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Nalin posted:
What do you want, it's a gun manga, not a boat manga!
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# ? Feb 3, 2021 02:57 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 08:03 |
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Gunboat isekai next.
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# ? Feb 3, 2021 04:41 |
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:https://mangadex.org/title/52602/her-majesty-s-swarm If anyone is a j novel club member, this is on catchup (vol 1-3) this month. I haven't read it, but I recognized the name on their monthly thing
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# ? Feb 4, 2021 08:44 |
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Jackard posted:Gunboat isekai next. I just wanted Aircraft carrier isekai but then I realized what I actually wanted was John Birmingham's World War 2.0 series
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# ? Feb 4, 2021 13:01 |
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Speaking of which, are there any manga that focus on airships and/or floating islands?
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# ? Feb 4, 2021 15:12 |
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Gunnm and Soukuu no Ariadne
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# ? Feb 4, 2021 15:26 |
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I posted about these in the Wholesome thread, but now that MangaDex is back up I figured I'd crosspost here too:Onean posted:Here's those recommendations.
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# ? Feb 4, 2021 16:19 |
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Onean posted:
i caught up on both due to your recommendation, thanks. ( I was already reading sword saint)
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# ? Feb 4, 2021 16:44 |
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Onean posted:I posted about these in the Wholesome thread, but now that MangaDex is back up I figured I'd crosspost here too: I shall do the same then. Deathbound Duke's Daughter is an awesome one I rec from time to time. I have the first two LN's from Jnovel and they're very good. Her past life was very sad in a pestered by lovely assholes and rumor smeared kind of way which left her rather jaded on relationships so she's pretty dense thought it makes more sense than Bakarina if some ways given the context. The way I always describe is, Bakarina combined with GrimGrimoire for those familiar with the game with maybe a bit of Nancy Drew in the mix. The artwork is also super pretty for the LN.
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# ? Feb 4, 2021 16:49 |
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Isekai is like Junk Food. It's fun to read and even though I know it's not good I can't help but indulge because it's trashy and fun.
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# ? Feb 4, 2021 21:22 |
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Jackard posted:Speaking of which, are there any manga that focus on airships and/or floating islands? Asebi and The Adventurers of Sky World
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# ? Feb 4, 2021 21:34 |
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khy posted:Isekai is like Junk Food. It's fun to read and even though I know it's not good I can't help but indulge because it's trashy and fun. This is how I'm now following 200+ series (in my defense I think over half of them have quietly stopped updating).
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# ? Feb 4, 2021 21:58 |
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Jackard posted:Speaking of which, are there any manga that focus on airships and/or floating islands? Tenkuu no Shiro o Moratta no de Isekai de Tanoshiku Asobitai (I Want To Play Happily Because I Got The Heavenly Castle)
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# ? Feb 4, 2021 23:53 |
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that is a hell of an awkward pose, like what the hell is she even doing there
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# ? Feb 5, 2021 11:17 |
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She's trying to do the torture dance from jojo.
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# ? Feb 5, 2021 11:29 |
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Captain Invictus posted:that is a hell of an awkward pose, like what the hell is she even doing there
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# ? Feb 5, 2021 12:09 |
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Captain Invictus posted:that is a hell of an awkward pose, like what the hell is she even doing there Stumbling backwards.
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# ? Feb 5, 2021 12:19 |
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The problem with isekai is that majority of isekai that I’ve read would have been a lot better if they weren’t isekai. You don’t need the codified stats and the power fantasy removing all sense of challenge when you have an interesting world and plot!
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# ? Feb 5, 2021 13:15 |
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Just read The Way To Protect The Female Lead's Brother and it left such an impression on me that I felt I had to share it. And it's definitely not wholesome. Basically it's a villainess reincarnation story, except in this case the setting is that there's a family of, like, supervillains? They're all psychopaths with superpowers, because all the children are raised to ruthlessly plot against each other until only the strongest/smartest/most villainous survive. Anyway, in the original story they are eventually destroyed by the opposing heroic and noble family that the the heroine is from, so when our lead reincarnates as a daughter of the villainous family she tries to avoid that by preventing the tragedy that started it all: when her family kills the heroine's older brother who they kidnapped. Anyway, none of that is really why I found it interesting. What's interesting is the fact that the lead is actually like a real villainess? The stuff about the "original story" rarely comes up, and at this point she doesn't even seem to care about it anymore. Just surviving in her household has forced her to act like a villainess: to be paranoid, to think of everyone else as either a risk or a tool, to take advantage of people's weaknesses, etc. So even though she's not as sadistic as her siblings, she still kind of ends up becoming the mask? Even by plotting against her family, she's becoming exactly the person they want her to be. Also she's a total badass with like evil blood butterfly powers. Anyway, it's interesting as a reincarnation story where she actually, like, grows up as a different person rather than simply being a Japanese/Korean person living in a fantasy world. Clarste fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Feb 5, 2021 |
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thetoughestbean posted:The problem with isekai is that majority of isekai that I’ve read would have been a lot better if they weren’t isekai. You don’t need the codified stats and the power fantasy removing all sense of challenge when you have an interesting world and plot! Counterpoint: I think you could breathe new life into LOTR (and other older works of fiction) by simply adding a preface where Frodo tells the reader that he just realized that he had the memories of a modern Japanese teenager. No other changes in the text are required.
