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Tolkien's Middle-Earth: There Is Absolutely No Way It Can Get Worse. Or any of them really.
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Feb 10, 2021 22:51
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I feel a certain melancholy between how wonderful that list is and that I don't know anyone who would appreciate it as much as I do.
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Feb 11, 2021 00:35
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The Ainulindalë posted:Then Ilúvatar said to them: 'Of the theme that I have declared to you, I will now that ye make in harmony together a Great Music. And since I have kindled you with the Flame Imperishable, ye shall show forth your powers in adorning this theme, each with his own thoughts and devices, if he will.' Eru is explicitly fine with improvisation, encouraging even.
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Feb 11, 2021 00:48
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Anshu posted:Eru is explicitly fine with improvisation, encouraging even. Yeah but not Jazz.
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Feb 11, 2021 01:32
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Data Graham posted:I remember most of these, some from other contexts like James Herriot etc Cot is cottage!? I always thought it was kind of grim that orcs were running about setting fire to infant's beds. I usually pictured long hairy arms reaching through open windows, match in hand.
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Feb 11, 2021 01:55
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Arcsquad12 posted:Difference being that Mann's adaptation is an objective improvement over the novel because the they bothered to research the various nations working alongside the French and English during the war rather than the crapshoot that Cooper wrote. Well, they did dances-with-wolves level of research. Which was good for the 90's, I guess, but the movie still conflates Mohicans and Mohawks which are entirely different nations. And as good as Mann et al's intentions were, the movie can't overcome the mythological bedrock of the story, which is a hella problematic fantasy of manifest destiny.
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Feb 11, 2021 04:21
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Blood Boils posted:Well, they did dances-with-wolves level of research. Which was good for the 90's, I guess, but the movie still conflates Mohicans and Mohawks which are entirely different nations. True enough. Still, Wes Studi is so good that the movie can just as easily be viewed as Magua's justifiable revenge on the Europeans.
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Feb 11, 2021 06:06
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:It's not just about destroying the subtleties in the visual spectrum, the Jackson movies also removed a lot of the emotional subtleties. I think time is going to be hard on those movies and by the 2030's they're going to be considered bad adaptations that need to be rectified. Why wait? They've been bad adaptations for years already. Good costumes good music, good landscapes, some good casting. Trash scripts. Even though it's considered the best one, Fellowship is poorly-paced and weirdly jumbled, it's changeforchangessake.txt in structure, characterisation and content. Some of the changes were good, some were needed to fit the type of film they were making. Some are just weird and make the story more confusing. Even worse some have no impact at all. It's really heavy-handed adaptation. sassassin fucked around with this message at 11:30 on Feb 11, 2021 |
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Feb 11, 2021 11:27
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We have argued about them plenty and there is no pointy rehashing it right now. We all know each other's stances on them ITT. What I will say is I do not think anyone outside of Tolkien purists will start seeing those films are bad adaptations needing a remake. They are still quite beloved by a lot of people as evidenced by memes and such being shared by a younger generation who were babies when they were released or born well after. The changes are glaring to people like us who read the drat thing once every year or so, but to lots of other people, they are not going to care that Merry and Pippin were relegated to comic relief until ROTK. However they will likely be remade because Hollywood will never change and I'm sure by the 2030s the view will be "those things are 30 years old now, great time to refresh with a new audience!" And we will get like loving Chris Pratt as Aragorn and old Keanu as Gandalf
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Feb 11, 2021 16:38
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WoodrowSkillson posted:old Keanu as Gandalf I'd honestly be down with that as long as he's not allowed to use his Dracula accent.
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Feb 11, 2021 18:51
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I mean they are making a TV show right now
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Feb 11, 2021 19:10
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euphronius posted:I mean they are making a TV show right now I'm so ready to get totally disappointed by it when they start with some cool stuff and then just have absolute hot garbage for plots and then clumsily tell the akallabeth
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Feb 11, 2021 19:35
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For those of us thread posters who in addition to being Tolkien geeks are tabletop RPG geeks as well, the licensed RPG The One Ring is kickstarting its 2nd edition. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1192053011/the-one-ring-roleplaying-game-second-edition Lemniscate Blue fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Feb 11, 2021 |
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Feb 11, 2021 20:54
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Geeks? In my Tolkien thread?
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Feb 11, 2021 21:09
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7 or 8 years from now Pete Davidson will make a fine Frodo.
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Feb 12, 2021 03:07
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Arcsquad12 posted:True enough. Still, Wes Studi is so good that the movie can just as easily be viewed as Magua's justifiable revenge on the Europeans. Yeah making Magua an actual character is a definite improvement over previous versions. Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:7 or 8 years from now Pete Davidson will make a fine Frodo. I think he'd be better as Gollum or Legolas. Who would be Sexy Gandalf?
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Feb 12, 2021 07:49
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Blood Boils posted:Yeah making Magua an actual character is a definite improvement over previous versions. By the law of LOTR Adaptations, Elijah Wood is contractually bound to play Bilbo
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Feb 12, 2021 10:03
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webmeister posted:By the law of LOTR Adaptations, Elijah Wood is contractually bound to play Bilbo Give him 15 years he might look old enough to play Frodo.
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Feb 12, 2021 11:08
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sassassin posted:Give him 15 years he might look old enough to play Frodo. If he shaved his head he could play Gollum, no need for CGI.
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Feb 12, 2021 11:48
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Blood Boils posted:Yeah making Magua an actual character is a definite improvement over previous versions.
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Feb 12, 2021 12:41
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Jared Leto If we're going to put that terrible a curse on it let's have Mel Gibson as Denethor.
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Feb 12, 2021 12:57
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Adam Driver as Elrond
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Feb 12, 2021 13:25
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Salma Hayek as Sexy Gandalf
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Feb 12, 2021 15:49
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Tom Hanks as Gandalf Nicholas Cage as Aragorn Dave Bautista as Boromir
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Feb 12, 2021 15:55
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Hugh Grant as the Witch King
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Feb 12, 2021 16:24
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Antonio Banderas as Saruman.
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Feb 12, 2021 16:28
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Riff Raff as Denethor
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Feb 12, 2021 16:33
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Tim Curry as Gandalf.
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Feb 12, 2021 16:41
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Southpaugh posted:Tim Curry as Gandalf. No that would actually own
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Feb 12, 2021 16:47
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I want to see Denethor played by Charles Dance.
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Feb 12, 2021 17:00
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The Council of Elrond and every character is Tim Curry.
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Feb 12, 2021 17:07
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Feb 12, 2021 17:10
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Kristen Wiig as Galadriel
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Feb 12, 2021 17:15
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Melissa McCarthy as Samwise Sarah and Laura Silverman as Merry and Pippin
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Feb 12, 2021 17:17
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Kristen Schaal as Galadriel
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Feb 12, 2021 17:40
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Southpaugh posted:Tim Curry as Gandalf. tim curry as annatar
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Feb 12, 2021 17:44
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macaulay culkin as legolas
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Feb 12, 2021 17:45
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you're hurting me
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Feb 12, 2021 17:47
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Lindsey Lohan as Galadriel
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Feb 12, 2021 17:53
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Besides Alan Cumming should play literally every role
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Feb 12, 2021 17:53
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