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Yeah I do enjoy when the leading AI, ahead of me in tech, trades me for like 10 horses when we’re rollin around with tanks and battleships. I always torch a few border villages during stupid AI surprise wars because if you hold one, it’ll always trigger an emergency later on. I then can move a settler to that region and pick an ideal spot to settle versus their normally crappy settling spot or district selection. I’ll prolong wars just to pillage though. Especially later on in the game when the enemy Civ is heavily developed and I have subs. Great way to make some money/science.
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CompeAnansi posted:I really feel like they need to reduce the penalties for killing someone who declares a surprise war on you. They were literally asking for it. It is so bad that after wiping out someone who tried to bully me, in the next few years I often get 1-2 more wars declared on me by other AI that were pissed that I defended myself. That shouldn't happen. It's like Dany at the end of GoT "Why is everyone picking on me, they attacked me first, it's only fair I took their capital"
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Feb 7, 2021 16:48
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Marmaduke! posted:It's like Dany at the end of GoT "Why is everyone picking on me, they attacked me first, it's only fair I took their capital" Yeah, exactly!
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Feb 7, 2021 17:34
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PIllaging is also really powerful and under utilized by inexperienced players. The yields you can get from loving up juicy targets like Campus' and Commercial hubs and luxury improvements can help propel you ahead of the AI by giving you resources while denying them theirs, and forcing them to spend production on repairs.
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Feb 7, 2021 17:42
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Leveled up light cavalry loving up their growth and making you bank is 50% the purpose of wars
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Feb 7, 2021 17:45
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I recommend playing a game as Norway and building way fewer campuses/theater squares than you usually do. It is super easy to keep up so long as you've got land to pillage and it will make you appreciate just how much loot is just sitting around on the map for future playthroughs. Plus it's a way to cripple the AI that's been pissing you off with no grievances, emergencies, or lovely border cities.
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Feb 7, 2021 17:50
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Another thing I continuously see from friends who are newer or encounter seeing in conversations where players are trying to figure out whats going on is that people just dont proactively cultivate relationships with the AI through trade and gifts and such. When you build good recurring friendships and eventually alliances these relationships will weather the grievances generated from you loving up another AI pretty well.
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Feb 7, 2021 17:50
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Rimusutera posted:Another thing I continuously see from friends who are newer or encounter seeing in conversations where players are trying to figure out whats going on is that people just dont proactively cultivate relationships with the AI through trade and gifts and such. When you build good recurring friendships and eventually alliances these relationships will weather the grievances generated from you loving up another AI pretty well. Continuing from this train of thought, one tip to keep in mind is that when you meet a new civ, the built-in instant diplomatic penalties that come from agendas and the like don't actually kick in until the next turn after you meet them. So when you meet a civ you can almost always instantly get the diplomatic bonus from sending a delegation, and you can even immediately declare friendship with Gilgamesh this way! It's a small thing but early in the game that small bonus can mean the difference between being able to swing an early friendship or favorable trade deal or being told to piss off forever.
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Feb 7, 2021 18:01
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Or having war declared on you within like ten turns.
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Feb 7, 2021 19:47
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That falls under getting told to piss off.
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Feb 7, 2021 20:40
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Have the devs ever said why they limit the number of possible religions? It's really drat annoying to be playing a civ with very specifically religion-focused abilities and then, 40 turns in, be completely cut off from using any of them. Time to restart my attempt at a Philip II game for the fifth time...
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Feb 7, 2021 22:26
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showbiz_liz posted:Have the devs ever said why they limit the number of possible religions? It's really drat annoying to be playing a civ with very specifically religion-focused abilities and then, 40 turns in, be completely cut off from using any of them. Time to restart my attempt at a Philip II game for the fifth time... I don't know if they've ever said as much but I'm pretty sure they really want to have religious blocs be a thing where you can have multiple civs invested in the same religion and working together, instead of a zero sum game where the only way for two civs to share a religion is for one to kill the other's native religion (which would tend to make them enemies rather than allies.) Not that it ever works like that, of course.
