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Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

achillesforever6 posted:

Like again he's better than Pat Toomey and if push comes to shove I'll vote for him over the Rep ghoul that runs for it, but just don't want folks to think he's a leftier Bernie (what was funny in that endorsement hearing is he claimed he was calling himself a democratic socialist before Bernie)

yeah, it's loving PA

he owns on social media and has been a mainstay on msnbc for the last two months, legal weed, and actually care about the people he governs as far as I can tell

terrible situation, hopefully we can do better

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The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan
The question isn’t is he better then pat toomey, it’s is he gonna be better then the other dems tripping over themselves for the nomination for that seat. That’s yet tbd

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004

The Nastier Nate posted:

The question isn’t is he better then pat toomey, it’s is he gonna be better then the other dems tripping over themselves for the nomination for that seat. That’s yet tbd

looking at the layout of the pa dem party

probably

i imagine his competitors will be ghouls like nutter or maybe even kenny. i imagine shapiro and wolf have already let him know they ain’t running and shapiro will go for gov

who knows tho. maybe well get some good smaller local pols

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

looking at the layout of the pa dem party

probably

i imagine his competitors will be ghouls like nutter or maybe even kenny. i imagine shapiro and wolf have already let him know they ain’t running and shapiro will go for gov

who knows tho. maybe well get some good smaller local pols

Shapiro for governor is a lock, dudes been eyeing the governors mansion since he was my state rep, but i think some of centrist house members might make a go at the senate. I think Nutter looked into it in 2016 and passed, i dont imagine he would try now.

Brendan Boyle? Madeline Dean? Connor Lamb?

Brian Fitzpatrick on the GOP side.

Comedy Option: Joe Sestak

I think the best chance dems have to not get blown out is Shapiro for gov, fetterman for senate ticket as it's something for everyone and will bump up turnout

The Alpha Centauri
Feb 15, 2019

Bigly Fett would have been better against toomey than mcginty 16' but PA Dems dumb and sestek should have just done another term or two as congressman

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



kenney is a horrifically bad mayor and i think he'd potentially lose a senate/gov election

dude has done fuckall for the city, let police attack blm protestors, took too long to cave in getting the rizzo statue down (and afaik they were just gonna relocate it), and to my awareness is basically just owned by the mob unions

never mind how horrific the school system is and it feels like they've barely tried to do a loving thing at all

in short, gently caress him

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



it isn't exclusive to him either. most of the philly politicians are dogshit and despite being a cool place the city is completely hosed if and when covid and the dying economy kill off most of the businesses for good

makes me really sad

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:

triple sulk posted:

kenney is a horrifically bad mayor and i think he'd potentially lose a senate/gov election

dude has done fuckall for the city, let police attack blm protestors, took too long to cave in getting the rizzo statue down (and afaik they were just gonna relocate it), and to my awareness is basically just owned by the mob unions

never mind how horrific the school system is and it feels like they've barely tried to do a loving thing at all

in short, gently caress him

Kenney is beyond scared of any actual conflict and is just all around a giant wuss. No one actually likes him and he somehow thought that hiring a new police chief who actively colluded with white supremacists was a good idea

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Plinkey posted:

actually care about the people he governs as far as I can tell

lol no he clearly doesn’t

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

Those stories now make the tattoos sound sociopathic.

the yeti
Mar 29, 2008

memento disco



achillesforever6 posted:

As someone who was at his Pittsburgh DSA endorsement hearing for Lt Governor in 2017 you will find the opposite to be the case (the hearing was recorded, but it's one of those OPSEC things that I would have to work on editing it to protect comrades identities) Anyway it was pretty much a shitshow because Fetterman for all his good social media presence is a very style over substance politician.

The big things are that as Mayor of Braddock he tried to gentrify it and profit from it by using his wife's non-profit as a way to attract businesses to set up shop in buildings the non-profit owned with promises that these businesses would offer training to like teens living in Braddock.

