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Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
Thanks pal, back to my tiny towns 3 aisle Asian grocery cum takeout.

E: atleast it's delicious

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bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
chogochujang is lit. vinegar gochujang and can be made w 1 part vinegar 2 parts gochujang. usually rice vinegar but eh

your package advertises added lemon and oligo syrup and seems to be 1 part vinegar 1 part lemon oligo syrup and 18 parts gochujang

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
If I can't find anything better do you think I could substitute this? I'd be concerned about the acids affecting the fermentation process but I would like to expand my pickled cabbage horizons.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
itll be terrible

i know of no subs for gochugaru. if you cant find it get it mail ordered

MinutePirateBug
Mar 4, 2013
Does anyone have any good reading on why the USA's 2018 bombing of Uighur militants happened? Or is it just an ongoing thing to target ETIM & TIM since 9/11 & especially after the 2009 Urumqi riots?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-s-targets-chinese-uighur-militants-well-taliban-fighters-afghanistan-n845876
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...re-has-changed/

MinutePirateBug fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Feb 10, 2021

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Weka posted:

If I can't find anything better do you think I could substitute this? I'd be concerned about the acids affecting the fermentation process but I would like to expand my pickled cabbage horizons.

To make kimchi? No, it'll be garbage. Just get it online, it's dry powder. Shipping's not an issue.

The junk collector
Aug 10, 2005
Hey do you want that motherboard?

MinutePirateBug posted:

Does anyone have any good reading on why the USA's 2018 bombing of Uighur militants happened? Or is it just an ongoing thing to target ETIM & TIM since 9/11 & especially after the 2009 Urumqi riots?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-s-targets-chinese-uighur-militants-well-taliban-fighters-afghanistan-n845876
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...re-has-changed/

I mean, according to the articles you linked, the US bombed a Taliban base located inside of Afghanistan that happened to house ETIM in addition to Taliban fighters, so I imagine that's the long and short of it.

MinutePirateBug
Mar 4, 2013

The junk collector posted:

I mean, according to the articles you linked, the US bombed a Taliban base located inside of Afghanistan that happened to house ETIM in addition to Taliban fighters, so I imagine that's the long and short of it.

It seems a bit more targeted than that.

"MAJ. GEN. HECKER: Over the past weekend, United States forces conducted air operations to strike Taliban and East Turkestan Islamic Movement, or ETIM, training facilities in Badakhshan province. The destruction of these training facilities prevent terrorists from planning any acts near the border with China and Tajikistan. The strikes also destroyed stolen Afghan National Army vehicles in the process of being converted to vehicle-borne improvised explosive devices.

One brief note on ETIM, which I just mentioned. They're a terrorist organization that operates in China and the border regions of Afghanistan. ETIM enjoys support from the Taliban in the mountains of Badakhshan, so hitting these Taliban training facilities and squeezing the Taliban's support networks degrades ETIM capabilities."

Edit: nvm

Q: Hello, General. Thank you for doing this.

I just had a couple of questions about the Badakhshan strike.

It's been reported, and you said at the opening remarks that the East Turkestan Islamic Movement was also targeted in these strikes. Is this the first time that this group has been targeted by U.S. or coalition aircraft? And under what authority is that done? Is it due to their connection to other groups?

And if you could also provide a little more clarity on where Badakhshan -- these training camps were. Were they part of the corridor that connects to China?

MAJ. GEN. HECKER: OK, so I'll answer the last part first.

So, the -- the strikes, you know, if you look -- Badakhshan is in the northeast portion of Afghanistan. There is a -- that small corridor that runs to basically where it gets to the border with China. It wasn't along that straight right there; it was inland from that or more to the east, and that's where the strikes were conducted.

Now, we didn't actually strike ETIM terrorists when we were doing this. We were strictly -- strictly striking the -- the training camps that both the Taliban as well as the ETIM use. And we're using our existing authorities to do that.

https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Tr...teleconference/


This was also coming roughly at the same time as China was negotiating with the Taliban to stop supporting ETIM in Afghanistan and the US-Taliban deal for withdrawal in July of 2021.

https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/FP_20200615_china_afghanistan_felbab_brown.pdf
https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2018/02/08/pentagon-thinks-china-could-be-a-partner-in-afghanistan/

Edit: Then Pompeo revoked their designation as a terrorist organization in October of 2020
https://www.federalregister.gov/doc...wn-as-etim-as-a

Edit: This is really confusing because ETIM may have never existed and may just be a Chinese propaganda thing? The USA declared an imaginary organization a terrorist organization and then bombed imaginary people? Then declared that it was in fact imaginary ~20 years after the fact.

