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Forget, forget, to the sixth of January What's-his-name tried something and failed [Phone keyboard threw in a stray word :/] Uglycat fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Feb 11, 2021 |
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Feb 11, 2021 19:17
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alpha_destroy posted:Quoting a bunch of Republican governors is a good idea. You are never going to get a conviction, but maybe you can drive the wedge that might divide the GOP... Probably not, but better shot than conviction probably. Yeah, and I thought it was a solid point to quote folks from the administration who resigned in the aftermath. It’s pretty clear why they included Elaine Chao’s statement.
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Feb 11, 2021 19:18
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DaveWoo posted:It should be called "The Trump Insurrection". Too many people would slip up and say The Trump Erection.
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Feb 11, 2021 19:19
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Can we at least call it "House Prosecutors Day"?
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Feb 11, 2021 19:20
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Uglycat posted:Forget, forget, to the sixth of ice January Very scary the sixth of January MAGAS, sedition, and shots. I know of no reason The January Treason Shall ever be forgot.
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Feb 11, 2021 19:20
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I kind of wish these people giving testimony would call out all the Republican senators who have already said that they would not vote for conviction. Something like "If you don't convict then you are enabling the insurrectionists and you are no better than the traitors who tried to kill your colleagues". Something that will really stick it to them and have them feel the weight, because right now I bet they aren't even paying attention.
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Feb 11, 2021 19:23
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Holy loving poo poo, this Cowboys 4 Trump guy.
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Feb 11, 2021 19:28
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There's two categories of yrupm voters. Those that like that he "triggers the libs", and those that like that he accelerates us toward the end of the federal machine. Accelerationist support for this fascist machine may GROW as a result of demonstrating that his behavior clearly posed an existential threat to the federal aparatus. And "trigger the libs" voters like images of AOC in tears. If the angle we take, in telling this narrative, begins with statist reverence for the US GOV'T, your history books may appear dated and biased. You don't have to revere the constitution (and the as-yet ongoing game of nomic that followed) to see that 45's behavior deliberately caused human suffering. Everyone's arguing about what constitutes a "high crime" while Trump's demeanor has been plainly apparent the whole time.
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Feb 11, 2021 19:31
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It’s really loving striking how much effort has gone into this trial. Compare with literally any other impeachment where the GOP has controlled the senate and it’s a complete endictment of their party.
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Feb 11, 2021 19:38
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Madkal posted:I kind of wish these people giving testimony would call out all the Republican senators who have already said that they would not vote for conviction. Something like "If you don't convict then you are enabling the insurrectionists and you are no better than the traitors who tried to kill your colleagues". Something that will really stick it to them and have them feel the weight, because right now I bet they aren't even paying attention.
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Feb 11, 2021 19:42
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Demiurge4 posted:It’s really loving striking how much effort has gone into this trial. Compare with literally any other impeachment where the GOP has controlled the senate and it’s a complete endictment of their party. It's also rare for so much of the evidence to come from the public sphere. There's very little new here, but organizing it into a narrative shows just how connected all this is rather than it just being a pile of isolated incidents.
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Feb 11, 2021 19:46
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https://twitter.com/PhilipinDC/status/1359931580903550979/photo/1 lol extremely cool poo poo, not even pretending to care
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Feb 11, 2021 19:47
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Demiurge4 posted:It’s really loving striking how much effort has gone into this trial. Compare with literally any other impeachment where the GOP has controlled the senate and it’s a complete endictment of their party. i will its also better than the Ukraine one as well, though schiff and co tried their best. eke out posted:https://twitter.com/PhilipinDC/status/1359931580903550979/photo/1 course not. they are trying to figure out their marching orders from their king and seeing which defense they go with.
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Feb 11, 2021 19:47
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eke out posted:https://twitter.com/PhilipinDC/status/1359931580903550979/photo/1 If anyone ever asks the difference between listening and waiting to talk, just show them that.