Said he was opposed to fracking, but did nothing as US Steel tried putting a fracking pad on the site of the Edgar Thompson Steel Building which was like 2 miles away from Braddock (thankfully the company they hired was so incompetent that in 2020 the plans finally fell through)

At our endorsement meeting he called abortion rights an “in the weeds” issue (When asked why he support/doesn't disavow anti-choice candidates)

In his campaign for lt. gov he used a petition to shutdown berks as a petition/listbuilding tactic, and now he is lt. gov and has neither gotten wolf to do this nor stirred poo poo about it.

There's this:
https://archive.triblive.com/news/braddock-mayor-says-hes-justified-in-pulling-shotgun-after-hearing-noise-like-gunshots/

He wrote an op-ed in the Post Gazette against trying to tax UPMC (the hellish "non-profit" Healthcare that owns 14% of Alleghany County) when they were closing Braddock Hospital. Supported Bernie in 2016 to help build his clout but wouldn't endorse him in 2020. Endorsed Paul Costa over Summer Lee (who we endorsed at that endorsement meeting).

Also he came from a well off family and basically built this working class look to build a persona that would get him elected and media; obviously it worked.

Finally, when we didn't endorse him (he tanked really bad at the hearing and did poo poo like when the other person asking for Lt Gov spoke to us he decided to stand directly behind her the entire time and this woman was like 5 5) shortly afterwards our free food pantry door was smashed and we were told we couldn't host it at this free store in Braddock we had it at; well that free store was owned by Fetterman's wife's Non-profit. Then we found that nowhere in Braddock would host it :thunk: (It's now near our HQ where the only vandalism that happened to it was from dipshit Maoists)

Anyway this is a really long post saying if you think Fetterman is the PA Bernie there are plenty of comrades in Pittsburgh that will point out a lot of bad flags with him. His only real selling point is he is better than Toomey (which isn't hard) and he wants legal weed. I think he's a jagoff, but he will probably win because people don't give a poo poo because he's good with social media in saying the right things that appeal to progressives and a lot of the bad stuff is fairly local to Pittsburgh.

this disappointment serves me right for getting even slightly invested in electoralism

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

:gas:

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

the yeti posted:

this disappointment serves me right for getting even slightly invested in electoralism

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

the yeti posted:

this disappointment serves me right for getting even slightly invested in electoralism

It’s disappointing for me too but despite all that I can’t think of a single democrat in Pennsylvania who would be more left then him and have any name recognition statewide unless like Larry krasner wanted to run

You don’t have to Stan fetterman but It’s not like holding your nose and voting for Clinton or Biden.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

The Nastier Nate posted:

unless like Larry krasner wanted to run


Larry Krasner sucks epic amounts of poo poo

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
drat guess we really can't have nice things

GonadTheBallbarian
Jul 23, 2007


the yeti posted:

this disappointment serves me right for getting even slightly invested in electoralism

Same. gently caress.

Grem
Mar 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 26 days!
Hey what if instead of thinking really hard about the criticism of John Fetterman we just turn on the guy who made us mad about him!?

gently caress you achillesforever6!

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

B-Rock452 posted:

Kenney is beyond scared of any actual conflict and is just all around a giant wuss. No one actually likes him and he somehow thought that hiring a new police chief who actively colluded with white supremacists was a good idea
Peduto ain't much better; guy decided after his appearence on Undercover Boss to actually grow a giant beard and from a friend of my he bumped into Bill at Cappy's (this bar in Oakland by Pitt) where he was drunk and turns out he has two phones with one dedicated to scrolling twitter.

He got in arguments with the local Anarchist collective that was shitposting demanding that he show his feet which culiminated in a 1 AM tweet from him that if they showed 10 pics proving they voted he would show his 10 toes. (he didn't because he is a coward!)

