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Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

There are regularly scandals involving au pairs being used as slave labor around these parts, being kept prisoner, and even sexually abused. A lot of the time the au pairs are young women from east asian and eastern european nations, and fat white gammons love it. Au pairing may have at one point been a good thing but nowadays it's almost always about gross exploitation of the vulnerable.

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Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
keir harmer to their electoral chances

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Shear Modulus posted:

isn't starmer their guy? the gently caress?

The labour right are as monstrous as the Tories but think of themselves as the good guys while the Tories don't give a poo poo

Rollie Fingers
Jul 28, 2002

There's no centrist in the UK with any sliver of competence or charisma. There'll be a conveyor belt of nondescript centrist noodles failing as New Labour leader.

The UK's political landscape isn't for centrists any more. The young are increasingly hard(ish) left and the old are Enoch Powellists.

edit The middle aged are also Enoch Powellists

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

now that keir has got rid of the left they can get rid of him and install a charismatic, electable candidate from the right of the PLP. problem is this person does not exist.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
The Labour right have the fundamental problem that they can't grasp that New Labour failed on its own merits. None of them can ever answer the question about why Labour got smashed in 2010 if Blairism/Brownism is so great.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

MikeCrotch posted:

The Labour right have the fundamental problem that they can't grasp that New Labour failed on its own merits. None of them can ever answer the question about why Labour got smashed in 2010 if Blairism/Brownism is so great.

I don't see many attribute good things about Broons period. They want Blair back and want him back hard.

gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

>>=

marktheando posted:

now that keir has got rid of the left they can get rid of him and install a charismatic, electable candidate from the right of the PLP. problem is this person does not exist.

Congratulations to Piers Morgan,

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Boris Johnson is reversing Cameron's privatization of the NHS England

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Nonsense posted:

Boris Johnson is reversing Cameron's privatization of the NHS England

literally not a joke lol

rip kier

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



Jose posted:

The labour right are as monstrous as the Tories but think of themselves as the good guys while the Tories don't give a poo poo
Red Tory is a slur,

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/06/boris-johnson-planning-nhs-england-overhaul-leaked-paper-shows

quote:

The shadow health secretary, Jonathan Ashworth, said that reducing the role of privatisation in the NHS was very important, but that the reforms must also improve patient outcomes and reduce waiting times for treatment.

“The Lansley changes were disastrous … and we pleaded with the government at the time not to do this, so it doesn’t surprise me that now they’ve now come along and said we recognise those changes were counterproductive,” he said.

He questioned, however, whether now was the right moment to restructure the NHS as it grappled with unprecedented pressure from the coronavirus pandemic.

“NHS staff are feeling ground down. Is this really the time for another structural reorganisation? And fundamentally what is the aim of these reforms?” he asked.

“ This is a big task, and if government is going to embark upon this, it has to be clear what their destination is. Are these reforms going to improve outcomes for patients? That’s the standard by which they will be judged.”

A spokesperson for the Department of Health and Social Care said it was “rightly considering where changes need to be made to help us build back better” and that the “full details will be set out in due course”.

was happy to see a labour official question if the time was right to reverse privatization, and was overjoyed when I saw the UK government use the Biden campaign slogan

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



Atrocious Joe posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/06/boris-johnson-planning-nhs-england-overhaul-leaked-paper-shows


was happy to see a labour official question if the time was right to reverse privatization, and was overjoyed when I saw the UK government use the Biden campaign slogan

duck season! *smiles triumphantly*

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


Atrocious Joe posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/06/boris-johnson-planning-nhs-england-overhaul-leaked-paper-shows


was happy to see a labour official question if the time was right to reverse privatization, and was overjoyed when I saw the UK government use the Biden campaign slogan

This is a solid lol, lol

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/06/boris-johnson-planning-nhs-england-overhaul-leaked-paper-shows


was happy to see a labour official question if the time was right to reverse privatization, and was overjoyed when I saw the UK government use the Biden campaign slogan

build back better is a disaster relief management framework thing the UN uses

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






It's also a conspiracy nut trigger because they think build back better is connected to agenda21 and klaus schwab and vaccines and bill gates and the New World Order and people killing babies for adrenochrome, etc.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

