!...haha just joking!!!.....unless?" shtick. He's a loving creep.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Dawgstar posted:

That combined with the bit how whichever fan of his was not, in fact, under 18 sort of relegates him to being garden variety awful. I mean, I'm still happy to have unsubbed from his YouTube channel and all, don't get me wrong.

same. apperently he has gotten more chuddy least from what i heard. idk.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Being a minor celebrity and dealing with dating sounds like a loving horrible nightmare

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
^That's why they usually date other minor celebrities or people who aren't fans if they don't want drama.

It was just a tweet from Jenny at the time, but I liked her take to imagine the shitstorm if a popular singer had run a community for his fans to share nudes and then tried to write it off as "hey, I put 18+ only, how could I have known?" Like, it's probably not hard illegal but it's still super weird and creepy and would have been a big career hit. Just because the person is YouTube famous versus regular famous doesn't really change it.

Jamie Faith
Jan 13, 2020

Also yikes a roo

https://twitter.com/LilySimpson1312/status/1357650047383400448

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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Dawgstar posted:

That combined with the bit how whichever fan of his was not, in fact, under 18 sort of relegates him to being garden variety awful. I mean, I'm still happy to have unsubbed from his YouTube channel and all, don't get me wrong.

Am I right to imagine that most youtube channels would skew young in their viewership? Were I a youtube person I would definitely keep thinking about the percentage of my audience that is under 18, and also about how much older I am than 18. Like even if you're making people send you photos of their ID before they post nude photos of themselves on your weblog, you're still having a pretty terrible effect on everyone else who's watching you do it.

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