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Did DE deliberately nerf Blood Rush/WW/Gladiator set, or is it bugged somehow? The buffs seem to be falling off after a set amount of time, unless you're consistently connecting with the melee weapon IN MELEE RANGE. I first noticed this with Baruuk, because you tend to notice going from murdering entire rooms with red crit punches to only murdering them with orange crit punches. It also affects glaives, specifically I was trying out glaives using Blood Rush and Volatile Rebound to just sorta wing that fucker in there and red crit poo poo. However, despite the fact that I was gaining combo for the glaive hitting nerds as it bounced around, I wasn't gaining stacks from BR and, if I kept flinging it across the room, the stacks would eventually fall off despite the melee counter still going up/being maxed out. Turns out that, right now, BR/WW/Glad buffs seem to only want to stick around if you're actively smacking poo poo with your equipped melee weapon IN MELEE RANGE. Otherwise it just drops off regardless of your combo count. It also doesn't seem to care if the mods are on your actual melee weapon or Deconstructor Prime. The buff still appears as normal, but if you're not regularly making contact inside seemingly close radius of your frame... it just falls off and stays off. The only way to get it to come back is to either gain another combo multiplier (which only gives you ONE stack of the buff for each combo multiplier gained thereafter, regardless of your actual combo count), or to deliberately ditch your combo in some way in order to reset it. I can't imagine that they did this deliberately since it's ridiculously obtuse... but also this is DE we're talking about here...
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Antigravitas posted:Nobody should trust Orokin, so no, of course not. Blast it from orbit imho. I agree, but only after I trick Dad into giving me some more Warhammer 40k Dreadnoughts for me to paint bright pink.
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Super Foul Egg posted:The reason Warframe in particular suffers from well meaning veteran blindness is because the progression is horizontal as gently caress, rather than a linear rise like most games. Whenever we (for I too have passed through the veil) think of Getting A Thing it always seems like a straightforward list to convey in retrospect but the game is an impossibly large spaghetti of interwoven Just Do Thisses that can take months to years of solid play to pick your way through. That's not me pretending there's no "and now just mash your head into this mission for 20-40 attempts and hope for good rng, also make sure to take breaks to preserve your sanity". Often knowing the direct route doesn't mean instant gratification or immediate rewards (unless you're asking for a 100% dojo drop), but it's better than being overwhelmed and lost in not even knowing where to start. And of course stuff like "Just get lucky, duh" has always been an extremely unhelpful protip, even the best way to go about things can run you deep into the far right end of the bell curve. RoadCrewWorker fucked around with this message at 10:03 on Feb 12, 2021 |
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Prop Wash posted:I think there’s some stuff to unpack with the concept of veteran blindness - as you finally sit atop your Fashionframe Throne you kind of realize that the months to years of unraveling the nightmare spaghetti was the actual game and killing Grineer was always kind of the travel between points. From that perspective it’s not so much refusing to acknowledge the impossible spaghetti as it is suggesting that it might be better to approach the spaghetti from a different angle. When I said “go get a better amp” I realize that means “finish Cetus, do that quill poo poo, do a few dolons, grab some Cetus gems and wisps for amp assembly and all the intermediate steps I forgot to mention” and it’ll probably take weeks. But loosening that part of the spaghetti frees up a lot of other tangles. Games > Warframe: Fortuna Grakata: Killing grineer is the backdrop for fun?! Really, though, I love those points and I'd agree. I need to percolate some, I think. When I give things out to new players, my philosophy is that there should be a focus on enjoying what you find fun; there's always more to branch out into, but at the same time if you're enjoying the game there's a few things that just make it more bearable. Like, if I find a friend that's really digging in, they'll probably get some 30 day boosters, or sometimes the archwing or pet segments for the orbiter. That veteran insight is good for brushing over the rough parts and giving players a leg up over the grind. There's a reason I tend to mention the market in general as a frustration fix. It is a little annoying, but its also the equalizer for effort. If there's anything you're frustrated with farming, odds are you can get it from another player on the cheap, or in exchange for effortbucks that you were spending time on doing. I had an interesting conversation the other week about how most casual players are actually sitting on a ton of plat value in their inventory they don't realize is there. Its really astounding how much non-obvious stuff is tradable, not just primes and ayatans. Kuva word runes and requiem relics, parts for necramechs, almost any recently added weapon, all the open world gems. Which is wierd because I sort of don't like how 'just trade for it' becomes an all to common mantra, while also being nice to have the option to use the ingame de mart or the player mart. I don't think there's a good solution there aside from making certain RNG more forgiving. Like, I know its a good thing, but at the same time aware that solution gets broken record-ey if that makes sense?  Antigravitas posted:I may have played a few hours (nearly MR29 I'd actually really like to see an Air Support charge that just spawns an orokin pillar. That would make them useful without being too op and be a neat thing out of Daddio's bag of orokin toys.
