Soylent Pudding posted:

I was just trying to remember this movie because I liked it as a kid.

Pastel Candy Snake posted:

https://twitter.com/StevenMKestner/status/1359942325758119936

there wolf posted:

No love for Worst Witch, another magic school property that predated Harry Potter, but with Tim Curry singing a truely terrible song in what was probably the most phone-in performance of his life?

The whole Harry Potter isn't original thing is dumb anyway. Its' just a bunch of people acting like Rowling was a plagiarist when she was overtly writing a genre mashup in full light of the tropes and conventions of those genres. Books of Magic is like HP in the way the the Dark is Rising or Narnia is like HP, in that its all very British children's fantasy books where a chosen kid/chosen kids journey into a magical realm. Smash that together with a British boarding school novel, and you have Harry Potter.

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ultrafilter posted:

https://twitter.com/SheRatesDogs/status/1359952332109144065

there wolf posted:

No love for Worst Witch, another magic school property that predated Harry Potter, but with Tim Curry singing a truely terrible song in what was probably the most phone-in performance of his life?

there wolf posted:

The whole Harry Potter isn't original thing is dumb anyway. Its' just a bunch of people acting like Rowling was a plagiarist when she was overtly writing a genre mashup in full light of the tropes and conventions of those genres. Books of Magic is like HP in the way the the Dark is Rising or Narnia is like HP, in that its all very British children's fantasy books where a chosen kid/chosen kids journey into a magical realm. Smash that together with a British boarding school novel, and you have Harry Potter.

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Fans send Rowling wands and quills by the bushel, but she admits, a bit shamefacedly, that she never actually uses them and that the wands go straight to her oldest daughter, Jessica. The most popular living fantasy writer in the world doesn't even especially like fantasy novels. It wasn't until after Sorcerer's Stone was published that it even occurred to her that she had written one. "That's the honest truth," she says. "You know, the unicorns were in there. There was the castle, God knows. But I really had not thought that that's what I was doing. And I think maybe the reason that it didn't occur to me is that I'm not a huge fan of fantasy." Rowling has never finished The Lord of the Rings. She hasn't even read all of C.S. Lewis' Narnia novels, which her books get compared to a lot. There's something about Lewis' sentimentality about children that gets on her nerves. "There comes a point where Susan, who was the older girl, is lost to Narnia because she becomes interested in lipstick. She's become irreligious basically because she found sex," Rowling says. "I have a big problem with that."

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Midnight Voyager posted:

why does lipstick imply sex to this lady? The became irreligious because she "grew up" and saw it as a thing for children. I don't remember anything about loving in that book.

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Sire,' said Tirian, when he had greeted all these, 'if I have read the chronicles aright, there should be another. Has not your Majesty two sisters? Where is Queen Susan?'

'My sister Susan,' answered Peter shortly and gravely, 'is no longer a friend of Narnia.'

'Yes,' said Eustace, 'and whenever you've tried to get her to come and talk about Narnia or do anything about Narnia, she says, "What wonderful memories you have! Fancy your still thinking about all those funny games we used to play when we were children.'

'Oh, Susan!' said Jill. 'She's interested in nothing nowadays except nylons and lipstick and invitations. She always was a jolly sight too keen on being grown-up.'

'Grown-up indeed,' said the Lady Polly. 'I wish she would grow up. She wasted all her school time wanting to be the age she is now, and she'll waste all the rest of her life trying to stay that age. Her whole idea is to race on to the silliest time of one's life as quick as she can and then stop there as long as she can.'

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But the essential evil of public school life, as I see it, did not lie either in the sufferings of the [kids who had to do all the work] or in the privileged arrogance of the Bloods. These were symptoms of something more all-pervasive, something which, in the long run, did most harm to the boys who succeeded best at school and were happiest there. Spiritually speaking, the deadly thing was that school life was a life almost wholly dominated by the social struggle; to get on, to arrive, or, having reached the top, to remain there, was the absorbing preoccupation. It is often, of course, the preoccupation of adult life as well; but I have not yet seen any adult society in which the surrender to this impulse was so total. And from it, at school as in the world, all sorts of meanness flow; the sycophancy that courts those higher in the scale, the cultivation of those whom it is well to know, the speedy abandonment of friendships that will not help on the upward path, the readiness to join the cry against the unpopular, the secret motive in almost every action. The Wyvernians seem to me in retrospect to have been the least spontaneous, in that sense the least boyish, society I have ever known. It would perhaps not be too much to say that in some boys’ lives everything was calculated to the great end of advancement. For this games were played; for this clothes, friends, amusements, and vices were chosen.