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# ? Feb 5, 2021 14:33 |
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frodo never specifically says he does not have the mind of a japanese teenager, so he probably did all along. tolkien just forgot to put it in because he was focusing on putting in more annoying songs.
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# ? Feb 5, 2021 14:46 |
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It’s actually the other way around. The paradise Frodo sails to at the end is modern Japan.
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# ? Feb 5, 2021 14:50 |
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When they bought food and drink at the Prancing Pony in Bree, they never explained how the cost of the meal gave Frodo insight how their currency related to the Japanese yen, and I really think that would have engaged me in the story more
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# ? Feb 5, 2021 14:54 |
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thetoughestbean posted:The problem with isekai is that majority of isekai that I’ve read would have been a lot better if they weren’t isekai. You don’t need the codified stats and the power fantasy removing all sense of challenge when you have an interesting world and plot! I think that one of the major problems is that a lot of isekai use the nature of the genre as a crutch to justify contrivances and not as a tool to enhance the experience. Isekais could be basically considered an experiment: what happens when you add this character to that world? So readers need good world building since that's important to understanding the world before the character gets isekai'd. You also need good characterization to establish who your MC is. But then writing needs to address how the characters react to their new world and how that world responds to them. Problem is, MC reacting to their new world with, "Gee, they're dumb. Why don't they do [thing]?" and the world being nothing but amazed with MC is not really an interesting reaction. Basically, if you can swap out your isekai'd MC with a "genius" and reasonably do the same story, it's a bad isekai.
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# ? Feb 5, 2021 15:15 |
Isekai's are just the Japanese take on A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court.
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# ? Feb 5, 2021 15:35 |
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Clarste posted:Just read The Way To Protect The Female Lead's Brother and it left such an impression on me that I felt I had to share it. And it's definitely not wholesome. thetoughestbean posted:The problem with isekai is that majority of isekai that Ive read would have been a lot better if they werent isekai. You dont need the codified stats and the power fantasy removing all sense of challenge when you have an interesting world and plot! For the first story; All that needs to be said is that Roxanne recognizes Kassis for his lineage and realizes her father went too far and is inviting all out war so she's fishing for an out. For the latter story Dylan just needs to be an overprotective sibling not ok with her younger sister marrying off to a relatively older man despite herself not being that into the idea of marriage. I don't think either of these ruin the narrative but it feels so token and tacked on; doubly so because in both cases the humans are so in tune with their fantasy counterparts mentality that there is no conflict of personality or actions. Roxanne isn't horrified by what she has to do to survive in her household because she used to be a normal person living a normal life. Rather than having a problem with magic being simplified to video game terms to the point that it takes the "magic" out of the world, or the main character just waking up better than everyone else so there's no room for meaningful growth or conflict. This is the kind of frustration where it feels like the writer didn't have faith in the strength of their own premise so they add this isekai element to appeal to a wider audience and trick them into reading this otherwise good story.
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# ? Feb 5, 2021 15:53 |
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My favorite isekai is Chitra because she was a gacha game addict and so the god who brings her to the fantasy world gives her a special gacha mechanic where she can pull hot husbandos by gaining the god worship. It owns.
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# ? Feb 5, 2021 16:09 |
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Brought To You By posted:Halfway through the available chapters and I'm sold. This is the 2nd korean reincarnation series I'll be reading where the very capable lead keeps a collar around for her silver haired boy toy. A potential cultural kink aside I enjoyed the opening chapters and there's a good sense of dramatic flair with the introductions and very good art. The amount of detail on all the clothing is commendable. That praise aside I think this is relevant to regurgitate. While I can definitely see your point that if the isekai protagonist becomes too enmeshed in their new life then it kind of defeats the point, I also feel like a lot of reincarnation stories go the other way and kind of ignore the influence that growing up again as a new person would have on someone. Like they plop into the world as a complete person with all their Japanese values intact and these things will never change. If you talk to someone who actually believes in reincarnation for real, as a spiritual process, they will usually tell you that it's possible to recover memories of your past lives but also that that won't change who you are as a person. It's already "accounted for" as it were: your past self made you who you are in your next life. In a lot of these stories the characters end up as strangers in their own families which is just weird to me.
