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Ash Crimson
Apr 4, 2010

Mr.Radar posted:

Just a heads up, ralphthemoviemaker's next video is up on Patreon and it's about Channel Awesome with 2/3rds of the video specifically being about Spoony, including the circumstances of his firing from CA. While this thread has evolved pretty far beyond Spoonywatch so I don't expect much Spoony drama here, do be prepared that this may briefly reignite Spoony drama elsewhere (like Twitter) and if you don't want to hear more about Spoony definitely give the video a skip.

What is spoony drama? What does it mean?

I love spoony and I love mukbangs

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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Logan’s Run has a small amount of weird sex stuff. It’s weird to me that a movie with full frontal is either G or PG, I forget which, but the 70s did not give a gently caress.

The director’s commentary for Zardoz is very much worth a listen. He doesn’t really talk about the movie but tells a lot of stories about filming that are aimless and funny, like how he had to make changes to the script because there were only a limited number of actors in the city where they filmed who were willing to be naked extras.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Ash Crimson posted:

What is spoony drama? What does it mean?

I love spoony and I love mukbangs

Nikacado fan?

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Mr.Radar posted:

Just a heads up, ralphthemoviemaker's next video is up on Patreon and it's about Channel Awesome with 2/3rds of the video specifically being about Spoony, including the circumstances of his firing from CA. While this thread has evolved pretty far beyond Spoonywatch so I don't expect much Spoony drama here, do be prepared that this may briefly reignite Spoony drama elsewhere (like Twitter) and if you don't want to hear more about Spoony definitely give the video a skip.

Genuine question: does Ralph have any special insight into CA in general or Spoony in specific?

40-Degree Day
Sep 24, 2012


Dawgstar posted:

Genuine question: does Ralph have any special insight into CA in general or Spoony in specific?

Probably just obvious surface level observations and lame jokes like usual.

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

40-Degree Day posted:

Probably just obvious surface level observations and lame jokes like usual.

Yes, for this video it's very much this. The first third of the video he does the Internet Critic thing where he comments on the final CA "anniversary" film (the one they did after To Boldly Flee that nobody remembers) and the last two thirds are mostly him playing clips from Spoony's commentaries on Kickassia, Suburban Knights, and To Boldly Flee with a facecam for reactions. It's honestly not a very good video.

Mr.Radar fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Feb 9, 2021

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

https://twitter.com/JimSterling/status/1358908708890238976

Jamie Faith
Jan 13, 2020

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

Max Wilco posted:


Also yeah, a lot of the VNs and stuff on Steam sell what are essentially 'censored' games through Steam directly, but then will link 'decensored' patches to download from their site or elsewhere, which is honestly pretty clever. It seems like there are some games that don't seem to be censored at all, though, so maybe Steam has lightened their policies somewhat.

Steam is selling a ton of infamously bad porn games completely uncensored at this point and because I assume most people don't follow garbage porn games, at least one fairly prolific creator of which has a history of straight up plagarizing content for their game and occasionally not paying or even crediting contributors for what is now a paid product on steam, and another is on their second or third patreon funded title where they have demonstrably just taken the money and run citing difficulties with other members of the team only to start a new project not long later and do the exact same poo poo and keep predating on horny nerds still funding their other patreons. The indie smut game scene is full of crazy drama and it is absolutely wild to me that steam is letting some of this poo poo touch their store face when several are barely functional betas or alphas.

(oh god I didn't realize my browser tab hadn't refreshed until I'd finished typing)

Mr.Radar posted:

Just a heads up, ralphthemoviemaker's next video is up on Patreon and it's about Channel Awesome with 2/3rds of the video specifically being about Spoony, including the circumstances of his firing from CA. While this thread has evolved pretty far beyond Spoonywatch so I don't expect much Spoony drama here, do be prepared that this may briefly reignite Spoony drama elsewhere (like Twitter) and if you don't want to hear more about Spoony definitely give the video a skip.

Why do people keep fixating so much on Spoony anyway? Like I get there was a bunch of spoony drama and stuff but people seem to latch on to him in a way that they never really do the other CA members.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Mr.Radar posted:

Yes, for this video it's very much this. The first third of the video he does the Internet Critic thing where he comments on the final CA "anniversary" film (the one they did after To Boldly Flee that nobody remembers) and the last two thirds are mostly him playing clips from Spoony's commentaries on Kickassia, Suburban Knights, and To Boldly Flee with a facecam for reactions. It's honestly not a very good video.