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SIGSEGV posted:The wings look great, praise Ticker. On PC you can make a Melee Heavy Attack button that won't trigger alt fire, but you can still only heavy attack once your melee is out. I don't know if you can make alt fire ever not be melee heavy while you have your melee weapon out.
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Antigravitas posted:I may have played a few hours (nearly MR29 I actually really love this design because I think the thing I hate the most about this game is loving fishing and mining, and this is so much better than either of those things because it's just so much faster and more lucrative.
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More streaming news: https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1...02-devstream152quote:Our second Devstream of the year will air on February 26th @ 2 p.m ET at twitch.tv/warframe! Don’t miss it - you can earn yourself an Umbra Forma Blueprint for watching!
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Gonkish posted:Did DE deliberately nerf Blood Rush/WW/Gladiator set, or is it bugged somehow? Are you sure you're not just having trouble generating combo to begin with? A thing to note about the Volatile mods is that the explosions do not generate combo, only direct hits. Since your explosions will be killing a not-insignificant number of the enemies you face, shifting to less combo-focused build when using them would be a smart move (or use Xoris and normal combos instead of throws to get your multiplier up quickly). As for Baruuk, it's actually a similar situation: the waves don't (and have never) generated combo, only direct hits with actual fists, so torturing the Gladiator set to work with it is highly ill-advised.
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Speaking of set mods, who actually designs them? Because most of them make me seriously wonder if their designer has even a vague idea of what the game is, let alone appropriate numbers for them.
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they're revamping the twitch drop system to twitch's newer system to try to get it to not break for people as much https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1249107-warframe-twitch-drops-20-coming-february-16th/ on first read it's 'oh no do i have to be actively watching and click a button' but no, if you get to be eligible for it by leaving the stream open, you can just click the button in your twitch inventory next time you're at your computer
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flatluigi posted:they're revamping the twitch drop system to twitch's newer system to try to get it to not break for people as much Quoting this a bit more because you must unlink and relink your twitch setup in order to get any drops in the future, including the upcoming Umbra Forma BP drop aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 
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Tylana posted:On PC you can make a Melee Heavy Attack button that won't trigger alt fire, but you can still only heavy attack once your melee is out. I don't know if you can make alt fire ever not be melee heavy while you have your melee weapon out. This really sucks, I wish I could like heavy attack melees because the Sancti Wositcalled BigAssMace seems pretty fun when I actually bother to use it on terminator Nyx and Hildryn, because they have actual synergies with it (spin guard attack for movement and team heal on heavy attack for truck escorts, but they are just a pain in the rear end the rest of the time.
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flatluigi posted:they're revamping the twitch drop system to twitch's newer system to try to get it to not break for people as much Knowing Twitch and DE, it's going to be every bit as broken, but it'll make Warframe's daily advertisement stream get more "engagement." Anyone else wish they'd just make the Twitch drops into Alert missions? Because a lot of us actually have jobs and we can't tune in to watch people pretend to enjoy playing their own game while audibly straining to ignore the glaring flaws that flare up. I remember catching one stream where they were playing Railjack and the boredom was palpable.
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I just tune in, mute and minimize it then eventually close it well after it's done. Fine use of bandwidth all around.
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no, Screaming Idiot, i don't want the zero-effort free item to turn into a must-play-the-game item
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flatluigi posted:no, Screaming Idiot, i don't want the zero-effort free item to turn into a must-play-the-game item drat, you're right, why would you actually want to play the game when you could just watch a commercial for it instead, that's crazy
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like the other person said you don't have to watch it, just leave the window open. you still don't even have to watch it with the new version. i've gotten drops by opening a window with twitch on low quality and muted and leaving it open all day behind the windows i'm actually using on my computer. yes, i'm fine with that continuing.
