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Oh gently caress yes, this is such an insane take that I’m kind of here for it https://twitter.com/marcus_mosher/status/1360290227600977921?s=21
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Kiper's evolution from lone draft guy to craziest hottake draft guy has been pretty fascinating. Anything to get those eyeballs.
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Mel Kiper was dimissed as a hot take artist for this. Heed his call.quote:On a conference call last month, Kiper Jr. offered this defense of Allen.
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Feb 12, 2021 19:55
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I think Justin Fields is starting to get underrated.
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Feb 12, 2021 20:23
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After Justin Herbert I've thrown my hands up on guessing on QBs. I don't know and most people don't seem to know so whatever go for the lottery ticket.
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I'm going to do my mock draft game again this year. Probably will open the thread mid March.
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Eifert Posting posted:I'm going to do my mock draft game again this year. Probably will open the thread mid March. I'm happy to take Houston 
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Eifert Posting posted:I'm going to do my mock draft game again this year. Probably will open the thread mid March. I’ve been the Jets the past couple years and would love to do them again
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I think you folks are mixing up Eifert's mock draft game (which was very fun and which I will happily suck at again this year) with the Goon Draft (which is also very fun and which I tentatively plan to start up sometime around April 1)
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SunshineDanceParty posted:After Justin Herbert I've thrown my hands up on guessing on QBs. I don't know and most people don't seem to know so whatever go for the lottery ticket. i told you all
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ShakeZula posted:I think you folks are mixing up Eifert's mock draft game (which was very fun and which I will happily suck at again this year) with the Goon Draft (which is also very fun and which I tentatively plan to start up sometime around April 1) I'm looking forward to defending my mock draft prediction championship and ruining a draft for some team as GM. I'm resigning as Texans GM though.
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Sad King Billy posted:I'm looking forward to defending my mock draft prediction championship and ruining a draft for some team as GM. drat, Easterby's purge continues
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ShakeZula posted:drat, Easterby's purge continues I've not been the best GM to be fair. Never drafted a QB.
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Feb 12, 2021 22:25
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Yeah mine is a more traditional 1st round mock. I just came up with a way to assign a point value.
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mcmagic posted:I think Justin Fields is starting to get underrated. There's never been a successful franchise QB out of Ohio State despite their zillion titles
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D-LINK posted:There's never been a successful franchise QB out of Ohio State despite their zillion titles This is true, the guy from BYU is obviously a safer bet. Or maybe the one from North Dakota State.
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Feb 13, 2021 00:52
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I mean both have had better QBs than Ohio state
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ShakeZula posted:This is true, the guy from BYU is obviously a safer bet. Or maybe the one from North Dakota State. Steve Young and Josh Allen are both better than anything that's thrown passes in the NFL from OSU
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Josh Allen played at Wyoming, didn't he? I'll concede BYU though, even if it has been about 30 years. OSU historically hasn't really been a team that prioritized passing, so most of the guys who have come through are either game manager types or tiny speedsters who can work the RPO. Fields is different though, he's mobile but he's an NFL-style passer who I think can have success in the league. The knock on him in my mind is relatively small sample size. Thinking about I actually wonder if there's any college program that could make a claim at being "QBU," the way that some schools just churn out great RBs or WRs or DBs. Most of the NFL greats seem to come from all kinds of random places, and most of the college powerhouses seem to have a spotty-at-best record of producing great NFL QBs.
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ShakeZula posted:Josh Allen played at Wyoming, didn't he? I'll concede BYU though, even if it has been about 30 years. NC State
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BYU's blocking both on the line and from their WRs was pretty great. Lots of people buying into the offensive scheme. That Rex dude they got at TE looks like he might be a stud too. Zach Wilson's got a perfectly fine arm and appears to have that knack for running the ball that will make him a threat for designed runs. His deep ball is kinda weak though. Other than that I don't know how people can put on tape, watch him throw dimes everywhere in the intermediate and short game even with off balance throws and think that it's not applicable to today's NFL. I think people hate him because he's a one year wonder and has a weird baby face but he's kind of the ideal QB for what a lot of teams are trying to mimic right now.
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D-LINK posted:There's never been a successful franchise QB out of Ohio State despite their zillion titles I don't think this actually matters at all but it is crazy, it's not just that they've never had a franchise quarterback. I am fairly sure they never produced a quarterback that started a whole season except for Tom Tupa, who did so because he was a punter. Mike Tomczak would be the closest but he had one 15 game season and the rest of his career was either getting yanked or going in for someone who got yanked, etc.