What was the final movie? I only remember the one where Doug “dies” and two before it.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

Nuebot posted:

Steam is selling a ton of infamously bad porn games completely uncensored at this point and because I assume most people don't follow garbage porn games, at least one fairly prolific creator of which has a history of straight up plagarizing content for their game and occasionally not paying or even crediting contributors for what is now a paid product on steam, and another is on their second or third patreon funded title where they have demonstrably just taken the money and run citing difficulties with other members of the team only to start a new project not long later and do the exact same poo poo and keep predating on horny nerds still funding their other patreons. The indie smut game scene is full of crazy drama and it is absolutely wild to me that steam is letting some of this poo poo touch their store face when several are barely functional betas or alphas.

(oh god I didn't realize my browser tab hadn't refreshed until I'd finished typing)

Another goon gifted me a copy of Huniepop as a joke like three years ago, and ever since there is always at least one terrible porn game in the New and Trending section on the store page. Usually more than one. :shepicide:

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Why do people keep fixating so much on Spoony anyway? Like I get there was a bunch of spoony drama and stuff but people seem to latch on to him in a way that they never really do the other CA members.

Even before the CA breakup his fanbase had a tendency to be way more outspoken then anybody else's on CA - even Doug's - and it used to be a source of consternation for Spoony when other CA creators stopped wanting to do crossovers with him because it always resulted in them getting dogpiled by his base for "ruining" a video. He just seemed to attract the sort of obsessive, aggressive nerd fan that would do things like make retrospective videos about him almost a decade after he stopped putting out anything in terms of new material.

Part of it may also just be sheer voyeurism. Spoony not only had a very public and ugly end to his internet career, but it was fueled at least in part by genuine mental health issues, whereas the other CA people who didn't stick the landing turned out to just be run-of-the-mill creeps and assholes.

Jamie Faith
Jan 13, 2020

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

What was the final movie? I only remember the one where Doug “dies” and two before it.

"The Uncanny Valley". Doug, Spoony, and most of the big TGwtG personalities weren't in it IIRC. It starred all the lesser-known CA people who were kinda neglected by the first 3 movies. The movie was a series of short stories with each story staring, written by, and centering around one content creator each. I never saw it but that's how it was described to me.

Edit: just googled it and I was wrong, Doug and Brad were in it. I think I was getting it mixed up with that radio drama Lewis made with all the other lesser-known CA people. Here's the fan wiki article about it. https://thatguywiththeglasses.fandom.com/wiki/Year_Five

Jamie Faith fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Feb 9, 2021

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Jamie Faith posted:

"The Uncanny Valley". Doug, Spoony, and most of the big TGwtG personalities weren't in it IIRC. It starred all the lesser-known CA people who were kinda neglected by the first 3 movies. The movie was a series of short stories with each story staring, written by, and centering around one content creator each. I never saw it but that's how it was described to me.

Edit: just googled it and I was wrong, Doug and Brad were in it. I think I was getting it mixed up with that radio drama Lewis made with all the other lesser-known CA people. Here's the fan wiki article about it. https://thatguywiththeglasses.fandom.com/wiki/Year_Five

Ok I do remember this. THe first "Bit" starred Uncle Yo (God there's a name I haven't thought about in a long time) As a gamer who gets addicted to Skyrim to the point where his character (Played by Doug) Takes over his life and traps Uncle Yo in the game.

Jamie Faith
Jan 13, 2020

Here's Mike Jeavon's review of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZf3WXtI2uI&ab_channel=MikeJeavons

Altho this review was back before Change the Channel happened and he got really cynical about CA

MechaX
Nov 19, 2011

"Let's be positive! Let's start a fire!"

Jamie Faith posted:

"The Uncanny Valley". Doug, Spoony, and most of the big TGwtG personalities weren't in it IIRC. It starred all the lesser-known CA people who were kinda neglected by the first 3 movies. The movie was a series of short stories with each story staring, written by, and centering around one content creator each. I never saw it but that's how it was described to me.

Edit: just googled it and I was wrong, Doug and Brad were in it. I think I was getting it mixed up with that radio drama Lewis made with all the other lesser-known CA people. Here's the fan wiki article about it. https://thatguywiththeglasses.fandom.com/wiki/Year_Five

I was today years old when I learned that there was actually another movie beyond To Boldly Flee

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Sydin posted:

Part of it may also just be sheer voyeurism. Spoony not only had a very public and ugly end to his internet career, but it was fueled at least in part by genuine mental health issues, whereas the other CA people who didn't stick the landing turned out to just be run-of-the-mill creeps and assholes.