He also really really loving sucks pretending to be this progressive mayor of the "most livable city in America" where he does nothing about UPMC, tried selling out the city to get that Amazon HQ, and oh this just happened https://twitter.com/RyanDeto/status/1347695835514077184 (granted this maybe more the DA ratfucking him, but gently caress Peduto since he treated the BLM protestors like garbage regardless)


the yeti posted:

this disappointment serves me right for getting even slightly invested in electoralism
Local municipal elections seem way more meaningful in getting results and also way easier to hold people accountable when they gently caress up; the worst part of electoralism is just how much of a burnout viscous cycle it can feel like.

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

big guy biiiiiiiiiiiiiiig

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbpUfWz-rlc

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

achillesforever6 posted:

Peduto ain't much better; guy decided after his appearence on Undercover Boss to actually grow a giant beard and from a friend of my he bumped into Bill at Cappy's (this bar in Oakland by Pitt) where he was drunk and turns out he has two phones with one dedicated to scrolling twitter.

He got in arguments with the local Anarchist collective that was shitposting demanding that he show his feet which culiminated in a 1 AM tweet from him that if they showed 10 pics proving they voted he would show his 10 toes. (he didn't because he is a coward!)

He also really really loving sucks pretending to be this progressive mayor of the "most livable city in America" where he does nothing about UPMC, tried selling out the city to get that Amazon HQ, and oh this just happened https://twitter.com/RyanDeto/status/1347695835514077184 (granted this maybe more the DA ratfucking him, but gently caress Peduto since he treated the BLM protestors like garbage regardless)

Local municipal elections seem way more meaningful in getting results and also way easier to hold people accountable when they gently caress up; the worst part of electoralism is just how much of a burnout viscous cycle it can feel like.

wtf....is that bill peduto looks like?

can one of the pittsburgh goons call up the mayors office and tell him you cant have jet black hair with a santa claus beard

and you people voted for him?

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

The Nastier Nate posted:

wtf....is that bill peduto looks like?

can one of the pittsburgh goons call up the mayors office and tell him you cant have jet black hair with a santa claus beard

and you people voted for him?
https://twitter.com/princessjafar/status/1294995827312730113
I'm not kidding that he literally came up with growing a beard after wearing a fake one for a t-show

Mourne
Sep 1, 2004

by Athanatos

etalian posted:

Sheetz vs Wawa is a inflammatory topic similar to politics and religion (Wawa is better)

Wawa has the superior Italian sub, but the spicy chicken sandwich from sheetz is not be trifled with.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:

indigi posted:

Larry Krasner sucks epic amounts of poo poo

Yeah pretty much all he has actually done is cut all funding for victim services. I was assaulted and have a case going through the court that legit would have been thrown out if I didn't regularly check the court dockets for when my next hearing is. I once received. supeona that was literally sent a week after my hearing and he stopped giving victims parking or bus passes

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan
I don’t live in Philly anymore so I haven’t been following krasners career closely but I gauge my opinion of him on how much suburban chuds hate him. And let me tell you, suburban chuds absolutely hate Larry krasner far
More then your average democrat

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


achillesforever6 posted:

As someone who was at his Pittsburgh DSA endorsement hearing for Lt Governor in 2017 you will find the opposite to be the case (the hearing was recorded, but it's one of those OPSEC things that I would have to work on editing it to protect comrades identities) Anyway it was pretty much a shitshow because Fetterman for all his good social media presence is a very style over substance politician.

The big things are that as Mayor of Braddock he tried to gentrify it and profit from it by using his wife's non-profit as a way to attract businesses to set up shop in buildings the non-profit owned with promises that these businesses would offer training to like teens living in Braddock.

