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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Is there an Epstein Foundation or anything currently tasked with the rehabilitation of his image. lol https://kiseki.fandom.com/wiki/Epstein_Foundation 
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there is an Epstein victim fund but I’m guessing that doesn’t count. if I’m not mistaken I recently saw that it’s funds were frozen by virgin island authorities over concerns of liquidity. I’m pretty sure the fund was supposed to have like 260 mill to give out—would be curious to know if anyone not a victim is claiming it
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Feb 9, 2021 19:43
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do we know the mechanism of promis' back door or how accessing it would have been invisible to network security?
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Feb 9, 2021 20:30
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I still haven't read up that much on it, but just as speculation I think that rather than remote access, there may have been agents employed at relevant places who would use the backdoor to gain much more access than they should have been allowed, and then exfiltrate any needed info the old-fashioned way.
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Feb 9, 2021 21:13
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anyone ever look at a promis eula? even if it’s just for hospital software or something
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gh0stpinballa posted:there is a good 31 part series of 5 minute segments on PROMIS and the octopus a local tv station KESQ did, by ace reporter nathan baca. i found it the other day: everyone should watch this series, it's pretty wild. it starts off slow and ramps up and gets crazier.
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Feb 9, 2021 22:55
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Cached Money posted:everyone should watch this series, it's pretty wild. it starts off slow and ramps up and gets crazier. just hit part 12 and loving kapow
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Feb 9, 2021 23:54
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https://twitter.com/nrlachance/status/1359213650389663746?s=19
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nut posted:just hit part 12 and loving kapow Cached Money posted:everyone should watch this series, it's pretty wild. it starts off slow and ramps up and gets crazier. i found myself growing very fond of ace reporter nathan baca as it went on, too. a clearly sincere and professional guy who finds himself crack pinging in bush's amerika. episode 7 is the pivot for me, where he is given the run around by different departments. he's still having to abide by the unspoken code of conduct and visual tropes of tv news - the bit where he's reenacting walking in and out of different buildings to illustrate his investigation has this hilariously stiff and surreal quality - but you can tell he is vibrating inside. this button down, amiable local news reporter senses some dark and unfathomable lovecraftian horror may be looming out of the murk. it creates a great meta narrative. big fan of nathan baca.
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Real hurthling! posted:do we know the mechanism of promis' back door or how accessing it would have been invisible to network security? An undocumented chip on computers sold to run it (e: on second look, actually hidden on any computer at all, not just those sold for PROMIS use by government) was allegedly capable of turning the power lines to it into an antenna. The chip slowly drew ambient power from the board to remain undetected, then released/leaked its data in a burst upon an external signal. The data could be key logs from the bus the keyboard is on. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROMIS_(software) quote:A book written in 1997 by Fabrizio Calvi and Thierry Pfister claimed that the National Security Agency (NSA) had been "seeding computers abroad with PROMIS-embedded SMART (Systems Management Automated Reasoning Tools) chips, code-named Petrie, capable of covertly downloading data and transmitting it, using electrical wiring as an antenna, to U.S. intelligence satellites" as part of an espionage operation.[1] Here's a much longer article on PROMIS that can't be found anymore, but it's on web archives: https://web.archive.org/web/2020092...-danny-casolaro quote:An NSA integrated circuit manufacturing facility in the Silicon Valley allegedly produced the “Petrie Chip” which the CIA contractor covertly inserted into the computers equipped with the PROMIS software. Our friend cuppy seems to have read about this at some point, because I first heard about the concept from them, of computers designed to leak data even when unpowered. Happy Thread has issued a correction as of 05:00 on Feb 10, 2021 |
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Feb 10, 2021 04:50
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You can buy the book on PROMIS by Calvin and Pfister, L'Oeil De Washington, on french and german amazon, but not on us amazon, I'm not sure if there's an English translation anywhere though.
