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was subway jared in the cabal and if so why did they burn him
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Is there an Epstein Foundation or anything currently tasked with the rehabilitation of his image. lol (of course, no rehabilitation necessary since some people always did and still do think he was a great guy)
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Real hurthling! posted:was subway jared in the cabal and if so why did they burn him idk anything about the jared foundation but on my cursory read on wikipedia i'd say the start of this quote is a weird thing to say in retrospect. 
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Real hurthling! posted:was subway jared in the cabal and if so why did they burn him Once you become a public liability and have no more utility, your rear end is grass. Just lmfao that even the prosecution of all of the worst crimes possible are 100% politically motivated.
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I don't think subway Jared was in the cabal or associated with it I think he was just an obese pedophile who got a lucky break when he lost a shitload of weight and got media attention, the equivalent of 'going viral' back then, which he smartly used to get himself a brand sponsorship.
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Zook posted:I don't think subway Jared was in the cabal or associated with it I think he was just an obese pedophile who got a lucky break when he lost a shitload of weight and got media attention, the equivalent of 'going viral' back then, which he smartly used to get himself a brand sponsorship. I just always thought the weird part with him was how hard subway protected him.
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Bip Roberts posted:we all know flagpole sitta
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nut posted:this is horrible His career will never recover.
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The_Rob posted:I just always thought the weird part with him was how hard subway protected him. gotta understand how successful the jared ad campaign was for subway, they literally tripled their profits
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Zook posted:gotta understand how successful the jared ad campaign was for subway, they literally tripled their profits im not sure what is more evil, the kiddy diddling or convincing most of america that a meal that is 80% cheap white bread is healthy
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Zook posted:gotta understand how successful the jared ad campaign was for subway, they literally tripled their profits Back before he was exposed as a chomo there was a "wacky news" piece about how Jared was the porn king of his college dorm: https://www.tmz.com/2007/05/10/jared-the-subway-guy-college-porno-king/ quote:Today, he's Jared Fogel the friendly Subway guy. To scores of Indiana U. students back when, he was their in-dorm porno-rental superstore. Eat fresh! Now it just makes me wonder what kind of porn he was renting out.
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interesting quote:ALONG WITH A number of politically connected Americans, Hunter Biden’s investment vehicle in China came as a result of a series of deals struck over the last 10 years. In 2008, in the closing days of that year’s presidential campaign, Hunter Biden deregistered as a lobbyist from Oldaker, Biden and Belair, a Washington, D.C., firm he co-founded alongside William Oldaker, a longtime fundraiser and legal adviser to Joe Biden. whitey bulgers nephew lol
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gh0stpinballa posted:interesting detty put out a killer thread on this 2day, here's the first post https://twitter.com/0ddette/status/1316520720730554368?s=20
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Jetto Jagga posted:Back before he was exposed as a chomo there was a "wacky news" piece about how Jared was the porn king of his college dorm: https://www.tmz.com/2007/05/10/jared-the-subway-guy-college-porno-king/ Renting out porn would necessarily give him pretty good records of his customers' sexual interests. Seems like a good way to start a blackmail ring, y'know?
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Out of context, I read as Kushner and thought "Unsurprising." Shouldn't child molesters be chimos, though? A chomo would be a... chode molester? 
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chomo is what people in cyberpunk 2077 call each other, revealing the basis of the future economy
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trueanon had a good episode on hunter biden, really feels obvious to me the biden kids aren't any less evil than the trump kids they just look better.
