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Ugly In The Morning posted:Every time I rewatch community I give up in S3. The first two seasons are amazing but he got way too enamored with gimmick episodes. Season 3 just about reaches the point where half the cast has nothing to do.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Like others have said, it’s not adapting the graphic novel. There’s a scene at the beginning of an episode that’s about a character who was around the fake alien squid, though, and it shows the aftermath and even pans over the squid and it’s phenomenal, it’s gotta be online somewhere. People who hate Lindeloff are extremely conflicted about the Watchmen series. Because he did a really loving good job at it, Ep 6 is the best episode of anything filmed that year. The whole thing is just aces, but that episode belongs in a museum. And here's the squid reveal, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6eJkZJ1opo
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Feb 15, 2021 10:43
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Basically the only thing I'll ever grant Snyder in terms of actual storytelling is that I actually do get why he moved away from the giant squid, and I think the approach they ended up going with was better for the movie. The giant squid works in the comics because, while it does come off as just completely absurd, they had the space to subtly pave the way towards it so that it doesn't come off as a complete non-sequitir. But because they had to cut a few things out to make the movie adaptation not a billion hours long, it actually works fairly well to replace the giant squid with 'I'm gonna nuke a city and blame Doctor Manhattan'. But since we're talking about Zack 'Four-Hour Justice League Movie' Snyder, I suspect that bit of plot streamlining wasn't his idea.
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Feb 15, 2021 11:17
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Nah, the doctor Manhattan stuff makes less sense. Why would the Soviets take that lying down when Manhattan is clearly aligned with the US?
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Feb 15, 2021 11:22
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GoutPatrol posted:Watching Saturday Night Fever for the first time. John Travolta is dropping n-bombs and more ten minutes in. I guess I never knew how sanitized the parodies that everyone has seen were. I remember when I was a teenager I thought all the parodies of Saturday Night Fever and similar were hilarious so when the film came on TV my family all sat down to watch it together. We didn't get very far before changing the channel. 
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Nah, the doctor Manhattan stuff makes less sense. Why would the Soviets take that lying down when Manhattan is clearly aligned with the US? Didn't he aim for an American city? I admit I don't remember that part, but I feel like the angle of 'Doctor Manhattan blew up Houston then hosed off to Mars' would at least rule out American aggression as a cause. Or at least, rule it out well enough for me to buy it as an elaborate movie climax.
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Feb 15, 2021 11:28
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Cleretic posted:Didn't he aim for an American city? I admit I don't remember that part, but I feel like the angle of 'Doctor Manhattan blew up Houston then hosed off to Mars' would at least rule out American aggression as a cause. Or at least, rule it out well enough for me to buy it as an elaborate movie climax. It was multiple cities around the world in the movie, instead of just NYC.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Nah, the doctor Manhattan stuff makes less sense. Why would the Soviets take that lying down when Manhattan is clearly aligned with the US? He destroys New York and a ton of other places, the message is the exact same. Humanity as a whole faces a threat we need to unite to solve.
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Feb 15, 2021 11:39
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RillAkBea posted:I remember when I was a teenager I thought all the parodies of Saturday Night Fever and similar were hilarious so when the film came on TV my family all sat down to watch it together. We didn't get very far before changing the channel. that movie's in one of the weird cultural situations where all the parodies are riffing off of people's concept of what the original is based on other people's parodies b/c the original just isn't good enough for people to have gone and seen that first i've always wanted to see people try to reconstruct stuff out of references to it, like the simpsons or mst3k or even stuff like the animaniacs. trying to figure how much can you say about the shape of a work from the shadows it's casting on later media, except specificially just parodies and in-jokes
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flatluigi posted:that movie's in one of the weird cultural situations where all the parodies are riffing off of people's concept of what the original is based on other people's parodies b/c the original just isn't good enough for people to have gone and seen that first I mean, I'm not saying it was a bad movie. There are just many parts that would never, ever make sense to today's audiences. including john travolta trying to rape his dance partner and it ends with both of them going "let's stay friends, ok?" Apparently there is the original, R rated version and a PG version they released later in theaters and for TV that removed alot of that stuff.
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flatluigi posted:that movie's in one of the weird cultural situations where all the parodies are riffing off of people's concept of what the original is based on other people's parodies b/c the original just isn't good enough for people to have gone and seen that first Rocky is very similar in that so much cultural reference to it really comes from the sequels. The original is about 90% gloomy and depressing stuff up until the climax. I guess Rambo as well - if you were to ask any random person to visualize Rambo they are almost certainly not thinking of anything from First Blood.
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letthereberock posted:Rocky is very similar in that so much cultural reference to it really comes from the sequels. The original is about 90% gloomy and depressing stuff up until the climax. Rambo definitely fits that as well. The only person killed in the first movie is the cop who falls out of the helicopter (Although Rambo does badly wound a few others with traps in the woods). The sequels are where it turns into him mowing down waves of Vietnamese and Russians by one-handing belt-fed machine guns and using explosive arrows and whatnot.
