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BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
So what is so significant about this congresswoman being called as a witness? Why her?

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Ringo Star Get
Sep 18, 2006

JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT
Trump probably going to be mad he’s going to have not pay this lawyer for a few more days instead of what was expected.

Here’s the fun part, let’s say they do call Trump as a witness and he’s subpoenaed - could this be the time that Trump does book it out of the country?

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



BigBallChunkyTime posted:

So what is so significant about this congresswoman being called as a witness? Why her?

she's the one behind this story https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/12/politics/trump-mccarthy-shouting-match-details/index.html

and she's signaled she'd testify

Social Studies 3rd Period
Oct 31, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER



BigBallChunkyTime posted:

So what is so significant about this congresswoman being called as a witness? Why her?

https://twitter.com/HerreraBeutler/status/1360419828721401856

This. To get more information about the call/notes on this, and to potentially lead to more witnesses.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

TulliusCicero posted:

This sounds like Mitch wants Trump to burn without hurting the GOP if he wants criminal prosecution

Yeah gently caress that

He also assumed the acquittal would be today. So gently caress him, let's air some dirty laundry.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

BigBallChunkyTime posted:

So what is so significant about this congresswoman being called as a witness? Why her?

All they need is one to open the process to as many as they want. They don't have to specify all of them up front.

She apparently was a witness to McCarthy's phone call with Trump which seems to be a significant issue with Rs at the moment.

Velocity Raptor
Jul 27, 2007

I MADE A PROMISE
I'LL DO ANYTHING
The prosecution prosecution promised that they weren't going to call witnesses, but now they've gone back on their word. :qq:"

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Live footage of former POTUS Donald J. Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPriJzclQK8

Social Studies 3rd Period
Oct 31, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER



Velocity Raptor posted:

The prosecution prosecution promised that they weren't going to call witnesses, but now they've gone back on their word. :qq:"

https://twitter.com/craignewman/status/1360625906931408902

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017




He realizes witnesses have to be approved right? good lord what a loving jack off idiot at all times

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

He's melting down because someone finally cracked his cypher

Mellow Seas
Oct 9, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Republicans really could've been a little more canny about this rather than making it incredibly obvious how little they want witnesses, when they don't have any power to stop them. :lol:

Rabble
Dec 3, 2005

Pillbug

lol we're going to find out that Ted Cruz was one of the co-conspirators of the insurrection.

EDIT: I mean direct proof lol

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
If they call Ted Cruz I hope they refer to him by his real name LOL

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1360625188006752257

https://twitter.com/kasie/status/1360627558023331844

https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1360625152245997568

Velocity Raptor
Jul 27, 2007

I MADE A PROMISE
I'LL DO ANYTHING

Rabble posted:

lol we're going to find out that Ted Cruz was one of the co-conspirators of the insurrection.

EDIT: I mean direct proof lol

What actually happens if witnesses implicate other congressmen/women in the insurrection? They get their own trial?

Jiro
Jan 13, 2004

It was driving me nuts yesterday during the fight montage why it sounded so stupidly familiar.

https://youtu.be/c9mHd49AeEs

Thank you Black Dynamite, you're so righteous.

Social Studies 3rd Period
Oct 31, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER



https://twitter.com/bresreports/status/1360628329070669826

Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1360625625741017090

https://twitter.com/JesseLehrich/status/1360629105843175429

Rabble
Dec 3, 2005

Pillbug

100% this. All of the Republican threats are so empty. They're terrified of the facts coming out so they're throwing every threat they can against the wall.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



bringing in a phonebook and demanding every single name be called as a witness as Senators laugh at me

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.
Holy poo poo Trump's lawyers are in the Senate doing prop comedy.

Mellow Seas
Oct 9, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Republicans are going to start pretending this never happened the second it's over with. Don't let 'em. Keep deposing anyone who's ever even exchanged small talk with an insurrectionist and push the vote for conviction/acquittal to November 7, 2022. Work on the exactly-three bills you'll be allowed to pass in this congress (assuming the filibuster isn't removed) in the trial recesses, make them big and popular, and make the entire rest of the next two years a GOP freak show. Fuuuuuck iiiiiiit.