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Yeah, but some of us have jobs and don't have the luxury of being able to hop on Twitch, and would instead prefer to play the game to earn items in the game I know, it's crazy, but I swear it's true.
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congratulations on having a job where you can't have a browser window open but you can play warframe instead edit: seriously though just open it on your phone or something. i think twitch even lets you watch on audio-only for the least data possible. it's nearly zero effort dude flatluigi fucked around with this message at 09:23 on Feb 13, 2021 |
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I can play it after work, during my free time, while Twitch drops aren't available if you miss the stream. Again, I know these are high-level concepts, but I play a doctor on TV so you can trust me. EDIT: Again, I work during the streams, and my job involves working with sensitive medical data so I don't always have access to a phone when I have to go in office. And also, why can't they just let you earn the items in-game instead? I mean, you and I both know, it's because DE and Twitch want more audience engagement for the purposes of advertising revenue, but if anything that makes it even scummier. Screaming Idiot fucked around with this message at 09:31 on Feb 13, 2021 |
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In this era of smartphones just put the app on your phone, login with your twitch-linked account, and go about your daily whatever. I spent the last tennocon fuckin surfing and still bagged Athodai+Hydroid Prime.
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Screaming Idiot posted:I can play it after work, during my free time, while Twitch drops aren't available if you miss the stream. Again, I know these are high-level concepts, but I play a doctor on TV so you can trust me. dude, like I keep saying, just leave the window open while you're at work. you don't have to do anything, you can even leave it open 24/7 and just check in between streams to put it back on the warframe twitch if they raided another channel when they were done like I know you literally never want to change your mind on anything but do it for this for once, i'm begging you
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Christ, do you guys own Amazon stock or something? I just want an option for us to get the items via in-game alerts, so if someone misses the stream they can still get their Prisma Grineer Codpiece or Stug Prime Receiver.
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Sadly that has never been the case, you at least had to afk the stream for 30 mins like 99% of the playerbase. Now you have to relink your poo poo and then click a button after afking said stream. You're still getting the free poo poo, except now you have to click a button. Alerts got axed when they introduced nightwave, that poo poo isn't ever coming back.
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Hello! I'm jumping on this train since Path of Exile has ever increasing performance issues on my system that make it not worth my time to try and play. What I like about the game so far: Having feet on the ground seems to be mostly optional and a general waste of time, when I can instead repeatedly slide, somersault and cannon drill myself into pits and lakes. I also like that the game is pushing back a bit difficulty wise, some of the missions aren't free-to-play MMO style wins and I have to concentrate a bit. I've sent a guild application, I'll probably show up in chat every now and then. I'm not really looking for a ton of advice or handouts, since for me the fun in these kinds of games is to figure stuff out for myself while listening to podcasts. However I do have a couple of questions about how to spend my time efficiently, so I get access to more parts of the game. 1. I'm currently concentrating on just blasting through the quest lines, since that seems to unlock more game. I'm currently looking for materials for somekind of a jetpack I think, and also a dog egg. There's also a quest mission which involves protecting a flying drone of some kind, but I think I need to level up my mods to be able to do that. I just get murked when I try to stay even remotely close to it. I also noticed it's possible to install a resource extractor on fully unlocked planets, so that's kind of a secondary goal I have. Am I doing it right? I kinda like the infinite A-B-C-D capture point missions, but they seem to mostly pay out in mystery orbs that I then have to unlock in another game mode. Is this worth my while at this point? 2. Endo seems to be the bottleneck for getting stronger at the moment. I get like maybe 20-30 per mission (unneeded mods included), and I need thousands to max out the mods I have. Is there anything I can do to facilitate this, or is this just a go grind more, idiot, kinda situation? 3. How much should I bother with grabbing various chests and resource points in missions? Should I just take what's on the critical path or spend time cleaning up all I can find? StoryTime fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Feb 13, 2021 |
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1. You're generally on the right path. You'll want to do every mission on every planet at some point and the game will generally point you in that direction bit by bit. Mods and new frames will help with the getting owned issue. The orbs from endless modes will eventually be very much worth your time and as a new player you can ignore them for a pretty long time or start on them now, depending on how self-sufficient you want to be. If you want to get everything yourself, ignore them for now and look into them (Relics) when you start wanting Prime equipment. Planting the extractors on planets you need resources from - using the extractors from the star map will show what gives what - is a good long term thing to just be perpetually doing when you can. You'll almost never get the rare resources from them so don't target those intentionally. 2. Endo farming when starting out I believe is still best done through Excavation type missions, which will be rough to solo at your stage of gameplay so are best random matchmade if you don't want goons to drag you along. 3. It adds up and over the course of playing it you'll need millions if not billions of the common resources and hundreds of the rarer ones. Don't need to interrupt your mission to do it but if you're waiting for a door or an objective and there are chests in an adjacent room it costs you nothing but a few seconds. Orv fucked around with this message at 10:03 on Feb 13, 2021 |