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Feb 7, 2021 23:06
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Fortunately in Spain's case, they don't need to have founded a religion to get their bonus of ... +4 combat strength against other players following different religions? The downside is that you're playing as Spain, a civ whose abilities can be summed up as "confused and aimless."
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Feb 7, 2021 23:29
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Bluff Buster posted:Fortunately in Spain's case, they don't need to have founded a religion to get their bonus of ... +4 combat strength against other players following different religions? The downside is that you're playing as Spain, a civ whose abilities can be summed up as "confused and aimless." Byzantium feels like Spain done right. The religion/domination mix is just so much nicer there.
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Feb 8, 2021 01:15
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Yeah both Spain and Georgia get flak for not having an advantage for founding a religion but their abilities work with an adopted one just as well, its actually really interesting game design. I'd suggest just playing a game through as them. I think the thing that would make that intended bloc system work would be to make religions controllable by someone besides their founded and develop a system for that, perhaps like a mini congress. Rimusutera fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Feb 8, 2021 |
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Feb 8, 2021 02:21
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Rimusutera posted:Yeah both Spain and Georgia get flak for not having an advantage for founding a religion but their abilities work with an adopted one just as well, its actually really interesting game design. I'd suggest just playing a game through as them. Georgia's big problem is that it is just bad.....it has good walls, which is neat, but their unique wall is unimpressive. Not to mention protectorate war faith gain isn't anything to write home about, protectorate wars usually happen way before you are set up to actually stop the ai from taking your city state or able to adequately push on the ai yourself, and while the ability to chain golden ages is nice, it just doesn't stack enough to make Georgia a meaningful competitor with other civs. Georgia feels as close to a blank civ with no real bonuses as you can get in the game.
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Feb 8, 2021 02:28
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I'm a big fan of this modded Spain. More focused on war with getting a free Grand Master's Chapel and a more focused combat bonus, gaining +7 combat strength near cities that do not follow your religion. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=898098597
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Feb 8, 2021 06:11
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Rimusutera posted:Yeah both Spain and Georgia get flak for not having an advantage for founding a religion but their abilities work with an adopted one just as well, its actually really interesting game design. I'd suggest just playing a game through as them. New Religious units: Popes and Anti-Popes.
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Feb 8, 2021 06:45
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I recommend playing a game as Norway and building way fewer campuses/theater squares than you usually do. It is super easy to keep up so long as you've got land to pillage and it will make you appreciate just how much loot is just sitting around on the map for future playthroughs. This is so true. You will even see it in your end score, by far my highest score ever was with a pillage heavy Norway, and it isn't even close.
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Feb 9, 2021 02:58
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Rimusutera posted:I think the thing that would make that intended bloc system work would be to make religions controllable by someone besides their founded and develop a system for that, perhaps like a mini congress. Early on you even see that boost message that's like "the growth of your religion comes with the threat of schisms"... would be very cool to actually make that happen mechanically. Like maybe adopt someone else's religion and then swap one of the beliefs for another one?
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Feb 9, 2021 07:52
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Finally got around to installing this after the Epic Store giveaway. Apparently I have one expansion too. Can someone give me a summary of the different DLCs and what they offer? (I've never played a Civ game before but I always get FOMO so I know I'll be wanting to purchase some DLC soon despite the fact I probably won't sink many hours into it)
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Feb 14, 2021 02:33
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Looten Plunder posted:Finally got around to installing this after the Epic Store giveaway. Apparently I have one expansion too. Can someone give me a summary of the different DLCs and what they offer? (I've never played a Civ game before but I always get FOMO so I know I'll be wanting to purchase some DLC soon despite the fact I probably won't sink many hours into it) The important ones are the Rise and Fall expansion, and the Gathering Storm expansion. I'd get those for sure (particularly Rise and Fall), even on a first playthrough. Then there's a bunch of culture packs, which add in news states to play as or against. And finally there's the New Frontier, which has been coming out for the last year and is basically a bunch of twists and modifiers mixed with some additional cultures. Here's a detailed look at all the DLC: https://www.pcgamesn.com/civilization-vi/civ-6-dlc-worth-it
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Feb 14, 2021 05:05
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Just dipped my toe back into some Civ 4 tonight and whoo boy is it way better at the Just One More Turn effect, somehow.