MinutePirateBug fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Feb 10, 2021

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

MinutePirateBug posted:

It seems a bit more targeted than that.

"MAJ. GEN. HECKER: Over the past weekend, United States forces conducted air operations to strike Taliban and East Turkestan Islamic Movement, or ETIM, training facilities in Badakhshan province. The destruction of these training facilities prevent terrorists from planning any acts near the border with China and Tajikistan. The strikes also destroyed stolen Afghan National Army vehicles in the process of being converted to vehicle-borne improvised explosive devices.

One brief note on ETIM, which I just mentioned. They're a terrorist organization that operates in China and the border regions of Afghanistan. ETIM enjoys support from the Taliban in the mountains of Badakhshan, so hitting these Taliban training facilities and squeezing the Taliban's support networks degrades ETIM capabilities."

Edit: nvm

Q: Hello, General. Thank you for doing this.

I just had a couple of questions about the Badakhshan strike.

It's been reported, and you said at the opening remarks that the East Turkestan Islamic Movement was also targeted in these strikes. Is this the first time that this group has been targeted by U.S. or coalition aircraft? And under what authority is that done? Is it due to their connection to other groups?

And if you could also provide a little more clarity on where Badakhshan -- these training camps were. Were they part of the corridor that connects to China?

MAJ. GEN. HECKER: OK, so I'll answer the last part first.

So, the -- the strikes, you know, if you look -- Badakhshan is in the northeast portion of Afghanistan. There is a -- that small corridor that runs to basically where it gets to the border with China. It wasn't along that straight right there; it was inland from that or more to the east, and that's where the strikes were conducted.

Now, we didn't actually strike ETIM terrorists when we were doing this. We were strictly -- strictly striking the -- the training camps that both the Taliban as well as the ETIM use. And we're using our existing authorities to do that.

https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Tr...teleconference/


This was also coming roughly at the same time as China was negotiating with the Taliban to stop supporting ETIM in Afghanistan and the US-Taliban deal for withdrawal in July of 2021.

https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/FP_20200615_china_afghanistan_felbab_brown.pdf
https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2018/02/08/pentagon-thinks-china-could-be-a-partner-in-afghanistan/

Edit: Then Pompeo revoked their designation as a terrorist organization in October of 2020
https://www.federalregister.gov/doc...wn-as-etim-as-a

Edit: This is really confusing because ETIM may have never existed and may just be a Chinese propaganda thing? The USA declared an imaginary organization a terrorist organization and then bombed imaginary people? Then declared that it was in fact imaginary ~20 years after the fact.

This sounds confusing, but our own allies often do the same thing. It’s like waging a war against Antifa... they exist, but not really as anything their detractors describe them as.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
I still deal with dumbfuck Canadians who think antifa is some sort of traditional organization with hierarchy, funding, c&c, etc and swallow all of the “antifa false flag” narratives that news media or government mouthpieces like to cough up whenever racial minorities make a fun scapegoat. ETIM bears an awful lot of hallmarks of the same sort of thing from my initial read over the links that have been provided. I’m sure they exist or existed in some capacity, but it looks like a similar situation where detractors overstated their organization and blurred their intentions into a form that’s easy for people to swallow despite the explanation being way more complicated than the reality.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

A lot of Muslim terrorist groups have used it as a propaganda point but to my knowledge they’ve provided virtually no material support, same as with Myanmar.

From my understanding ETIM has served more as a way for various Al-Queda groups to do something with the manpower from pissed young males fleeing China, they’re probably more active in other countries than China, I don’t think they really have any capability there.

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

SpaceSDoorGunner posted:

I don’t think they really have any capability there.

The knife attack was a bunch of people with knives. Didn't take alot of capability to pull that off.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I need to read this. Hop to it Chinathread.

https://twitter.com/xu_xiuzhong/status/1359099203121651713

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001


This same app translates "please leave immediately" as "please get on the horse and leave" so I think it might be better than the real deal.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Mods please change my username to "Born Without Assholes"

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

China receives a "stinging loss of face" after being snubbed by EU leaders.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Eastern Europe turning out to be pretty politically savvy when it comes to dealing with large communist states trying to throw their weight around for some reason

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

Shumagorath posted:



This same app translates "please leave immediately" as "please get on the horse and leave" so I think it might be better than the real deal.