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StoryTime posted:There's also a quest mission which involves protecting a flying drone of some kind, but I think I need to level up my mods to be able to do that. I just get murked when I try to stay even remotely close to it Still worth doing early on for the cool hoverboard you get, very useful to have for plains mobility as well! (until you get the jetpack you mentioned)
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Orv posted:1. You're generally on the right path. You'll want to do every mission on every planet at some point and the game will generally point you in that direction bit by bit. Mods and new frames will help with the getting owned issue. The orbs from endless modes will eventually be very much worth your time and as a new player you can ignore them for a pretty long time or start on them now, depending on how self-sufficient you want to be. If you want to get everything yourself, ignore them for now and look into them (Relics) when you start wanting Prime equipment. Planting the extractors on planets you need resources from - using the extractors from the star map will show what gives what - is a good long term thing to just be perpetually doing when you can. You'll almost never get the rare resources from them so don't target those intentionally. Thanks! Oh, one more: One of the mods seems to be about the different melee combos I have. Forest something I think? I leveled it up 3 times to max it out but didn't notice any difference. There's a red number on it on the top right of it that went up. Is that bad? What the heck is that thing and how does it work? I do use a lot of melee, and the different melee combos is one of the more satisfying things about the gameplay.
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StoryTime posted:I leveled it up 3 times to max it out but didn't notice any difference. There's a red number on it on the top right of it that went up. Is that bad? What the heck is that thing and how does it work? Most stance mods actually took me a while to find, but they're common later on so i'd ask veterans for spares if you like a weapon RoadCrewWorker fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Feb 13, 2021 |
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RoadCrewWorker posted:The top center mods are stances (for melee) or auras (for frames) and they _add_ available capacity instead of costing them - so you ranking them up basically let you put more or more upgrade mods on the rest of the weapon/frame. Having a red number means theres a missmatch beween the mod symbol and slot symbol and it makes the capacity worse. A match would show in green and increase the gain (or lower the cost for regular mods). There's ways to change the slot symbol (called forma) but for stances they're kind of hard to acquire. Okay, so I should drop the Forest whatever stance mod for another stance mod, that has a symbol that matches the symbols on the other mod slots. Got it. Edit: oh wait, it changes the entire move set? I'll have to experiment with these!
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If you have the phone app -- which is really useful! -- it can help with getting resources early game by letting you send and receive drones and help you keep track if your builds. Endo will be a problem to gather for quite some time, but you can get a respectable amount by melting down copies of mods you aren't using. Focus on saving your credits and endo on mods that increase damage and multishot for you primary and secondary weapons. There are also goonclans on all platforms that can assist you with giving you maxxed-out copies of some of those mods as well. Those "orbs" are lootboxes that contain weapon and warframe parts -- Prime parts, to be specific. Prime weapons, warframes, and later mods usually represent the best version of a thing, and these are what you should go for later on. Every orb, or Void Relic as they're called in-game, has a title like Lith, Meso, Neo, and Axi, and you can open those relics in mission modes called "Void Fissures," which are slightly harder versions of regular missions where you fight special variants of regular enemies called "Corrupted," such as Corrupted Ancient, Corrupted Butcher, and so on. You can tell they are Corrupted because they're gold and shiny, and regular enemies can also become Corrupted after getting hit with Void Fissures. Killing these enemies gets you Reactant, and when you get ten you unlock the Void Relic you chose for that mission, and you get a random part or blueprint from that relic's list. Every relic has a list of items it can contain, and doing Void Fissures gets you a resource called Void Traces which you can feed to relics to increase the odds of getting the rarer parts or blueprints inside. This is a lot to take in, but don't worry too much about doing a good job or focusing on what relics to open. Just do some Void Fissures to get stuff to stockpile, and later you can build the items or trade them to people for platinum, the game's premium currency. The endless variants -- Defence, Interception, Survival, Disruption, Excavation -- are also good ways to level your warframes and weapons, just make sure to stay with the group so you don't miss the Reactant!
