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Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Here it is, a thread to talk about Everest, and the summit attempts thereof.

Everest has a history of being attempted by folks who do not belong there, and pay a severe price for going. See the previous thread for a particularly harsh discussion of that reality.

The tail end of that thread had moved away from that earlier tone, and I'm happy for that discussion to continue on here.

Namaste!

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Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
https://twitter.com/NatGeo/status/1283794863172063236?s=20

they even picked the yellow north face jacket

Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006
Looks like the climbing a mountain in the snow thread says marked for deletion and wont accept posts. are there any other climbing threads I can check out?

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Crime on a Dime posted:

Looks like the climbing a mountain in the snow thread says marked for deletion and wont accept posts. are there any other climbing threads I can check out?

Which one is that?

Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006

Jaded Burnout posted:

Which one is that?

user error. browsing on app and scrolled :2fast:.

i did a good trek in nepal but i was really young, we stayed below the altitude sickness zone

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
So do people die of Everest or with Everest now? Is the mountain a comorbidity?

Wipfmetz
Oct 12, 2007

Sitzen ein oder mehrere Wipfe in einer Lore, so kann man sie ueber den Rand der Lore hinausschauen sehen.
If you're left on the mountain: "on" everest.
If you fall to your death: "near/next to" everest, depending where the majority of your remains remain.
If you die two weeks after your climbing tour and everest traces can be found in your blood: "with" everest.
hth.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Cause of death: mountain (climbing)

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

Crime on a Dime posted:

Looks like the climbing a mountain in the snow thread says marked for deletion and wont accept posts. are there any other climbing threads I can check out?

If you want actual climbing: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3522567

We don't really discuss long walks in snow. More actual technical climbing.

Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006

spwrozek posted:

If you want actual climbing: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3522567

We don't really discuss long walks in snow. More actual technical climbing.

thanks op. i think that is what im looking for

Stunt_enby
Feb 6, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
gas

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Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

K2 is cooler

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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Inceltown posted:

K2 is cooler

Depends if you're going for quality or quantity.

But don't forget: "Quantity has a quality all of it's own".

Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006

Inceltown posted:

K2 is cooler

i really loved the Annapurna ranges

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Annapurna is just Everest but you have to play Russian roulette with the avalanches.

K2 is the rightful king of the mountains. It was slighted by the gods and it is justifiably furious about it.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

OP insufficiently morbid, please copy-paste old OP

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
No thanks, it was pretty trash.

Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006

Platystemon posted:

Annapurna is just Everest but you have to play Russian roulette with the avalanches.

K2 is the rightful king of the mountains. It was slighted by the gods and it is justifiably furious about it.

im talking about the ranges below the mountains and in summer.. no snow. very beautiful country i would love to go again

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Cojawfee posted:

No thanks, it was pretty trash.

Lol

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


It is worth noting that climbing Everest literally makes you more stupid.

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

Crime on a Dime posted:

i really loved the Annapurna ranges

Not gonna lie, I hate the commercialism of the mountains there but would leave to go spend a few months there at the drop of a hat. Not to peakbag, it's just so pretty.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Cojawfee posted:

No thanks, it was pretty trash.

Everest is also mostly trash at this point.

Aphex-
Jan 29, 2006

Dinosaur Gum
Anyone with an interest in the Himalayas should definitely hike the Annapurna Circuit at some point. One of the coolest things I've ever done.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Platystemon posted:

Everest is also mostly trash at this point.

Surely the $4k fine on a trip that costs six figures to set up will convince people to bring their trash down.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Munin posted:

It is worth noting that climbing Everest literally makes you more stupid.

Permanently or just during the time you're not getting enough oxygen?

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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PostNouveau posted:

Permanently or just during the time you're not getting enough oxygen?

I think they're talking about the thread

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



xzzy posted:

Surely the $4k fine on a trip that costs six figures to set up will convince people to bring their trash down.

1 minute off your official summitting time for each pound of trash you haul back

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Captain Hygiene posted:

1 minute off your official summitting time for each pound of trash you haul back

Gonna be the first-ever half-Inuit Canadian national fibromyalgia sufferer to get a negative summit time

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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Didn't haul a full bag of poo poo off the mountain? Go back and do it again.

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

PostNouveau posted:

Permanently or just during the time you're not getting enough oxygen?