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# ? Feb 6, 2021 13:58 |
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https://mangadex.org/title/52827/tensei-shitara-dai-nana-ouji-dattanode-kimamani-majutsu-o-kiwamemasu I was reincarnated as the 7th Prince so I will perfect my magic as I please Hey so this kind of slaps. I mean it's nothing new or interesting like baseball isekai, but no one is a slave yet. It's got a lot of pure colombian power fantasy and I'm not going to lie that's a lot of what I come to an isekai for. The disrespect to superior magical opponents is pretty choice. Still fairly new and only a few chapters but I'm cautiously optimistic that this'll be a fun romp without having to hold my nose too much. The basic premise is that a guy who wants to do magic good gets reincarnated as the 7th son of the king, which gives him plenty of time to learn how to do magic really good. Like I said, not the most innovative premise but I kind of like the "isekai'd from one fantasy world to another" kind of story.
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# ? Feb 6, 2021 18:59 |
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Wouldn't a pure Colombian power fantasy involve a ton of slavery though? That's what the man is famous for. Go to new world -> enslave everyone.
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# ? Feb 6, 2021 19:16 |
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Clarste posted:Wouldn't a pure Colombian power fantasy involve a ton of slavery though? That's what the man is famous for. Go to new world -> enslave everyone. Isekai Columbus but from the perspective of a Japanese kid who gets reincarnated as an indigenous person. Let's go.
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# ? Feb 6, 2021 19:24 |
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Clarste posted:Wouldn't a pure Colombian power fantasy involve a ton of slavery though? That's what the man is famous for. Go to new world -> enslave everyone. Not if the new world equivalent peoples in the story were on equal footing with the explorers or colonizers. Then its just regular old conflict.
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# ? Feb 6, 2021 19:26 |
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uh, that one was fine at first and then it became mostly about adult women lusting after a little boy. it's unquestionably shotacon.
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# ? Feb 6, 2021 20:38 |
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I really am going to enjoy this villainous story. Every time a new character shows up is magic Because all but two people in this house are entirely horrible individuals. And I love it. Just some thoughts about the rest Roxanne not having an indomitable position within the house is appreciated. Her brother Dion is clearly someone she has to tip-toe around and he mentioned something about the venom butterfly eggs that leads me to believe he knew the 1st one had hatched despite Roxanne hiding that from others. Maria and the other sibling are good chaotic elements and despite the Agriche Patriarch not doing much I suspect he's got some cards to play as well. I feel bad for Roxxie's mother though, how did a woman like her wind up in a house like that? The story doesn't have many characters but it's consistently engaging with what's there and seriously the author really enjoys giving people new outfits. I swear Roxxie has two new dresses every chapter. What with all the blood and stuff. Clarste posted:While I can definitely see your point that if the isekai protagonist becomes too enmeshed in their new life then it kind of defeats the point, I also feel like a lot of reincarnation stories go the other way and kind of ignore the influence that growing up again as a new person would have on someone. Like they plop into the world as a complete person with all their Japanese values intact and these things will never change. If you talk to someone who actually believes in reincarnation for real, as a spiritual process, they will usually tell you that it's possible to recover memories of your past lives but also that that won't change who you are as a person. It's already "accounted for" as it were: your past self made you who you are in your next life. In a lot of these stories the characters end up as strangers in their own families which is just weird to me. I'd say to your own observations, most stories I've seen where the MC keeps everything including their sensibilities lead into level up stories and kingdom builders so the MC can wow everyone with crop rotation and soy sauce.
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# ? Feb 6, 2021 21:49 |
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Want an isekai where the isekai'd dude does all the dumb colonialist "with my high school level of knowledge i will invent computers" stuff, but from the perspective of one of the natives of the world going through this massive societal change driven and controlled by a japanese teenager
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# ? Feb 7, 2021 01:08 |
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if you think about it colombus was an irl awful isekai protagonist
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# ? Feb 7, 2021 01:36 |
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Another cross-post:Onean posted:Went through some more stuff, and found another series to recommend.
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# ? Feb 7, 2021 10:53 |
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:uh, that one was fine at first and then it became mostly about adult women lusting after a little boy. it's unquestionably shotacon. I just read through it, and while it was ok at first it kind of lost me when the MC was sitting there absorbed in learning new magic while everyone else is getting their asses kicked. I'm sure it will come out in the next chapter that he needs this new magic, but it just kind of struck a wrong chord with me given how OP he already is.
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# ? Feb 7, 2021 13:13 |
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:uh, that one was fine at first and then it became mostly about adult women lusting after a little boy. it's unquestionably shotacon. Eh, I mean I'm usually creeped out by the standard isekai trope of a 35-year-old salaryman having a relationship with a child so I can't help but be less creeped out by one where his potential love interests are at least past the age of consent. I mean pick your poison I guess.
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# ? Feb 7, 2021 13:18 |
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Spanish Matlock posted:Eh, I mean I'm usually creeped out by the standard isekai trope of a 35-year-old salaryman having a relationship with a child so I can't help but be less creeped out by one where his potential love interests are at least past the age of consent. I mean pick your poison I guess. it's all weird and bad maybe some are arguably more weird and bad then others but it's not really a distinction worth making
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