A more accurate reading of the proposal is a more top down control of healthcare rather than ending privatisation. Rather that the fragmented tendering process that the 2012 reform made integral to the NHS there's going to be fully integrated all service providers closer to US insurance companies running the services in the area but no necessity to keep any part of it publicly owned and still little to no democratic accountability depending on how the local authority is involved in its running.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
What we're seeing is the slow death of neoliberalism - the Tories no longer want the market to determine everything, but are taking their cues from Chinese state capitalism instead (which incidentally allows for bonkers levels of corruption)

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
lol at Matt Hancock watching Contagion and buying more vaccine doses right after

it's like Reagan pursuing some bare minimum effort towards anti-nuclear-proliferation after watching The Day After

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

as far as i can tell, namesake is right - this seems to be a centralisation of private tender rather than a deprivatisation, with the presumed goal of making it easier to throw vast sums of money at old school chums

it does seem easier to rescind the privatisation from that position, though, so lol

re: au pairs, it's an arrangement from a different time. the point of it was originally to give middle-class kids an opportunity to live in another country and get some cultural immersion + contacts in that country. of course, as the project has expanded it's drifted more and more towards dirt-cheap servant labour totally dependent on the whims of some rich person

probably the most famous au pair that i can think of is french-norwegian politician and corruption investigator eva joly, who brought down ELF. in a globalised, hypercapitalist world, most au pairs are racialised Others who often need some way to offer remittances in a foreign currency. it's a broken arrangement and should absolutely be abolished

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Nonsense posted:

I don't see many attribute good things about Broons period. They want Blair back and want him back hard.

They exist, I remember my dad telling me about the distinction between a Brownite and Blairite and its a very feirce rivalry in the labour right lol

That will also be a point of fracture for the PLP going forward. Both sides arguing kieth is too browny or Blairy and needs to swap to the other

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/06/boris-johnson-planning-nhs-england-overhaul-leaked-paper-shows


was happy to see a labour official question if the time was right to reverse privatization, and was overjoyed when I saw the UK government use the Biden campaign slogan

"Build back better" has been rolled out a fair bit the last few months, I honestly have no idea if it means the democratic party machine are working with Labour or if they're just lazy fucks.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


It sounds like complete nonsense to me I hate it

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

MikeCrotch posted:

The Labour right have the fundamental problem that they can't grasp that New Labour failed on its own merits. None of them can ever answer the question about why Labour got smashed in 2010 if Blairism/Brownism is so great.

It's because every single instance that Gordon Brown would go to say something, his jaw would drop open and just hang there for a disturbingly long time.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Communist Thoughts posted:

It sounds like complete nonsense to me I hate it

i think it had origins in some UN based project, but that it sounds like some absolute engrish is a pretty compelling argument that our leaders don’t know what they’re doing or even read the things they’re supposed to sign off

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

i am harry posted:

It's because every single instance that Gordon Brown would go to say something, his jaw would drop open and just hang there for a disturbingly long time.
The real divide among the Labour right: hanging jaw vs. rictus grin

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


This time we got rid of the rictus grin and hanging jaw - and I'm pretty proud of the hair - but we couldn't remove the shininess or permanent sorryface

Were working on the recall and I can't wait to show you our next model

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

MikeCrotch posted:

What we're seeing is the slow death of neoliberalism - the Tories no longer want the market to determine everything, but are taking their cues from Chinese state capitalism instead (which incidentally allows for bonkers levels of corruption)

Is BoJo going to execute any billionaires?

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/thesundaytimes/...ingawful.com%2F

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006


lmao

Dravs
Mar 8, 2011

You've done well, kiddo.
I'm pretty sure he just had some kind of weird fetish at this point.

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005


Looking forwarding the official Labour/LibDem merger in the coming weeks.

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010
Britain really is hosed isn't it jesus christ

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Syncopated posted:

Britain really is hosed isn't it jesus christ

hosed like a sex arse

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

keir starmer wins the prize for fastest run rightward, accepts trophy from incumbent lenin moreno

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003


not faltering when it’s changed to failing i suppose

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004


finally, a party for business and flags. its about time

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Party will become more craven, insists labour leader Meek Squealer

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


V. Illych L. posted:

keir starmer wins the prize for fastest run rightward, accepts trophy from incumbent lenin moreno

god he was such a disappointment, don’t remind me

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Dec 30, 2010

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