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i am somehow not shocked that The Controllers, a book(?) that basically says "this technically probably never occurred" in every footnote, would lead me to check out some of the citations and they would, in turn, lead me to places like http://fractalfield.com/ and https://phisciences.com/
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Feb 10, 2021 09:05
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Absolutely fantastic. Human brains are amazing
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gh0stpinballa posted:i found myself growing very fond of ace reporter nathan baca as it went on, too. a clearly sincere and professional guy who finds himself crack pinging in bush's amerika. episode 7 is the pivot for me, where he is given the run around by different departments. he's still having to abide by the unspoken code of conduct and visual tropes of tv news - the bit where he's reenacting walking in and out of different buildings to illustrate his investigation has this hilariously stiff and surreal quality - but you can tell he is vibrating inside. this button down, amiable local news reporter senses some dark and unfathomable lovecraftian horror may be looming out of the murk. it creates a great meta narrative. big fan of nathan baca. like every 2-3 parts there's a new twist. It was very surreal watching it through these 3 minute news drops. By like 10 parts in I thought I was watching some sequel to twin peaks. R.L. Stine posted:i am somehow not shocked that The Controllers, a book(?) that basically says "this technically probably never occurred" in every footnote, would lead me to check out some of the citations and they would, in turn, lead me to places like http://fractalfield.com/ and https://phisciences.com/ Hahaha yeah the majority of the controllers is insane. I got it on a lark but there was some new info on cia-paid researchers I was really looking for and is well substantiated.
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Regarding Signal: do people really not know there's a network designed to intercept pretty much all electronic communications under ECHELON, rendering the choice of app or method of communication completely moot? Signal is end to end encrypted, which means having access to the servers or data stream between users is useless. The way to intercept messages between users is to compromise the device it is being used on, there are a number of ways you can do that. Recently the French and Dutch police hacked into the Encro network. Encro was a provider of pre configured phones that were configured with a special version of Android with a hidden mode where you could communicate securely through a special chat application called EncroChat. What the cops did was that they hacked the server that pushed system updates to the subscribers of the service and uploaded their own backdoored version where they could view people's screens and take screenshots remotely to reveal the encrypted messages (which were impossible to intercept otherwise).
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Feb 10, 2021 13:03
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there are parts missing of the octopus series, does anyone have the whole thing?
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Feb 10, 2021 13:39
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Given the ease of access in many countries it seems like a rational mind would conclude that yes, absolutely the CIA would either directly or indirectly facilitate assets getting access to sex workers of any kind, the higher value asset the more likely they'd be to grant extreme requests.
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Feb 10, 2021 13:52
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I think with the amount of repetition in previous and subsequent episodes that we’re not missing much, but drat I wish that French book was in English
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Feb 10, 2021 13:53
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let this former bcci guy answer what this redditor was too cowardly too https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1992/03/19/bcci-clients-offered-prostitutes-hill-told/4670bc66-fb9e-4cb4-a0c6-5e43e1258e36/
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Cached Money posted:Signal is end to end encrypted, which means having access to the servers or data stream between users is useless. The way to intercept messages between users is to compromise the device it is being used on, there are a number of ways you can do that. Recently the French and Dutch police hacked into the Encro network. Encro was a provider of pre configured phones that were configured with a special version of Android with a hidden mode where you could communicate securely through a special chat application called EncroChat. What the cops did was that they hacked the server that pushed system updates to the subscribers of the service and uploaded their own backdoored version where they could view people's screens and take screenshots remotely to reveal the encrypted messages (which were impossible to intercept otherwise). Thank you for that. I guess it makes sense to anticipate that any heretofore 'secret' method of communication that was not originally designed with a backdoor such as that would eventually be corrupted after the fact by the relevant parties.
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Anybody have a link to the home video that shows Timothy McVeigh in the background at an army base after he was discharged but before the bombing? Edit: found the og link i had but the video seems to be deleted https://twitter.com/bustr4/status/1050053452519395330?s=19 Mr Hootington has issued a correction as of 05:17 on Feb 11, 2021 |
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R.L. Stine posted:i am somehow not shocked that The Controllers, a book(?) that basically says "this technically probably never occurred" in every footnote, would lead me to check out some of the citations and they would, in turn, lead me to places like http://fractalfield.com/ and https://phisciences.com/ What I flicked through of the book after it being mentioned here was pretty whacko but the core point of the original post of "hey, it's kind of weird that nobody ever ponders how Betty and Barney Hill's civil rights activism might be related to them having an 'abduction experience' in the middle of MK Ultra" kinda stands Like, people mention that them being an interracial couple was uncommon at the time but then that's as far as anything examining their story tends to go in mentioning it. Regardless of the initial source it's a real "hey, yeah, hang on" thing for me
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Mr Hootington posted:Anybody have a link to the home video that shows Timothy McVeigh in the background at an army base after he was discharged but before the bombing? I have this link, it appears to be only a small clip but I don't know how long that Youtube video was. https://twitter.com/influensopher/status/1352152849971441664
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Feb 11, 2021 09:51
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nut posted:How big of civil rights activists were Barney and Betty Hill before they got abducted and had their lives fall apart? asking for a friend holy poo poo what have you done to me
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Feb 11, 2021 16:51
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Ok finally got to watch the Octopus Murders investigation and it was absolutely insane. Like both in content and form as a sort of almost novelty (in this day and age) local news special report. It's driving me nuts though. So the implication coming off of it is that Mcgowan did not kills his family and that seems to be the working theory of many others who said they would not like to get "suicided" like that. I've tried googling but haven't been able to find any other developments since these aired.