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Didn’t the guy who wrote death wish not like the movie adaptation and wrote a sequel in which the quest for revenge is even more self destructive which they also ignored, though I think it was made into a Kevin bacon movie relatively recently
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Feb 15, 2021 15:32
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I mean its called "Death Wish" how did they miss that unsubtle clue?
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Clearly you wish upon death if you stuff Charles Bronsons family members or friends in a fridge.Cleretic posted:Basically the only thing I'll ever grant Snyder in terms of actual storytelling is that I actually do get why he moved away from the giant squid, and I think the approach they ended up going with was better for the movie. The giant squid works in the comics because, while it does come off as just completely absurd, they had the space to subtly pave the way towards it so that it doesn't come off as a complete non-sequitir. But because they had to cut a few things out to make the movie adaptation not a billion hours long, it actually works fairly well to replace the giant squid with 'I'm gonna nuke a city and blame Doctor Manhattan'. The one thing I did wish the movie still kept was the aftermath of the explosion. Because it just feels to sterile and bloodless.. and this coming from Zach Snyder who added gore to a lot of other scenes
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Ambitious Spider posted:Didn’t the guy who wrote death wish not like the movie adaptation and wrote a sequel in which the quest for revenge is even more self destructive which they also ignored, though I think it was made into a Kevin bacon movie relatively recently Death Warrant. Kevin by the end is nearly impossible to distinguish from his enemies, and his actions kill even more members of his family, leaving one son in a coma to wake up without anyone left in his life. Still has lots of hero shots so you know Kevin Bacon on a rampage is cool.
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marshmallow creep posted:Death Warrant. Kevin by the end is nearly impossible to distinguish from his enemies, and his actions kill even more members of his family, leaving one son in a coma to wake up without anyone left in his life. I’ve seen that movie,all i can remember is a gas store robbery and kevin bacon shaves all his hair off towards the end before he goes all shotgun rampage(maybe a mohawk?)
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Pretty much. It wasn't super memorable.
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bobjr posted:He got his own TV show even that got record ratings for the network at the time, only for it to be cancelled soon after because he abused several women in the cast. Its worthwhile to notice that that show, Anger management, did reach the 50 or so episodes because they just kept filming after the 2nd season, to reach the number required for the show to be sold into syndication. Charlie Sheen will keep on collecting residuals from that trainwreck (and two and half men) until the heat death of the sun and makes more money while taking a dump, than most of us make in a month.
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Vandar posted:Speaking of early 2000s Fox shows, has anyone watched Dark Angel recently? I really liked it while it was airing and part of me has been wanting to revisit it recently, but I'm still scared that it's not going to hold up and it's going to ruin my memories of it. I also enjoyed as a nerdy teenager way back when it was airing, tried to revisit it a couple of years ago. The first season was kind of bland, with a gross tendency to put 17-18 year old Jessica Alba in skimpy outfits as disguises for whatever she was doing that week. Plus Pontiac desperately trying to make the Aztec seem cool. Never made it through into the second season with the early super-soldier animal people, the cult, and other stuff that I vaguely recall from nearly 20 years ago. Looking at wikipedia, it seems the planned third season would have revealed that all the breeding poo poo was a plan to immunize people against a space virus and Max/Alba was the plan to spread it to the rest of humanity rather than just the millennia old gently caress cult. Though the series was oddly prescient. Premiered just a few weeks after 9/11, with a major terrorist attack (set in '09 for the show) reducing the US to a semi-authoritarian state with crumbling infrastructure by 2019, before Jessica Alba would have saved us all from a highly contagious and deadly virus in approximately 2021.
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Grammarchist posted:Not that Invasion USA (1952) had aged particularly well even within its own decade, but the scene where Soviet Paratroopers invade the Capitol building and kill a congressman has taken on some weird connotations. Not to mention it being immediately followed by a scene where American generals mock the dead congressman for cutting the military's budget. i love that movie I JUST WANT TO BUILD TRACTORS
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Preem Palver posted:I also enjoyed as a nerdy teenager way back when it was airing, tried to revisit it a couple of years ago. I had no idea she was that young when she made the show. I am glad the genre of “put female lead into specific revealing costume/sexy circumstance for this week’s adventure” is a dead genre. I hope.
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I don't think I ever saw Dark Angel, but I did work on the spin off ps2 game, and Jessica Alba, hang your head in shame woman. I know it was a poo poo, by the numbers, cash grab game, but her reading every. single. line. in exactly the same monotone just made the testing experience so much duller than it needed to be.
