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Pyrotoad posted:I had a teacher at school who claimed that he'd drink dirty water over clear water in a survival situation - his logic was that he has a rough idea of what bacteria and parasites he's risking with the dirty water, but the clear stuff could only be clear if it had something in it that killed all those things, and he'd have no idea if it could kill him too. He grew up in an industrial town so I guess chemical run-off into the water was an issue at the time? This is a strong contender for the dumbest thing I've read on these forums. Like, powerfully stupid.
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Platystemon posted:There are places where the water is clear because it’s snow melt and it came from one kilometre up the mountain you’re hiking up or whatever. Yeah I've drank the mountain water a couple times, usually when I'm high enough up that I'm bumping up on glaciers. I haven't gotten sick yet? But yeah down in the lowlands I'd rather not. You'd probably be fine though.
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I met a guy who got thirsty while hiking in Italy, figured he was at a high enough altitude to drink the water, and spent six months in the hospital with something horrible
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as I say, it was Italy, so it might have been giardia de Laurentiis
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Empty Sandwich posted:as I say, it was Italy, so it might have been giardia de Laurentiis Also known as boobonic plague.
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Pyrotoad posted:I don't know why people default to fish as the easy pet for kids nice bombina orientalis there in your av, pyrotoad my last firebellied toad is like 15+ years old now and refuses to die, you picked a good toad I like that a toad av guy has stuff to say about water quality. amphibians are a canary species when it comes to water quality so it fits. Also here in california you don't drink even high alpine spring water untreated because of the giardia risk, but that definitely does not mean that stagnant water is better, and you'd drink that untreated spring water if your other option was dying, for sure. Although in a survival situation, getting severe diarrhea can also kill you even faster, so... it's a rough choice to have to make. The moral of the story is to have a good filter with you when you go wandering around in the mountains, idiot
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Drinking creek/river water is basically like drinking diluted raw sewage. Lots of animal faeces get washed in when it rains, not to mention the animals that live in the waterway. In cold areas (alpine), you get fewer animals in the water and bacteria and parasites tend not to reproduce as fast (or die). If you're young and healthy and the water flow is good, the pathogen counts are pretty low and you'll probably fight off any infection. Just because the local river water is clear and there's no human pollution in the river doesn't mean it's safe, it's just safer than muddy stagnant ponds. Tons of people around here drink untreated water from rainwater tanks with no first-flush installed and don't get sick... until they do (and then go right back to drinking the bird-poop-roof water without adding chlorine because *natural*)
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It's amazing wild animals live as long as they do. We've clearly become genetically soft.
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Pablo Bluth posted:It's amazing wild animals live as long as they do. We've clearly become genetically soft. They’re full of parasites and stuff
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Yeah, there's a reason every animal description in a book has a line that goes something like: "The usual lifespan of this species is around 4 years in the wild, although individuals domesticated as pets have been known to live for as long as 12 years."
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SpaceSDoorGunner posted:They’re full of parasites and stuff
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# ? Feb 12, 2021 13:38 |
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Ocean parasites are cute sometimes.
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# ? Feb 12, 2021 14:27 |
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Bird poop roof water is delicious
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# ? Feb 12, 2021 14:42 |
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Drink it up
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just wanted to say thank you to the thread for the Alone recommendation. Show is excellent and imo it's really clear from the start who will last and who will not. Watching S07 and instantly was like "oh, this guys is a youtube 'survivalist', he'll be the first to go". laughed pretty hard when he almost immediately lost his firestarter
punishedkissinger fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Feb 12, 2021 |
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punishedkissinger posted:just wanted to say thank you to the thread for the Alone recommendation. I’d never seen it but started watching season six yesterday and now I’m on episode 9 already. Netflix only has season six what’s the best place to see other seasons?
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# ? Feb 12, 2021 14:50 |
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Hulu has 1–6. I also watched the Netflix season first, but I think it's probably better to go in order if you can. It looks like season 7 is only available through the history channel for now
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# ? Feb 12, 2021 15:40 |
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If you happen to have Comcast/Xfinity service, they have every season available on demand.
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# ? Feb 12, 2021 16:01 |
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Definitely wait on watching the Alone season in Mongolia (S5?), it’s a “redemption” season with contestants that didn’t win their respective seasons and has spoilers galore (including the fact that everyone on the show clearly didn’t win their respective season). Otherwise there’s no harm in watching them out of order beyond a rare reference to other contestants/past seasons here and there. I watched the Netflix season (S6, Yukon Terr) first, and the only thing it ruined for the rest of the seasons was that no woman has ever won, since one contestant says “I’d love to be the first woman to win.”