Why not both?

MW
May 20, 2001

"Nooooooooo!?"
I have unironically been thinking of climbing Everest (via a guided expedition of course). But I probably won't because of the risks involved and I couldn't do that to my wife and children. Nevertheless, wife has given me OK to go to first base camp and I'm looking at going 2022.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

MW posted:

I have unironically been thinking of climbing Everest (via a guided expedition of course). But I probably won't because of the risks involved and I couldn't do that to my wife and children. Nevertheless, wife has given me OK to go to first base camp and I'm looking at going 2022.

Please don't climb the thing. Give the money to local people instead and feel the glow that comes from not risking anyone else's life.

I'll never forget that 'Everest' TV show - one of the guys was sitting on the mountain and saying earnestly "There's nothing in my life more important than my children" and I couldn't help but think, well obviously there is.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

MW posted:

I have unironically been thinking of climbing Everest (via a guided expedition of course). But I probably won't because of the risks involved and I couldn't do that to my wife and children. Nevertheless, wife has given me OK to go to first base camp and I'm looking at going 2022.

Reading about Everest makes me really want to go hike to base camp, then go climb Denali or something on a different occasion. Plenty of actual mountaineering and beautiful views, much lower chance of my brain melting in the thin air.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

idunno Ben Nevis is only 4400' MSL and still manages to kill 3 or 4 people every year

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

MW posted:

I have unironically been thinking of climbing Everest (via a guided expedition of course). But I probably won't because of the risks involved and I couldn't do that to my wife and children. Nevertheless, wife has given me OK to go to first base camp and I'm looking at going 2022.

I think the old thread had someone who'd hiked to base camp. It's not without its risks, but way less risky than actually trying to climb the loving thing.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



PittTheElder posted:

Reading about Everest makes me really want to go hike to base camp, then go climb Denali or something on a different occasion. Plenty of actual mountaineering and beautiful views, much lower chance of my brain melting in the thin air.

Yeah, I can see the attraction in getting to base camp and hiking around to see astounding scenery, but actually attempting summitting just seems like weird masochism and a pointless gamble for your life & safety. And that's besides all the weird implications about pollution and exploitation.

bus hustler
Mar 14, 2019

My understanding as someone who has read a bunch of books about Everest/K2 etc is that the trip into base camp involves almost no mountaineering, is still at quite a bit of altitude, and is really just an incredibly long unscenic muddy slog. There are also big issues on the approach trails to the "big" mountains as human waste does not degrade at that altitude. On the way to K2 there is basically a small oasis spot that is covered in human poo poo.

Do Rainer, Shasta, and a bunch of 14,000ers in CO before even thinking about climbing at any altitude in nepal.

If you want a long hike do some of the PCT. If you want a long and hard hike that's more vertical ascending than everest & also overpopulated do the AT. if you are cool and extremely fertile and desirable by the opposite sex do the CDT.

Empty Sandwich
Apr 22, 2008

goatse mugs
but do not do the CBT without lots of training

last month's National Geographic cover story was Everest, but I still haven't read it

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

charity rereg posted:

My understanding as someone who has read a bunch of books about Everest/K2 etc is that the trip into base camp involves almost no mountaineering, is still at quite a bit of altitude, and is really just an incredibly long unscenic muddy slog. There are also big issues on the approach trails to the "big" mountains as human waste does not degrade at that altitude. On the way to K2 there is basically a small oasis spot that is covered in human poo poo.

It's still very pretty. A photographer youtuber I watch did a week long hiking trip that involved a stop at Everest base camp and it totally looks to be worth the effort if you got a ton of money and want to go somewhere exotic. Unfortunately he got altitude sickness and had to descend to recover so he didn't actually make the base camp, but the stuff he did see was gorgeous.

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spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

I would only go to the area if you want to go to Nepal. The rest of Everest is just not interesting to me. The risk, the cost, the time, the questionable ethics...not for me. Especially when you can get great views all over the place. That said if you want to do it then do it. I know people who have hiked at lower elevations in Nepal and said it was amazing.

A few examples:

Go to Refugio Frey in Argentina (or any of the Refugio):



RMNP:



Indian Peaks:



Interior of British Columbia:




Heck you can even go to the desert!



These all can be summer photos as well but where is the fun in that.

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