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terrelle pryor was a neat gadget player for a couple years and you can't take that away from osu, unlike all of their wins with terrelle pryor
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Grittybeard posted:I don't think this actually matters at all but it is crazy, it's not just that they've never had a franchise quarterback. I am fairly sure they never produced a quarterback that started a whole season except for Tom Tupa, who did so because he was a punter. Troy Smith probably would've started a full season for the Ravens if he hadn't gotten tonsillitis that forced rookie Joe Flacco into action early.
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Fields is way different than all other OSU QBs before him. He was tasked with a ton of difficult timing routes because everyone was sitting in a zone against him. Teague was nothing and Sermon wasn't used properly until the playoffs so he had to sit there waiting for his WRs to stretch the field. He gets knocks for holding the ball for too long because of this. There's also this weird idea that pro style is like infallible and never loses. Indiana got up in his face with pressure all game and had good coverage and he didn't have his starting WRs for Northwestern. poo poo happens. Other than that the guys put up nothing but stellar tape. The guys got a cannon, can run the RPO, and makes smart decisions with dimes all over the field. The worst thing I can say about him is he lofts balls a bit too much when he could just level his passes out. He does it but not all the time for some reason and I don't know why. His form is as perfect as Lawrences' so I guess it's just a weird habit of his to rainbow when he shouldn't? I dunno.
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Tom Tupa also heroically quarterbacked the Jets to a near victory over the hated Patriots after Vinny Testeverde popped his Achilles game 1 1999. We only lost because loving Parcells pulled Tupa for Rick Mirer.
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Alright staring down Rousseau and Phillips is killing me for more opinions. Finding myself heavily favoring Phillips.
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Man, I can't wait to dominate the goon draft again. Ceedee and Herbert was a knockout first round.
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alright nerds listen up here's a rundown of the top 5 qbs in this draft as gone by their typical draft slot in these dumb rear end mocks Trey Lance: Like a $2 1 grand per week for life scratcher at the gas station. good chance you get jack poo poo, poor chance you get life changing ability. but there's a chance dammit. and i'm willing to gamble on the bison. let him sit for a year since he has very little experience and then lt him run loving wild. he's #2 on my personal list Mac Jones: body of a loving champion and i don't ever want to doubt him. too bad he loving sucks lmfao. he'll probably be a very good backup qb but i definitely aint spending a first on him. gently caress bammer Justin Fields: Black Jake Locker Zach Wilson: pretty boy pirma donna zoob loser. if a new york team drafts him it's going to be an incredible meltdown. now when that coastal carolina qb is eligible? then we'll talk Trevor Lawrence: Yeah he's going to be loving great for his second team after he's slightly too good to be ruined by the Jags and bolts for more money and a much better franchise almost anywhere else once his rookie deal is up. Assuming Urban doesn't try to run him 15 times a game and scrambles his brains his rookie year there you go, there's your 'round 1' qbs enjoy. hope my idiot loving team doesn't pick any of these idiots past lawrence except for lance if he falls
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Roasted Donut posted:alright nerds listen up here's a rundown of the top 5 qbs in this draft as gone by their typical draft slot in these dumb rear end mocks yeah but did you watch a bunch of tape on youtube? do yo uwant to desperately be the tff mel kiper?
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Roasted Donut posted:alright nerds listen up here's a rundown of the top 5 qbs in this draft as gone by their typical draft slot in these dumb rear end mocks I think it's awful generous to assume Treveor Lawerence is is too good to be ruined
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[doltos aping a generic around the horn guy voice] Justin Fields. Do it all Black Jake Locker type that sticks anyone he meets, rush through his progressions, and overthrows. One year wonder that makes you wonder who the gently caress would pick this jackass. You can probably get a ton of gushing reports about him but basically they'll all say the same thing: he sucks.
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This is some serious projection
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Doltos posted:This is some serious projection I forgot where I made my post ranking my QB prospects. Can you link me?
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Borsche69 posted:[doltos aping a generic around the horn guy voice] Justin Fields. Do it all Black Jake Locker type that sticks anyone he meets, rush through his progressions, and overthrows. One year wonder that makes you wonder who the gently caress would pick this jackass. You can probably get a ton of gushing reports about him but basically they'll all say the same thing: he sucks.
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As usual Raiders fans are loving based
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here are my draft rankings for 2021: 1. Whoever the bengals pick 2. Every other player except 3. the players Daltos thinks are good and that’s all she wrote. please like and subscribe
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Borsche69 posted:I forgot where I made my post ranking my QB prospects. Can you link me? I meant the attention seeking part
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Doltos posted:I meant the attention seeking part Did I say you were seeking attention or is that such an ingrained character trait that you inherently think anyone busting your balls must be accusing you of it? lol
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I dunno man why else would you do this every year
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