And that is why I cannot give pederasty anything like a first place among the evils of the Coll. There is much hypocrisy on this theme. People commonly talk as if every other evil were more tolerable than this. But why? Because those of us who do not share the vice feel for it a certain nausea, as we do, say, for necrophily? I think that of very little relevance to moral judgement. Because it produces permanent perversion? But there is very little evidence that it does. The Bloods would have preferred girls to boys if they could have come by them; when, at a later age, girls were obtainable, they probably took them. Is it then on Christian grounds? But how many of those who fulminate on the matter are in fact Christians? And what Christian, in a society so worldly and cruel as that of Wyvern, would pick out the carnal sins for special reprobation? Cruelty is surely more evil than lust and the World at least as dangerous as the Flesh. The real reason for all the pother is, in my opinion, neither Christian nor ethical. We attack this vice not because it is the worst but because it is, by adult standards, the most disreputable and unmentionable, and happens also to be a crime in English law. The World will lead you only to Hell; but sodomy may lead you to jail and create a scandal, and lose you your job. The World, to do it justice, seldom does that.

Khizan posted:

"Nylons and lipstick" are rather sexualized indicators of exiting childhood, though. If I'm told that somebody can't get into Narnia because now they're only concerned about paying bills and getting promoted, I'm gonna assume it's because they've lost their imagination or sense of childlike wonder or whatnot. But if you tell me it's because now she cares about nylons and lipstick, I'm gonna assume it's "she's had sex and now she's a ruined woman" type bullshit.

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"Sir," said Tirian, when he had greeted all these. "If I have read the chronicles aright, there should be another. Has not your Majesty two sisters? Where is Queen Susan?"

"My sister Susan," answered Peter shortly and gravely, "is no longer a friend of Narnia."

"Yes," said Eustace, "and whenever you've tried to get her to come and talk about Narnia or do anything about Narnia, she says 'What wonderful memories you have! Fancy your still thinking about all those funny games we used to play when we were children.'"

"Oh Susan!" said Jill, "she's interested in nothing now-a-days except nylons and lipstick and invitations. She always was a jolly sight too keen on being grown-up."

Skwirl posted:

The movie is based on a book series, I haven't read it but I assume it's better than the film.

The Saddest Rhino posted:

https://twitter.com/BM7991/status/1360047494877634564?s=19

Vib Rib posted:

Good lord I completely forgot that Bioshock Infinite pulled the hardest "both sides!"ism turn I've ever seen in a video game.
They bent over backwards to prove that the people fighting racism were just as bad, somehow.

Vib Rib posted:

Good lord I completely forgot that Bioshock Infinite pulled the hardest "both sides!"ism turn I've ever seen in a video game.
They bent over backwards to prove that the people fighting racism were just as bad, somehow.

Pyrotoad posted:

IIRC they tried to walk it back with some DLC where they revealed that Daisy kidnapped and threatened to kill the bad guy's kid knowing it'd get her killed, because she got told by the time traveling twins that she needed to help Elizabeth become strong enough to stop the bad guy by becoming capable of killing, and she was actually sacrificing herself for the greater good.

I don't know why they thought that made it any better.

Khizan posted:

"Nylons and lipstick" are rather sexualized indicators of exiting childhood, though. If I'm told that somebody can't get into Narnia because now they're only concerned about paying bills and getting promoted, I'm gonna assume it's because they've lost their imagination or sense of childlike wonder or whatnot. But if you tell me it's because now she cares about nylons and lipstick, I'm gonna assume it's "she's had sex and now she's a ruined woman" type bullshit.

Arsenic Lupin posted:

This is an idiot literally on* social media. Read the replies!

https://twitter.com/SadietheJ/status/1359089308293083136

* meaning about

Data Graham posted:

Addictive social media apps such as Photoshop and Uber


e: f;b by the replies I assumed were stupid for a different reason

lobsterminator posted:

I love that the image uses a Commodore logo.

I do own a Commodore 64 but I didn't think it was as influential as Facebook these days.

Rockman Reserve posted:

where are you seeing a C64 logo in that image? are you getting it confused with noted not-social-media-app Uber's logo on the left?

Rockman Reserve posted:

where are you seeing a C64 logo in that image? are you getting it confused with noted not-social-media-app Uber's logo on the left?

e: VVVVVV oh jesus lol VVVV