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Feb 11, 2021 19:49
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Why even be there? They know they have enough Rs to vote not to convict. Only thing this is going to do is name and shame those that voted to protect Trump and there’s 70million voters that want to hear that. In a few years people will forget.
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Feb 11, 2021 20:06
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Dapper_Swindler posted:course not. they are trying to figure out their marching orders from their king and seeing which defense they go with. Don't need to care when the real dealing is in the phone calls they get at night telling them how to vote or else.
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Feb 11, 2021 20:07
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Very scary the sixth of January The Republican Senator version Jan 6 Memory Holed and Forgot I Know of No Event And Definitely No Plot Trump is President And Joe Biden is Not
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Feb 11, 2021 20:08
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LOL of course that fucker is out golfing while the trial is going on.
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Feb 11, 2021 20:17
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happyhippy posted:Don't need to care when the real dealing is in the phone calls they get at night telling them how to vote or else. that too. that being said. i am weirdly surprised how amazing the house is doing with this.
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Feb 11, 2021 20:31
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Ringo Star Get posted:In a few years people will forget. 2000 years ago, the Roman republic underwent a series of crisis that led to their downfall and establishing an empire. The people involved and their words are studied to this day as one of the key moments in history. No matter what happens in this impeachment trial, people will not forget.
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Feb 11, 2021 20:32
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Ringo Star Get posted:Why even be there? They know they have enough Rs to vote not to convict. Only thing this is going to do is name and shame those that voted to protect Trump and there’s 70million voters that want to hear that. ehh, if people forgot poo poo. biden would be doing the same things clinton and obama did and we wouldnt be doing this impeachment. poo poo changes all the time, the issue is its only when its "sudden" that people notice.
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Feb 11, 2021 20:42
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Dapper_Swindler posted:ehh, if people forgot poo poo. biden would be doing the same things clinton and obama did and we wouldnt be doing this impeachment. poo poo changes all the time, the issue is its only when its "sudden" that people notice. No one's forgetting this for sure, the real question is what the consequences will be. The odds of the appropriate consequences for Trump might be low, but this is a pivotal moment for US politics no matter which way things go.
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Feb 11, 2021 20:49
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Random Stranger posted:2000 years ago, the Roman republic underwent a series of crisis that led to their downfall and establishing an empire. The people involved and their words are studied to this day as one of the key moments in history. We're no Rome and we're not making it to a thousand years--we're probably not making it to 300 years. The Columbian Exchange will be remembered in a thousand years, but not the United States.
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Feb 11, 2021 20:51
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Orthanc6 posted:No one's forgetting this for sure, the real question is what the consequences will be. The odds of the appropriate consequences for Trump might be low, but this is a pivotal moment for US politics no matter which way things go. i think alot of it is hurting the GOP. sure the GOP itself and their base have no shame so lol but alot of the fence sitter types and the moderates will probably be less likely to vote for them. i know enough moderates republican who will vote dem or vote 3rd party over the GOP now a days. enough of the majority and the suburbs have left the GOP and most folks under 40 hate the GOP/conservatism general as well. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Feb 11, 2021 |
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Feb 11, 2021 20:52
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Talking about the security impacts is interesting, but I could see defense using it to advantage. "He told you the country was broken!" I'm getting worried about them wrapping up in their final five hours. They have to tie this back to Trump incitement. (And personally I think it needs to be different than the repeat phone images we've been seeing from the violence.)
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Feb 11, 2021 20:55
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rome didn't fall until 1453, don't @ me
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Feb 11, 2021 20:56
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:We're no Rome and we're not making it to a thousand years--we're probably not making it to 300 years. The Columbian Exchange will be remembered in a thousand years, but not the United States. The United States hosed up a ton of historical poo poo. It'll be remembered, but not in a good light.