It still goes on to this day. Somebody on Spoony's subreddit posted actual car cam footage of the cop who arrested him when he got in a traffic accident. It was turning into a sub section of Kiwi Farms for a while and probably has only gotten worse because the internet.

Violet_Sky
Dec 5, 2011



Fun Shoe
TheAmazingAtheist was on TGWTG. What a wild time

No.1 Special
Apr 4, 2011

Jimquisition: Patenting Game Mechanics: A Worse Idea Than Stadia - https://youtu.be/07trilIiilk

Mr Phillby
Apr 8, 2009

~TRAVIS~
Spoony's strange in that I can think of a lot of creators who create much more negative nitpicky content than he ever did and they didn't cultivate such an awful fanbase of obsesive losers as Spoony has.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

No.1 Special posted:

Jimquisition: Patenting Game Mechanics: A Worse Idea Than Stadia - https://youtu.be/07trilIiilk

I've been ranting to the high heavens about this poo poo ever since namco patented loading screen mini-games and nintendo patented "the way link's head looks towards things of vague interest that might be important to you" in wind waker.

Jamie Faith
Jan 13, 2020

Speaking of Doug Walker....

Never forget :911:

https://twitter.com/JohnForemanTwat/status/1358825080671907845

Jamie Faith fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Feb 9, 2021

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007

I'd say that Spoony stuff was, at least at some point, based around him being one of the best in the business all those years ago...for some people anyways who may have perhaps wanted to shame him into creating again or something like that which was obviously going to totally not work. Of course it's long gone into "look at this lolcow"/Cringe-type territory as with so many others and it never really seems to stop even if he does...well, basically nothing now. People still talk even though he doesn't do much except post on Twitter, just going through the same things over and over.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Someone needs to come up with a reverse version of the Spotless Mind machine so I can have Jim’s wig digitally inserted into all of my memories of them, because god drat!

Zetsubou-san
Jan 28, 2015

Cruel Bifaunidas demanded that you [stand]🧍 I require only that you [kneel]🧎

MiddleOne posted:

Wanted to bring attention to Codex Entry's video on the Bachelors route in Pathologic since I really think more should see it. Absolutely excellent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w-r21nDfb0

this was a great video

e:

muscles like this! posted:

Does Australia still have the problems with videogame ratings where any positive drug use gives it their version of AO?

yep

Zetsubou-san fucked around with this message at 12:08 on Feb 9, 2021

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Kim Justice posted:

I'd say that Spoony stuff was, at least at some point, based around him being one of the best in the business all those years ago...for some people anyways who may have perhaps wanted to shame him into creating again or something like that which was obviously going to totally not work. Of course it's long gone into "look at this lolcow"/Cringe-type territory as with so many others and it never really seems to stop even if he does...well, basically nothing now. People still talk even though he doesn't do much except post on Twitter, just going through the same things over and over.

Yeah, I don't think people get how hard Spoony used to work on scripts and editing which I'm sure was a huge drain mentally to him.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007

Plus he had a whole bunch of health issues both mental and physical. That doesn't excuse all of what he did, especially leaving his patreon up years after he stopped producing anything, but I'm just sad for him rather than angry. He had a lot of talent as an entertainer but (judging by his relatively recent livestreams) he's become too bitter and burned out to make use of it.

MechaX
Nov 19, 2011

"Let's be positive! Let's start a fire!"

Dawgstar posted:

Yeah, I don't think people get how hard Spoony used to work on scripts and editing which I'm sure was a huge drain mentally to him.

Yeah the time spent editing and performing the skits were huge, huge time sinks according to him a decade ago.

It's a shame because given his Phantasmagoria, SWAT, and Ripper LPs, he was absolutely not bad at all with being entertaining offscript if he had to be. Things might have been different if he were able to make it to the big blow up of twitch streaming and the shift from longer reviews to shorter stuff on youtube so not every video he did required a massive amount of editing.

At this point, he's bitter and internally suffering, and his "fanbase" mostly consists of people egging him on or coming up with ideas like "lol we should totally go to court on the case spoony has open" and all that poo poo just sucks.

Youth Decay
Aug 18, 2015

Casey Aonso on Tiktok reviving the "I'm Not Like Other Girls" mentality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO4IPgv8PII

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:
Also, his FMV game videos were comedy gold. And I don't just mean the FMV Golf games or the Birding one.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

MechaX posted:

Yeah the time spent editing and performing the skits were huge, huge time sinks according to him a decade ago.