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Feb 14, 2021 06:31
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Can I buy expansions from other websites and activate it on the Epic Store version of the game? For example, Rise & Fall appears to be on special on Green Man gaming. Will that key work on Epic?
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Looten Plunder posted:Can I buy expansions from other websites and activate it on the Epic Store version of the game? For example, Rise & Fall appears to be on special on Green Man gaming. Will that key work on Epic? Green man specifically gives steam codes, so I don't think so
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Feb 14, 2021 12:48
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All good, got it on Humble Store.
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Feb 14, 2021 15:39
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Is it just me or is the AI much more bloodthirsty since the latest update? Trajan in particular hasn't just been conquering nearby city states, he's been razing them. Like, gently caress, dude, I was nearly Preslav's suzerain.
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I noticed that too. Normally, when I get the “unnamed city state conquered” notification I know either Tomyris or ze Germans are in the game. Now fuckin Seondok and Peter are conquering city states. And yet somehow I’m the only player on the map that doesn’t get to vote on the emergency. At least it’ll give me someone to liberate later when I’m bored.
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Bob A Feet posted:I noticed that too. Normally, when I get the “unnamed city state conquered” notification I know either Tomyris or ze Germans are in the game. Now fuckin Seondok and Peter are conquering city states. And yet somehow I’m the only player on the map that doesn’t get to vote on the emergency. I can't even liberate them! There's just a smoking ruin!
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Feb 14, 2021 19:28
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So I see this is currently on sale. As someone who loved Civ 4 and found 5 okay but not as good as 4, is this worth picking up?
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axeil posted:So I see this is currently on sale. As someone who loved Civ 4 and found 5 okay but not as good as 4, is this worth picking up? I played a ton of 4 and I've really come around on 6. It's pretty different but very enjoyable. I'd recommend it. Def get the major expansions. Starting out if youre not sure who to pick Rome is a good all around civ to start with.
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I’d say so. After playing the two expansions (Rise and Fall and Gathering Storm), I couldn’t do vanilla again. I’d advise for your minimum purchase to at least account for those. They’ve been pouring content into the game via the Frontier Pass (content updates every other month), so if you like the game you can buy that later. I play it on Switch and love it. The computer version is ultimately better than that too.
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Feb 15, 2021 01:13
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Yeah the platinum edition is on sale. Is that the one I should get? It has everything but the new frontier pass.
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Feb 15, 2021 01:38
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Frontier pass content is really only useful once you've gotten tired of the basic gameplay and need variety, it's all additive optional modes and extra civs and the platinum version (which is everything except the pass) has like 40 to be going on with. With it not being complete yet and at current sale prices I imagine it costs as much as the platinum edition does on its own anyhow. Easy skip until you've sank 100s of hours into the main game
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Feb 15, 2021 03:06
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don't forget to check out any mods, there's tons of cool stuff nowadays
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axeil posted:So I see this is currently on sale. As someone who loved Civ 4 and found 5 okay but not as good as 4, is this worth picking up? I was a sucker for 4 and found 5 okay and so coming from that I say 6 is worth getting into. Its a huge improvement over 5.
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Feb 15, 2021 16:04
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I bought 6 at release like a sucker, and I'm not spending another penny until they finish making content and I can buy the "Everything" edition.
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Feb 15, 2021 17:10
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I remember a lot of talk that the best Civ was Civ 5 with the Vox Populi mod. Is that still a thing, or did they manage to screw it up?
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Feb 15, 2021 20:02
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According to the internet, both Civ 5 and 6 were worse than their predecessors until the second expansion or so.
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