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# ? Feb 12, 2021 16:07 |
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I started on season 6 today. Already enjoying the bloke who didn't bring a firestarter, failed to make a fire and didn't build a shelter on the first day. I don't have high hopes for him.
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# ? Feb 12, 2021 17:20 |
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A few years back the Try Guys did their own take on Alone to promote it.
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# ? Feb 12, 2021 21:27 |
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Just downloaded Alone seasons 1-5 because of this thread, looking forward to watching it.
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RobotCoupeDetat posted:Also, anecdata: among my group of friends who climb, backpack, ski, mountaineer, ski-mountaineer, etc., there's about a dozen ACL tears (all at resorts, though), about half a dozen climbing accidents ranging from calcaneus fractures to death (1), and one lightning strike (he lived and still climbs). Literally zero attacks by bears or other wildlife. TBF, bears are not noted for their big-wall technique.
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# ? Feb 13, 2021 18:13 |
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i really liked Larry from Season 2 Also the dude from el Salvador in the most recent season he was awesome.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:TBF, bears are not noted for their big-wall technique. Counterpoint: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAB9-VGIkzM
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Holy cats.
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# ? Feb 14, 2021 00:44 |
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Are they cancelling this year's Everest season due to covid? (I know the answer will be no)
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Pekinduck posted:Are they cancelling this year's Everest season due to covid? Just an opportunity to be the first person with covid to climb Everest
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IShallRiseAgain posted:The best move is not to be in the military. One dude instantly bailed at the start as soon as he saw evidence of bears being around. Started watching this, and I can't blame the dude. The evidence he finds is literally finding the bear and her cubs living close to his camp. Looking over the list of items they get to choose 10 of, I think I would go tarp, rope, hatchet, and then use the other 7 items to get 35 lbs. of food. PostNouveau fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Feb 14, 2021 |
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Is sleeping bag one of them? That seems worth 5lbs of food
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# ? Feb 14, 2021 01:26 |
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They get some stuff by default I’ll find the list
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# ? Feb 14, 2021 01:31 |
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i think you'd have to bring a pot to boil water in
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# ? Feb 14, 2021 01:32 |
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it changes by season slightly I think but https://www.history.com/shows/alone/articles/gear-list
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HugeGrossBurrito posted:it changes by season slightly I think but It was news to me that a sleeping bag, pot, tarp, and ferro rod count as 4 of your items. So really they have like 6 items to choose since you absolutely can't survive without those. I don't think we've seen a competitor make it 3 days without them. Then you have a knife of some kind, an ax and/or saw, fishing line, and basically the choice is whether to bring a bow or another knife or whether or not you bring a gill net. There's really only like 2-3 items where they have any real choice. Which I guess is the point, the limits are severe enough that your choices are going to have a huge impact on what you can do. I have watched all the seasons and there's been several times when the lack of a particular item (that other contestants commonly had) or losing an item sent someone home.
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# ? Feb 14, 2021 02:58 |
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one of those 10 items should be a fuckin OSHA manual
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# ? Feb 14, 2021 03:15 |
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I just watched a guy kill a musk ox with a knife so im pretty sure Alone isnt fake at this point
punishedkissinger fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Feb 14, 2021 |
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punishedkissinger posted:I just watched a guy kill a musk ox woth a knife so im pretty sure Alone isnt fake at this point First half of the show seems pretty luck-based. Other than the guy who lost his firestarter thing, everyone who made it for the long haul seems to have gotten a good starting location.
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# ? Feb 14, 2021 06:56 |
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I mean bears are pretty renowned for being good climbers. This is generally in the context of "don't climb a tree if you see a bear", but still.
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# ? Feb 14, 2021 08:06 |
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The guy that brought a Kukri as his knife season one bothered me it just seems like an odd choice like it’d be a pain in the rear end to gut fish and do other stuff where you need a lot of control with such a curved blade but maybe you get used to it. I’d probably either bring a real beefy pocket knife or a 10” Bowie or something.
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I started watching Alone via the netflix season and the ferro rod guy is amazing. It sounds like he brought a fishing net instead???
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