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

eke out posted:

a meaningless answer, you can do whatever you want

he won't be subpoenaed because the 5th amendment clearly shields him from being compelled to testify

No, it doesn’t. He still has to testify, he just doesn’t have to answer.

“”Mr president, did you try and kill Vice President pence?”
“I refuse to answer on the grounds it may incriminate me”

Is not a good look.

Social Studies 3rd Period
Oct 31, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER



SubG posted:

Holy poo poo Trump's lawyers are in the Senate doing prop comedy.

It's apparently Jason Miller, lmao

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

1. Aaron A. Aaronson
2. Hunter Biden
3. Hunter Biden.
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.
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300. Ronald McDonald
301. Hunter Biden

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

Xaerael posted:

So wait, am I being mad here...

If the Republicans would have held this while Trump was still in power like they could have... Wouldn't they have had the majority in the senate to win the vote they just lost?

Asking because I like schadenfreude and seeing things backfire on bad people.

Yes! Lovely isn’t it :)

shoeberto
Jun 13, 2020

which way to the MACHINES?

*zooms, enhances*
- Queen Elizabeth (reptilian)
- JFK Jr
- Ben Ghazi
- Via Getty

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

What’s going on here? What does Beutler know?

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
- Hillary Clinton

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Murgos posted:

What’s going on here? What does Beutler know?

She heard the McCarthy call.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Murgos posted:

What’s going on here? What does Beutler know?

She was a Republican House member who overheard the call between Kevin McCarthy and Donald Trump

Xaerael
Aug 25, 2010

Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.

shoeberto posted:

*zooms, enhances*
- Queen Elizabeth (reptilian)
- JFK Jr
- Ben Ghazi
- Via Getty

-Aunt Tifa

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

Murgos posted:

What’s going on here? What does Beutler know?

The Beutler did it.

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

eke out posted:

all of the whining is definitely proof it was the right choice lol


it's not actually useful because it shuts down the senate for months and trump refusing to testify does not change a single republican's vote

It doesn’t shut down the senate and it’s useful regardless of if trump is convicted or not.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



Murgos posted:

No, it doesn’t. He still has to testify, he just doesn’t have to answer.

“”Mr president, did you try and kill Vice President pence?”
“I refuse to answer on the grounds it may incriminate me”

Is not a good look.

how many months do you think it takes to either get (1) a doj contempt referral or (2) the injunction against the sergeant-at-arms from enforcing inherent contempt for the first time in 100 years, to get to the supreme court, then how long until they rule, then how likely do you think they rule in favor of the democrats, then at the end of that process, imagining you actually won, how many american voters do you think had their opinions changed about whether donald trump is bad

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

eke out posted:

how many months do you think it takes to either get (1) a doj contempt referral or (2) the injunction against the sergeant-at-arms from enforcing inherent contempt for the first time in 100 years, to get to the supreme court, then how long until they rule, then how likely do you think they rule in favor of the democrats, then at the end of that process, imagining you actually won, how many american voters do you think had their opinions changed about whether donald trump is bad

I mean if the end game is to stop Trump running in 2024 then they have 4 years to do it right?

Rabble
Dec 3, 2005

Pillbug

Remember the table full of empty folders during that one press conference, and the blank "health care plan" they gave to 60 Minutes??

This is an empty threat. It's always an empty threat.

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

Velocity Raptor posted:

What actually happens if witnesses implicate other congressmen/women in the insurrection? They get their own trial?

I think the house would have to impeach them first.

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eke out
Feb 24, 2013



CyberPingu posted:

I mean if the end game is to stop Trump running in 2024 then they have 4 years to do it right?

that's not the end game because we will literally never get 17 republicans to convict him. the end game is to conclude this impeachment in a way that makes him maximally toxic to other republicans and gets us whatever the biggest political win we can

right now, that looks like seizing on the "he incited a mob to kill his vice president, knowingly!" theory using witnesses we can actually get, not creating some months-long legal process all in the hopes that... you can force donald trump to take the 5th a lot

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