Said he was opposed to fracking, but did nothing as US Steel tried putting a fracking pad on the site of the Edgar Thompson Steel Building which was like 2 miles away from Braddock (thankfully the company they hired was so incompetent that in 2020 the plans finally fell through)

At our endorsement meeting he called abortion rights an “in the weeds” issue (When asked why he support/doesn't disavow anti-choice candidates)

In his campaign for lt. gov he used a petition to shutdown berks as a petition/listbuilding tactic, and now he is lt. gov and has neither gotten wolf to do this nor stirred poo poo about it.

There's this:
https://archive.triblive.com/news/braddock-mayor-says-hes-justified-in-pulling-shotgun-after-hearing-noise-like-gunshots/

He wrote an op-ed in the Post Gazette against trying to tax UPMC (the hellish "non-profit" Healthcare that owns 14% of Alleghany County) when they were closing Braddock Hospital. Supported Bernie in 2016 to help build his clout but wouldn't endorse him in 2020. Endorsed Paul Costa over Summer Lee (who we endorsed at that endorsement meeting).

Also he came from a well off family and basically built this working class look to build a persona that would get him elected and media; obviously it worked.

Finally, when we didn't endorse him (he tanked really bad at the hearing and did poo poo like when the other person asking for Lt Gov spoke to us he decided to stand directly behind her the entire time and this woman was like 5 5) shortly afterwards our free food pantry door was smashed and we were told we couldn't host it at this free store in Braddock we had it at; well that free store was owned by Fetterman's wife's Non-profit. Then we found that nowhere in Braddock would host it :thunk: (It's now near our HQ where the only vandalism that happened to it was from dipshit Maoists)

Anyway this is a really long post saying if you think Fetterman is the PA Bernie there are plenty of comrades in Pittsburgh that will point out a lot of bad flags with him. His only real selling point is he is better than Toomey (which isn't hard) and he wants legal weed. I think he's a jagoff, but he will probably win because people don't give a poo poo because he's good with social media in saying the right things that appeal to progressives and a lot of the bad stuff is fairly local to Pittsburgh.

good poo poo, thank you for Good Posting

(I am a foreigner so I have almost zero real productive awareness of the matter btw)

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:

The Nastier Nate posted:

I don’t live in Philly anymore so I haven’t been following krasners career closely but I gauge my opinion of him on how much suburban chuds hate him. And let me tell you, suburban chuds absolutely hate Larry krasner far
More then your average democrat

I will preface this by saying I have known him for several years but delcos new DA is pretty much the template for what a DA should be. He has set up a child abuse task force that focuses on getting services in place and involving more agencies in addressing stuff and has also really worked to end cash bail, not prosecute low level drug offenses but is also really working to involve victims in cases and has gotten heat for working out deals that seemed soft but he had spent time with the victim and offender to work on actual restorative justice principals. He has also held police accountable

Krasner legit hasnt done anything and whenever social justice activists call he hides in his office

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
Does Kenney really have state-wide ambitions? lmao everyone I've met, whether from north Philadelphia or one of the snobby places on the main line, hates his guts. And I can't imagine anyone in the rural areas going for the ex-mayor of Philadelphia.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

etalian posted:

Sheetz vs Wawa is a inflammatory topic similar to politics and religion (Wawa is better)
Sheetz is better because it's honestly for what it is; though now that I'm living in Pittsburgh proper I actually like Giant Eagle Get Goes more (Sheetz is too racist to want to have gas stations in the city; which is insane how much business they could do if they opened one up in like Oakland)

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004

im glad the delco da is good. the pics of the sad delco gop election night party in springfield in 2018 were great.

achillesforever6 posted:

Sheetz is better because it's honestly for what it is; though now that I'm living in Pittsburgh proper I actually like Giant Eagle Get Goes more (Sheetz is too racist to want to have gas stations in the city; which is insane how much business they could do if they opened one up in like Oakland)

wawa was like this for a while then their brand new center city location became by far their most profitable store so they relented and opened a bunch more.