It's a shame because given his Phantasmagoria, SWAT, and Ripper LPs, he was absolutely not bad at all with being entertaining offscript if he had to be. Things might have been different if he were able to make it to the big blow up of twitch streaming and the shift from longer reviews to shorter stuff on youtube so not every video he did required a massive amount of editing.

At this point, he's bitter and internally suffering, and his "fanbase" mostly consists of people egging him on or coming up with ideas like "lol we should totally go to court on the case spoony has open" and all that poo poo just sucks.
Just reminds me of how bitter Lordkat was at Spoony that he said everything Spoony did was ripping off/saying MST3K jokes which feels very unfair to the work Spoony did

Kamrat
Nov 27, 2012

Thanks for playing Alone in the dark 2.

Now please fuck off

achillesforever6 posted:

Just reminds me of how bitter Lordkat was at Spoony that he said everything Spoony did was ripping off/saying MST3K jokes which feels very unfair to the work Spoony did

Well, Lordkat was always an rear end in a top hat so it's not surprising.

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:
Pretty much everyone from that era of reacting to movies lists MST3K as their inspiration. That's throwing stones in a glass neighbourhood…

Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?
In case anyone still enjoys "angry reviewer guy watches bad movies" type of content I recommend Bobsheaux. It's just him and his wife ripping on bad movies and the skits/lore are kept to a minimum. They're a very wholesome duo.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer
Depends. Does he also get really excited and happy if he likes something? That's what I liked about Spoony the most: His manic energy.

I've found reviewers who are 100% angry and only angry to be terribly exhausting and dull. If you can't add some genuine maniacal laughter into the mix then and when, :getout:

Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?
Yeah he's very emotive. If you want a starting point I recommend Disney's Descendants, a series that he doesn't care for but his wife loves so you get some good back-and-forth between them.

If you want to see something that he genuinely loves check out the first Land Before Time.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

achillesforever6 posted:

Just reminds me of how bitter Lordkat was at Spoony that he said everything Spoony did was ripping off/saying MST3K jokes which feels very unfair to the work Spoony did

Yeah, if riffing on clips of movies is ripping off MST3K then like everybody at CA did it. LordKat himself I've always been told is mostly an extremely petty human who thinks he should have been a lot bigger than he was and did MauLer-esque length streams complaining about Spoony.

What's really funny in hindsight is that it was Notch who LordKat was apparently refused an interview with.

Antigravitas posted:

Pretty much everyone from that era of reacting to movies lists MST3K as their inspiration. That's throwing stones in a glass neighbourhood…

Yeah. In a way that helped give rise to the Modern Internet Reviewer (or, at least, the first generation). While AVGN was the big impetus a lot of them patterned off the cow town puppet show. I think Linkara even has a Tom Servo he made on his bookshelf that he also brought to a RiffTrax live show and I know Bill Corbett and Lindsay have friendly back-and-forths on Twitter. I think even Linday and Lewis interviewed Mike Nelson once.

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
There was also the whole BETRAYAL thing which everyone called Spoony unprofessional for, which got turned into running gag on the internet for a while.

I loved Spoony's work (especially the DND stories), but around his Ultima 9 retrospective it got real uncomfortable at times.

Ash Crimson
Apr 4, 2010

CelticPredator posted:

Nikacado fan?



we need to talk about the destruction of a content creator; the slow inevitable personality death that accompanies each and every single person as their fanbase demands more and more of their humanity

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008

DeafNote posted:

There was also the whole BETRAYAL thing which everyone called Spoony unprofessional for, which got turned into running gag on the internet for a while.

I loved Spoony's work (especially the DND stories), but around his Ultima 9 retrospective it got real uncomfortable at times.

I remember one of those Ultima reviews getting REALLY uncomfortable. He started punching the cover and looking unhinged, and either that was serious quality acting or he just lost it for a moment.

And then there was that one Twilight "review" where he just looked miserable, drowning himself in rum and skyping up random people.

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Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

DeafNote posted:

There was also the whole BETRAYAL thing which everyone called Spoony unprofessional for, which got turned into running gag on the internet for a while.

I loved Spoony's work (especially the DND stories), but around his Ultima 9 retrospective it got real uncomfortable at times.

Yeah the Ultima retrospective is really sad because it starts off with him reviewing games that he loves and were genuinely foundational to him, but he got to the bad games right around the time things were going downhill for him in real life and what was clearly originally meant to be a "great series that fell from grace" saga just turned into Spoony having a genuine breakdown on camera and then calling it content.

Spoonychat always depresses the hell out of me. He had a genuine comedic talent that outstripped the vast majority of his peers and it's really a shame to see where it all ended up. :smith:

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