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Feb 11, 2021 19:57
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the 911 call where the family member is just immediately blown away as soon as the operator picks up is very non congruent with a murder suicide where the killer would have the ability to murder everyone while they slept or with some manner of family trust working to his benefit so that no calls were made OR at the very least would not care if the person called for help because he was going to shoot himself too anyway.
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Homora Gaykemi posted:What I flicked through of the book after it being mentioned here was pretty whacko but the core point of the original post of "hey, it's kind of weird that nobody ever ponders how Betty and Barney Hill's civil rights activism might be related to them having an 'abduction experience' in the middle of MK Ultra" kinda stands Oh yeah, I'm totally down with the basic idea and I think it completely tracks, it would make perfect sense as an avenue of continued human experimentation and ensuing coverup. But the book itself is extremely poorly researched to the point where I was spending more time checking (and usually dismissing as garbage) his sources than actually reading the book which is what, like 90 pages to begin with. Still, it solidified the idea in my head that not only was this a possible explanation for alien abductions (or rather, the type of alien abductions that seem to be uniquely American or America-adjacent) but one that also fits the timeline, fits with the motivations and internal politics of these agencies involved, and fits the methods (mostly, this is where the book started to have me do some actual fact checking) that these agencies would and could apply, and the methods they would use to cover it up.
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For those of us who are just confused as hell, there were apparently two different David McGowan's. One was a California DA, and the other was the author / deep-state investigator (the one who nailed a perfect description of 9/11 on 9/12). Two different people. The former died of "suicided along with their family", the latter died of "anonymously threatened online with cancer, then sure enough got unusually aggressive lung cancer". Took me way too long to figure out why my memory was playing tricks on me.
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Idle historical parallel I was thinking of earlier; if we're talking about American deep state conspiracies bound by blackmail one could probably look at the Klan more? Famously one of their leaders- DC Stephenson- got convicted of a pretty heinous rape and took a bunch of people down with him by releasing blackmail material. I don't know a ton about the period but we've got plenty of people here who might want to look into it
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nut posted:also how do we get a new thread title without it coming from Ghislane testimony? a couple reminders: I read this in Liz Franzak’s voice
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Real hurthling! posted:the 911 call where the family member is just immediately blown away as soon as the operator picks up is very non congruent with a murder suicide where the killer would have the ability to murder everyone while they slept or with some manner of family trust working to his benefit so that no calls were made OR at the very least would not care if the person called for help because he was going to shoot himself too anyway. i think that was the dude shooting himself
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gh0stpinballa posted:there is a good 31 part series of 5 minute segments on PROMIS and the octopus a local tv station KESQ did, by ace reporter nathan baca. i found it the other day: kramered my way into the last page of this thread having not read the entire thing yet, clicked this, watched it all, and may i just say yo what the gently caress e: it's a weird pivot halfway through though when it gets to the 80s stuff - it briefly mentions mcgowan might have been on that case but otherwise it doesn't seem connected really? it's still all hosed though and like, these videos are all at like 400 views what the gently caress
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gently caress COREY PERRY posted:kramered my way into the last page of this thread having not read the entire thing yet, clicked this, watched it all, and may i just say yo what the gently caress If I'm understanding it correctly, the DA investigator McGowan was looking into PROMIS, which was part of what the triple murder in the 80s was done to cover up. EDIT: For everyone who watched that series, here's the follow up to it: https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/07/murder-charges-dropped-against-jimmy-hughes.html My bet is that the "new information" was that jimmy was (and still is) far more useful to the ruling class running a ministry service that deals with Honduran children than he was as a convicted murderer. Regulus74 has issued a correction as of 06:10 on Feb 12, 2021 |
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they haven't made any wide ranging allegations that actually tie into anything epsteiny unless I missed. just a very strange murder and a very strange cover up. I've "only" watched twelve parts
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Once man has searched and inquired in order to understand and climb from one level to another, and has finally reached the end level of all [of Malkuth] he is asked: WHAT? [M"H] What have you learned? What have you seen? What have you investigated, since everything is still concealed, just as it was before?
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