No one correct this, this is some Shakespeare level insults.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Shumagorath posted:



This same app translates "please leave immediately" as "please get on the horse and leave" so I think it might be better than the real deal.

Who are these insults being directed at? Why?

Is this just some random insulting another random? Or is this targeted abuse directed at a journalist/dissident/disharmonious counter-revolutionary?

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
its cuz she fucks whitey

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Tag yourself

I'm 'big onion big garlic'

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
800 years of blood mold history

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe
They had me at Long with chicken mother-in-law

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

Does anyone know if internally, the belt and road project is justified as a means to increase the export of Chinese surplus production? I remember the theorized need of capitalist economies to export surplus was important in early Cold War soviet thought. Now I’ve got to thinking it may still influence China’s current leaders. It was big in third worldist thought.

Sammus
Nov 30, 2005

ninjoatse.cx posted:

They had me at Long with chicken mother-in-law

I don't need to know what it actually says, just the fact that they're insulting the mother in law is beautiful.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
"yeah lol"

"you...dont venerate the mother in law in the west?"

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Alan Smithee posted:

"yeah lol"

"you...dont venerate the mother in law in the west?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_olqoCwvUUo

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

ninjoatse.cx posted:

They had me at Long with chicken mother-in-law

This is on the secret menu at a downtown Chinese place, I think.

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


It's CCTV Spring Festival Gala time, the (Lunar) New Year's Eve countdown show watched by hundreds of millions of people in China, so that means it's time for a Chinese person in blackface to perform an "African" song. Just like last year. And the year before. And maybe the year before too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEvAAaYz0O8

(Close-up of the actual blackface starts at around 0:37 but the whole thing is a globe-spanning whirlwind.)

Porfiriato fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Feb 11, 2021

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


The existence of the gala is remarkable, every year I forget how insane it is and then it happens.

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

Porfiriato posted:

It's CCTV Spring Festival Gala time, the (Lunar) New Year's Eve countdown show watched by hundreds of millions of people in China, so that means it's time for a Chinese person in blackface to perform an "African" song. Just like last year. And the year before. And maybe the year before too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEvAAaYz0O8

(Close-up of the actual blackface starts at around 0:37 but the whole thing is a globe-spanning whirlwind.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTWs3zvz1z4&t=532s

Marcade
Jun 11, 2006


Who are you to glizzy gobble El Vago's marshmussy?

Porfiriato posted:

It's CCTV Spring Festival Gala time, the (Lunar) New Year's Eve countdown show watched by hundreds of millions of people in China, so that means it's time for a Chinese person in blackface to perform an "African" song. Just like last year. And the year before. And maybe the year before too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEvAAaYz0O8

(Close-up of the actual blackface starts at around 0:37 but the whole thing is a globe-spanning whirlwind.)

I would ask what any of that had to do with LNY but I don't think an explanation would actually help.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


Porfiriato posted:

It's CCTV Spring Festival Gala time, the (Lunar) New Year's Eve countdown show watched by hundreds of millions of people in China, so that means it's time for a Chinese person in blackface to perform an "African" song. Just like last year. And the year before. And maybe the year before too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEvAAaYz0O8

(Close-up of the actual blackface starts at around 0:37 but the whole thing is a globe-spanning whirlwind.)

:wtc: This makes Eurovision seem sane and culturally sensitive

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Marcade posted:

I would ask what any of that had to do with LNY but I don't think an explanation would actually help.

The new year gala is unexplainable. That's the point. It's the most watched TV show in the world and it's a magical combination of staggering amounts of cocaine, racism, and nationalism.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
On a scale of 1 to shen yun how much

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


It's like triple Shen Yun at least

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?
https://twitter.com/guardiannews/status/1359960524511977481?s=20

    China’s National Radio and Television Administration said BBC World News’s coverage of China had violated requirements that news reporting be true and impartial and undermined China’s national interests and ethnic solidarity

gently caress you

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Grand Fromage posted:

It's like triple Shen Yun at least

15000 years of history, goddamn

poopnanners
May 3, 2016

hey guys lets party
BBC has already been blocked in China for years :shrug:

Edit: At least the website has been. Link doesn't work for me but this seems to reference the television service, which I don't think is available either.

poopnanners fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Feb 11, 2021

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Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
China will replace it with a homegrown version, the BBCCP

it will be become the most watched news network in the world despite being available only in one country (eat your heart out Fox News)

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