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Dark Angel really suffered from something a lot of shows did back then to "stay fresh" which was to introduce stupid conspiracies and mysteries which never went anywhere. I really liked the early 2nd season idea of the super-soldiers who didn't look human because it introduced a whole complex dynamic with friction between the ones who had visible animal traits and the beautiful perfect Aryan ubermensches we'd been watching for the first season. Like the difference between the X-Men and the Morlocks. Then they immediately dropped that whole plot point and I don't think we saw them ever again. Instead we got the boring old "Look, there's a mystery with a group called Chimera or Manticore or something." Yawn. Like being hunted by the entire US military and intelligence services wasn't enough? There really had to be a shadow cabal behind the scenes?
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Pookah posted:I don't think I ever saw Dark Angel, but I did work on the spin off ps2 game, and Jessica Alba, hang your head in shame woman. A common complaint I've seen about videogame voice acting recording is how they're just fed lines with no context, which I imagine was the problem there.
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I liked Dark Angel a whole lot when I was a dumb kid. Original Cindy was the first gay character I ever saw in anything and I had a big crush on her. Also my first exposure to Kevin Durand!!!
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I never watched Dark Angel, which is weird because I was a teenage boy with an appreciation for Jessica Alba at the time. All I remember at all was that Lita, the former pro wrestler, hosed up her neck doing a stunt when she was guest starring on the show and it pretty much put a pin in her wrestling career. She was more or less bumped down to "manager/escort/ringside accompaniment" status since she wasn't able to physically do as much in the ring anymore. Edit: It would appear I was wrong about her not wrestling anymore after the injury. She did recover and have matches again. Apparently I completely blanked out the period between her getting hurt and hooking up with Edge. the_steve has a new favorite as of 21:20 on Feb 15, 2021 |
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the only thing I remember from Dark Angel is that the main character "went into heat" like a cat
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I never watched it, but when Fox was promoting it prior to it originally airing, it made me think of the then-new Perfect Dark and I thought they were somehow related.
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Yeah it's funny that the reputation of Saturday Night Fever is "that light hearted romcom where Travolta dances", when it most certainly isn't. But if something is light, it's the music. I love the strings on this song. It's like slowly sinking to a pool filled with marshmellows and candycone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy0rYUvn7To
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letthereberock posted:Rocky is very similar in that so much cultural reference to it really comes from the sequels. The original is about 90% gloomy and depressing stuff up until the climax. I saw Rambo before I saw First Blood. So when I saw First Blood, I was expecting another boom boom fighty action movie where Stallone punches, stabs and shoots all the bad guys and then wins. Instead I got a film about a man with PTSD broken by war and a husk of the man he used to be. Frightened, alone, lost, and thrust back into a world that he did not understand that actively hated and feared him for all his suffering. And like you said, there is a lot to be said about the similarities between the Rocky and Rambo franchises this way. The first of them is a film about broken men struggling with toxic masculinity and it's consequences trying to find their way in a world that at best doesn't care about them, or in First Blood actively despises them. The sequels are about Stallone being a big shiny muscly power man who will punch all his enemies and win in glory, (after an initial setback and then a training montage of course). And whilst I am talking about Rocky, I don't think Carl Weathers gets enough respect for his role as Apollo Creed in the first one. He really shines, and makes him a fully rounded character, whilst most of the plaudits go to Sylvester. And I say all this actually liking Rambo for what it is: a popcorn film with explosions and shooting in the jungle.
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At least with Rocky they kind of brought things back to their roots at the end. Did that ever happen with Rambo?
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christmas boots posted:At least with Rocky they kind of brought things back to their roots at the end. Did that ever happen with Rambo? The latest Rambo movie is him murdering a bunch of cartel guys who invade his property. So no.
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muscles like this! posted:The latest Rambo movie is him murdering a bunch of cartel guys who rape and kill a female character that was introduced in this movie to give motivation to the male character. So no.
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I know I had seen Dark Angel, but I can't remember a damned thing about it.
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Milo and POTUS posted:To be fair to the man [Stephen King] while he's a fairly liberally minded white guy he's old as gently caress and born/lived in MAINE. Every loving black influence in his life has probably come from Southern Lit or Blaxploitation films. It's questionable but goddamn I don't think the guy's jonesing for loving segregation or anything.
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Whenever Dark Angel is not riding a motorcycle, people should ask "where is the motorcycle?"
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Grouchio posted:Yeah he's not. That's about the average amount of exposure people his age north of Augusta would've gotten (source: Lived a town over from Bangor until 2003). That excuse would not work in Lewiston or the Portland area however; we have a sizeable Somali population in southern Maine metro so it's quite cosmopolitan. Bangor besides the downtown casino looks the fuckin same. Think southern New Brunswick. My dude did you just reply to a post from 2017?
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marshmallow creep posted:My dude did you just reply to a post from 2017? Set an alarm for 2025 to see if they answer you.
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To be fair, dunking on Stephen King will always age pretty well.
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