The Demilich
Apr 9, 2020

The First Rites of Men Were Mortuary, the First Altars Tombs.



achillesforever6 posted:

As someone who was at his Pittsburgh DSA endorsement hearing for Lt Governor in 2017 you will find the opposite to be the case (the hearing was recorded, but it's one of those OPSEC things that I would have to work on editing it to protect comrades identities) Anyway it was pretty much a shitshow because Fetterman for all his good social media presence is a very style over substance politician.

The big things are that as Mayor of Braddock he tried to gentrify it and profit from it by using his wife's non-profit as a way to attract businesses to set up shop in buildings the non-profit owned with promises that these businesses would offer training to like teens living in Braddock.

Said he was opposed to fracking, but did nothing as US Steel tried putting a fracking pad on the site of the Edgar Thompson Steel Building which was like 2 miles away from Braddock (thankfully the company they hired was so incompetent that in 2020 the plans finally fell through)

At our endorsement meeting he called abortion rights an “in the weeds” issue (When asked why he support/doesn't disavow anti-choice candidates)

In his campaign for lt. gov he used a petition to shutdown berks as a petition/listbuilding tactic, and now he is lt. gov and has neither gotten wolf to do this nor stirred poo poo about it.

There's this:
https://archive.triblive.com/news/braddock-mayor-says-hes-justified-in-pulling-shotgun-after-hearing-noise-like-gunshots/

He wrote an op-ed in the Post Gazette against trying to tax UPMC (the hellish "non-profit" Healthcare that owns 14% of Alleghany County) when they were closing Braddock Hospital. Supported Bernie in 2016 to help build his clout but wouldn't endorse him in 2020. Endorsed Paul Costa over Summer Lee (who we endorsed at that endorsement meeting).

Also he came from a well off family and basically built this working class look to build a persona that would get him elected and media; obviously it worked.

Finally, when we didn't endorse him (he tanked really bad at the hearing and did poo poo like when the other person asking for Lt Gov spoke to us he decided to stand directly behind her the entire time and this woman was like 5 5) shortly afterwards our free food pantry door was smashed and we were told we couldn't host it at this free store in Braddock we had it at; well that free store was owned by Fetterman's wife's Non-profit. Then we found that nowhere in Braddock would host it :thunk: (It's now near our HQ where the only vandalism that happened to it was from dipshit Maoists)

Anyway this is a really long post saying if you think Fetterman is the PA Bernie there are plenty of comrades in Pittsburgh that will point out a lot of bad flags with him. His only real selling point is he is better than Toomey (which isn't hard) and he wants legal weed. I think he's a jagoff, but he will probably win because people don't give a poo poo because he's good with social media in saying the right things that appeal to progressives and a lot of the bad stuff is fairly local to Pittsburgh.


Well dang.

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

Slanderer posted:

remember when john fetterman chased down a black jogger and held a shotgun to his head because he thought he heard gunshots

edit: lmao did none of you even bother googling him??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cZ4x12Mb40

slanderer and shitposter

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
allow me to rebut the claims against mr. fetterman: bernie 2020 sucked and he was right to smell the fear on him, furthermore he was also right to clown on dsa idiots. thank you i yield my time. vote fetterman, he's the better man.

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan
have any other PA democrats announced (or hinted) at running for the senate seat? even with all his flaws I cant think of one other dem with the name recognition that Fetterman has, or isnt worse then him on almost every issue

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Judakel posted:

allow me to rebut the claims against mr. fetterman: bernie 2020 sucked and he was right to smell the fear on him, furthermore he was also right to clown on dsa idiots. thank you i yield my time. vote fetterman, he's the better man.

he sucks actually lol

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/witfnews/status/1358195024492699648

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

indigi posted:

he sucks actually lol

bold claim but probably dsa cointelpro

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004

lol kenny gave a huge portion philly covid vaccine supply and millions of dollars to a bunch of college students and they ran off with it

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NewPlayer
Apr 17, 2020


Does anyone know anybody from the campaign? Nichael and I need a job.

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