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StoryTime posted:Okay, so I should drop the Forest whatever stance mod for another stance mod, that has a symbol that matches the symbols on the other mod slots. Got it. Depending on how i use the weapon, going with a moveset i like over a "match" capacity improvement can be more comfortable, but it's personal preference.
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Baro Ki'Teer is selling Primed Continuity and a heap of cosmetics. If you find yourself lacking, go have a look-see.
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Screaming Idiot posted:Also you will eventually be able to build a Dreadnought from Warhammer 40k. I will strive to do this. 
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StoryTime posted:Hello! I'm jumping on this train since Path of Exile has ever increasing performance issues on my system that make it not worth my time to try and play. welcome aboard! If you're ever stuck, the wiki is an incredible resource. I'd also recommend tenno.zone's relic tracker when you get around to trying to crack primes open. Dog Eggs are from earth missions, you can get them from smacking the kubrow nests. (They used to be alert stuff too). however, you can buy them for like 10p from the ingame market - this is a way better deal than kavatcodes. You may also get some with the incubator/pet starter kits, if goons feel like gifting you some. Extractors are a neat way to get some bonus materials, or defray some annoying costs. You have to fully unlock a planet, titan extractors have a 4 hour cycle time and tend to hit the common resources the most; distillings have a 2/3 chance to get uncommons (like plastids) and a not infintesimal chance to pull rare resources like orokin cells but are on an 8 hour timer. You do have to clear a planet to use them, recommend swapping 2 in and out for reasons relating to 'they have a chacne to be blown up if you forget about them'. Its no biggie, just rotate and swap them out. I'm glad you like interception! most people hate it; but it keeps you on your toes. If mission rewards seem lackluster, its probably because of the rotation cycle: Most missions in warframe that are endless/repeatable follow the A A B C reward pool rotations, so if you do two rounds you don't get a shot at the best tier drops. This holds true for survival, defense, etc. (also, the higher difficulty stuff tends to have better things as well, the drop table are wonky but publicly available. If you ever want to know where something drops, you can google warframe drop tables and ctrl-f the official site) Endo is definitely a bottleneck. Do the maroo weekly mission! All the ayatan statues are redeemable for endo (don't forget to fill them with the smaller stars first). Good news is they're tradable: ask a goon to give you some starter statues to rank your stuff up. as a rule of thumb, only 10 rank mods are endo expensive to level, and gold are more than silver are more than copper. So serration to 10 costs about 20k endo while vitality to 10 costs about 10k. For comparison, the best sculpture holds around 3k. Every now and again you want to clean out your inventory and sell excess mods for endo. It'll pile up as you play, check back in a month. Chests aren't super worthwhile. They drop credits and orbs, tho, so you can pop them if you need energy. Mostly, you care when the nightwave objective's up. This is a play to taste thing. if you have fun popping lockers and chests, go for it, but if you are only aring about resource gain, probably better to spend time elsewhere. Relatedly there's a few hidden/secret lockers that sometimes spawn, but they're rare and they make a noise, so if you play with headphones its easy to find them walking through the level. They can give a 30 minute booster or a forma so its a nice bonus now and again. if you enjoy that exploration, though, I'd recommend picking out a Syndicate. their medallion hunts are sort of a replacement for chest hunting; though it can be a pain or a chore without the right setup or friends that know the spots(at first). regarding stances, there's some that are just better or drop in wierd places and you won't run across them normally for a while. IIRC, blade/whips, shields and gunblade stances you probably won't find for a while until you ask.
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StoryTime posted:I will strive to do this. You can also unlock an honest-to-god gold-plated servoskull skin for your Sentinel.
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Screaming Idiot posted:Yeah, but some of us have jobs and don't have the luxury of being able to hop on Twitch, and would instead prefer to play the game to earn items in the game Hard agree. gently caress Twitch drops. I don't want to do Warframe poo poo when I'm not playing Warframe.
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