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The Hunter laptop saga is a watershed moment in retrospect because it shows what it looks like when something is deliberately suppressed- not being able to send links or DMs of it and just how it evaporated out of the mainstream news cycle. hindsight is 20/20 but that was a sign that the elites were on board fully for Biden as opposed to letting the story evolve and catch on organically. they literally snuffed it out to help him get elected they’re also not done censoring hunter stuff, I think. there’s probably a lifetime of poo poo we don’t already know about Tubgoat posted:Out of context, I read as Kushner and thought "Unsurprising." it took me a minute too. “subway Jared? is that like a New York reference?” then the lightbulb went off Delta-Wye posted:im not sure what is more evil, the kiddy diddling or convincing most of america that a meal that is 80% cheap white bread is healthy not sure what the usda daily food guide thing looks like currently but this was 20 years ago considered acceptable, even desirable
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to clarify: the content of the laptop, etc are not the alarming part so much as how the ‘story’ itself was handled and buried
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crazy eyes mustafa posted:not sure what the usda daily food guide thing looks like currently but this was 20 years ago considered acceptable, even desirable its unironically unsettling that the more i read about any subject, the less the "official narrative" makes sense about almost all aspects of modern life, no matter how mundane including stuff like what a healthy diet is. even if the og food pyramid could be trusted tho, subway is taking that to the extreme with fast food bread-product atrocity. u should have known the usda recs were a trick, it was shaped like a pyramid! duh crazy eyes mustafa posted:to clarify: the content of the laptop, etc are not the alarming part so much as how the ‘story’ itself was handled and buried i find it totally believable that the laptop was a dump, much like the dnc email leak and others, but the contents seem genuine so less its absolutely fake and more its a situation of trying to hide the source. really feels like a chinese internecine conflict to me but who knows, and our media definitely isn't going to dig into it. the whole bit about the dead biden kid keeping his job while on deployment so he could get rich people off of charges on literal baby diddling is pretty awesome too. just quality people, the absolute best, and saying otherwise will get you absolutely shitcanned lmao
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500excf type r posted:I thought I was out of the loop because I couldn't figure out what the software actually did. I am glad no one actually knows but also not glad and extremely curious. For all the descriptions of PROMIS, all the speculation, all the reporting, no one describes the experience of using PROMIS except in the most vague and general terms; instead "to track people" or "espionage" or "surveillance" stand in and PROMIS as software program fades and seems to be more like a magician's magic hat. PROMIS wasn't magic though, it was a very real thing and was used in many very real applications across the globe. While you can talk about the INSLAW Octopus without discussing some of the finer points of PROMIS, parts of the story will be much more difficult to grasp and important questions, like how and why PROMIS spread, will always be left unanswered. Then again, I wouldn't be the first person to look into the Octopus and think that they had an original way to consider the story. taqueso posted:Thanks, that was a bunch of good background Appreciate it. I'll continue from where I left off at in my earlier post: before INSLAW came onto the scene, PROMIS was a known platform for managing and reviewing databases. Importantly, the databases you feed into PROMIS are arbitrary, PROMIS can just as readily be used to track dissidents as it is to maintain a bank's account records or to tag map coordinates. This is why the Justice Department knew of it and also, once INSLAW comes into the picture, why the state intelligence apparatus so quickly grasped INSLAW's edition of PROMIS. A handful of things came together to make INSLAW's PROMIS such a fantastic tool for the intelligence services: 1. Release of 32-bit minicomputers, which gave a user a lot of power compared to previous generations of computers and for a very good price. PROMIS was a killer app for this platform. 2. Prior existence of digital databases and datastores from 30 years of computing; any edition of PROMIS could only ever be as revelatory as the data that was fed into the system. PROMIS couldn't do anything with a card catalogue of personal details - not digital - but could readily digest past, current, and future information. 3. An expanded network of connected computers (literally the internet) in 1980 as compared to 1975. Both legitimate and illegitimate usage PROMIS could be done remotely and interact with a wide variety of other systems. 4. INSLAW made a great piece of software. By every single account, INSLAW's PROMIS was really, really cool. It was fast, it could handle huge quantities of data, it had an actual user interface (with colors even!), and it could run all sorts of queries across the databases, identify connections, generate reports, and more. This combination of factors, and many others, all contributed to the intelligence services identifying PROMIS as a tool with enormous potential. At the moment, I don't think INSLAW was setup from the start to develop a piece of software that would be stolen, I think actors within and connected to the justice department encountered PROMIS, saw the value, and communicated with the group who stole PROMIS. INSLAW had done their job all too well and a treasure like this couldn't just go unexploited. inconsequential posted:One of the weirdest details about the Finders case to me is that they had portable computers that could connect to the internet and were in constant correspondence in 1986. That had to be expensive. The non-conspiracy take pretty much has to be that the founder is just this rich, connected rear end in a top hat loving around for fun but without ill intent which I guess is possible but doesn't seem likely. As far as I can gather from the released documents, the computers used by the Finders were portable in the sense that they could be picked up, carried, and deployed elsewhere. The guy who found one of the Finders' computers in a phone booth had to take it home and plug it in before he could do anything with the device. The computers were expensive though, portable versions even more so, and it would take a trained user to use the machines like the Finders are reported to have done. This happens to line up with one of the possible roles of the finders: they literally operated a company who trained the CIA and other government branches how to use computers. The released documents also reference a time that the Finders were suspected of what seems like hacking or tampering with the United States Department of Agriculture. Who knows what the hell they were doing though. The Finders training spooks how to use PROMIS and hack computers is a realistic proposition. bedpan has issued a correction as of 02:45 on Feb 7, 2021 |
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The impression I got from reading the finders docs (which was awhile ago so might be wrong here) was that the remote operatives had something roughly like a c64 or trs80 and could connect to a central BBS type system with offline mail reading. Pretty high tech for the time but not out of reach for hacker type amateurs.