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Feb 11, 2021 20:56
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Rome is still there 
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Feb 11, 2021 20:57
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Pick posted:Rome is still there But now it's got a big Vatican in the middle of it which imo really brings the whole place down
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Feb 11, 2021 20:58
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:We're no Rome and we're not making it to a thousand years--we're probably not making it to 300 years. The Columbian Exchange will be remembered in a thousand years, but not the United States. Donald Trump is our Julius Ceaser. 2000 years from now he will be known for his famous Jan 06 coup that even though it failed set the stage for the glory that would be come the Patriotic Empire of North America under his son Donald Trump Jr. the First, Emperor.
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Feb 11, 2021 20:58
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CommieGIR posted:The United States hosed up a ton of historical poo poo. It'll be remembered, but not in a good light. Depends on how the next thousand years go and the ultimate significance assigned to global warming by people in the generations (I'm being optimistic here) after the immediate aftermath of it, imo.
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Feb 11, 2021 21:00
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:Talking about the security impacts is interesting, but I could see defense using it to advantage. "He told you the country was broken!" yeah. i think todays thing has been weaker. i get what they are trying to do and if they tie it together, its good. i think we should have witnesses. Aruan posted:rome didn't fall until 1453, don't @ me theoretically you can say 1918.
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Feb 11, 2021 21:01
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Murgos posted:Donald Trump is our Julius Ceaser. Caesar was a decisive military hero and strongman. I don't see the similarity tbh
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Feb 11, 2021 21:02
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Aruan posted:rome didn't fall until 1453, don't @ me *shoves glasses up nose* He was specific in referring to the fall of the Republic to become a dictatorial empire. Which is apt because unless civil or nuclear war ends the US overnight, the most likely course for it's fall is a descent into dictatorship followed by a long period of it being the indisputable bad guy, even by today's standards. That said no one is forgetting the US unless there's no one left to remember. The US invented the airplane, nukes, was first to put a man on a different celestial body and is the most powerful nation in history during the most dynamic 100 years in human history. How the US will be remembered we can't know, but it very much is a line in the sand of history just as much as Rome was.
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Feb 11, 2021 21:04
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Failed Imagineer posted:Caesar was a decisive military hero and strongman. I don't see the similarity tbh 2000 years of whitewash can do that for you. Dapper_Swindler posted:theoretically you can say 1918. Didn't they literally call themselves "The Empire of Rome" until 1453? Byzantium just being a convenience to tell it apart from the eastern empire?
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Feb 11, 2021 21:04
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:We're no Rome and we're not making it to a thousand years--we're probably not making it to 300 years. The Columbian Exchange will be remembered in a thousand years, but not the United States. That seems like a weird thing to claim when we can look 1000 years back into history and remember tons of nation-states, most of which didn't wield anything close to the influence of the United States. I think we're gonna be in the history books for a long, long time.
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Feb 11, 2021 21:05
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Murgos posted:2000 years of whitewash can do that for you. i mean yeah Byzantium but do you count HRE as a continuation too?
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Feb 11, 2021 21:07
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Well there's a quote that will be taken out of context. (Paraphrased) "They will say that under the first amendment, ..., ..., what Trump did was allowed". They're moving onto details about why the first amendment argument is a frivolous claim.
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Feb 11, 2021 21:08
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How are u posted:That seems like a weird thing to claim when we can look 1000 years back into history and remember tons of nation-states, most of which didn't wield anything close to the influence of the United States. I think we're gonna be in the history books for a long, long time. The Treaty of Westphalia was 1648
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Feb 11, 2021 21:08
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Orthanc6 posted:*shoves glasses up nose* He was specific in referring to the fall of the Republic to become a dictatorial empire. Which is apt because unless civil or nuclear war ends the US overnight, the most likely course for it's fall is a descent into dictatorship followed by a long period of it being the indisputable bad guy, even by today's standards. I have a feeling that the next 100 years are going to massively eclipse the 20th century in terms of dynamism, but not in the sense of accomplishment or progress. That century may be the 22nd, but it's definitely coming soon.
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Feb 11, 2021 21:09
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