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taqueso posted:The impression I got from reading the finders docs (which was awhile ago so might be wrong here) was that the remote operatives had something roughly like a c64 or trs80 and could connect to a central BBS type system with offline mail reading. Pretty high tech for the time but not out of reach for hacker types. I think the computer was identified as a TSR model 3, which would make it portable and able to do all the things you've mentioned.
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taqueso posted:The impression I got from reading the finders docs (which was awhile ago so might be wrong here) was that the remote operatives had something roughly like a c64 or trs80 and could connect to a central BBS type system with offline mail reading. Pretty high tech for the time but not out of reach for hacker type amateurs. isn't the difference here that there was central funding to provide standard equipment to a group of actors who were already making moves in concert using older methods? like, sure, a group of nerds back then could get this stuff done but why? to do a remote d&d campaign?
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:isn't the difference here that there was central funding to provide standard equipment to a group of actors who were already making moves in concert using older methods? it was a cheap and effective way to communicate securely and quickly.
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:isn't the difference here that there was central funding to provide standard equipment to a group of actors who were already making moves in concert using older methods? Well, dungeons were certainly involved. Probably grand dragons, too.
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Oh yeah, the concept is totally off the charts red flags everywhere even if you buy the cover story. I guess I just meant it was high tech "wow drat cool, your mom lets you do this on the phone and you can talk to people in berlin?" level stuff but not military only cia software type stuff. Though it certainly could have been cia software 
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The alien abduction stories sound like a drug like scopolamine ("known to produce loss of memory following exposure" and hallucinations) was used, which I think I found out about through an older Vice video, or other nightshade derived drugs. "It is one of those drugs with a rich backstory. It is said to be one of the first “truth serums”. In the early 20th century, it was administered by some doctors as a pain-relief drug – or rather a drug that led to the forgetting of pain – in childbirth until one obstetrician noticed how women who had been given it answered candidly to questions; he later wondered if it could be used when questioning people charged with crimes. It was used as evidence in some trials, but dubiously. Then there are stories of it being used in Nazi Germany as an interrogation tool, and also in the middle ages by witches." https://www.theguardian.com/society/shortcuts/2015/sep/02/devils-breath-aka-scopolamine-can-it-really-zombify-you
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nut posted:sorry for the lengthy excerpt but this is the whole section on Cults from The Controllers, with a ton of a great inroads (WACL, Iran-Contra, Green Berets, Nordic Aryan Alien origins) if anyone is looking for a way to ruin a weekend. this reminds me of a blog I ran across a few years ago that referenced Cannon a lot while looking at the history of UFOs. Does Cannon go into UFO sightings in Brazil during the dictatorship? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_sightings_in_Brazil
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the talk of playing around with advanced-for-its-time computers reminds me of how Gladio stay-behind groups were furnished with advanced-for-its-time radio equipment to facilitate comms between all the European groups AND the US without having to resort to traditional/contemporary means
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Jetto Jagga posted:Back before he was exposed as a chomo there was a "wacky news" piece about how Jared was the porn king of his college dorm: https://www.tmz.com/2007/05/10/jared-the-subway-guy-college-porno-king/ reminder that part of what led to Fogle’s downfall was the guy managing his charity asked a woman if she wanted to come gently caress his horse. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/12/jared-fogle-investigation-russell-taylor/30050615/ also apparently that guy got his sentence overturned in 2020 and will get a new trial 👁
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inconsequential posted:reminder that part of what led to Fogle’s downfall was the guy managing his charity asked a woman if she wanted to come gently caress his horse. Also lol at keeping a horse. If you spent a large portion of your life fascinatingly obese, you are not, never were and never will be a horse person.
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Zook posted:you know who else was probably an mk ultra victim? the temple os guy, don't really have any evidence for it though just a hunch. My theory is that he's a certain permabanned forums user
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