Cael posted:

I would rather watch Age of Extinction 10 times over end to end than see a minute of Revenge of the Fallen when Skids and Mudflap are on screen.

catlord posted:

I saw the first Transformers movie (on DVD well after release) and passed on all the others, and I'd heard about them but it wasn't until I actually saw them in a clip recently that I realised just how bad they were. How in the goddamn gently caress did that poo poo make it through the development process?

MacheteZombie posted:

drat, Jason might be the only hope we have of stopping Prime

CelticPredator posted:

I just really like Dawn of the dead.

Shageletic posted:

Also, what the gently caress was that point of that movie?

Jamesman posted:

So I've been thinking.

In the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie - the Michael Bay one - the turtles get captured and they're going to be bled dry to to use their mutant DNA for... I can't remember what, exactly.

Wouldn't it have made more sense to, like, draw some of their blood, and then give them cookies and orange juice and then take more blood, and just repeat that process a whole lot? Instead of just killing them, you could keep getting more blood.

Shageletic posted:

The last act lost me. And killing all the characters in the credits left a bad taste in my mouth.

Also, what the gently caress was that point of that movie?

Like the original had some salient points about commercialism at least.

Roth posted:

Not really. He's still an obvious bigot that regularly calls women whores and thinks purely in black and white terms. If anything, I think the difference is that while Alan Moore regrets writing him so sympathetically, Snyder doesn't mind that people sympathize with the mentally ill homeless man.

I think a lot of people like to point out that Zack Snyder didn't "get" Watchmen, but I'm not so sure what it is he's not "getting" with the comic and his adaptation. It's not that you're supposed to hate Rorshach or that violence is bad. It's that the morality of superheroes can not survive a capitalist system. It will only lead to "heroes" like Veidt taking their heroism to the most extreme conclusion: That it is good and just to slaughter millions to save the rest. The key to Rorshach, I think, is that he chooses to die rather than keep this a secret.



He even sheds his "face" as Rorshach and dies as Walter Kovacs. For all of his faults, all of his bigotries, and all of his actions: Rorshach is still the only one who chooses to not be complicit.

I love Watchmen, as the comic and as the film adaptation. I think a lot of people get caught up on Rorshach, all of his unpleasant qualities, and act like the whole comic is about making GBS threads on him. I don't think I've ever seen people concerned about "Wait, people think Ozymandias was right to murder millions?"

Lunatic Sledge posted:

oh buddy

the plan was to use the mutagen in their blood to make an antidote to the toxin shredder was going to release all over the globe

so it would actually make a hundred times more sense to try and keep the turtle blood supply as sustainable as possible and not just drain them to death right then and there, unless they had figured out how to reverse engineer the mutagen from said blood, in which case ... why all this

but it would have also made more sense to put the turtles to sleep during the process

and also maybe wait until you have a healthy supply of those antidotes before gassing the surrounding city

but I dunno maybe that's why I'm not the Shredder

Cael posted:

I would rather watch Age of Extinction 10 times over end to end than see a minute of Revenge of the Fallen when Skids and Mudflap are on screen. Also come on, Stanley Tucci slamming a blackboard as he literally yells "ALGORITHSM! MATH!"? Perfection.

Release the Tucci cut of Age of Extinction where it's just his scenes. THAT's a perfect movie.

bushisms.txt posted:

I'm pretty sure every one has some issue with BvS, even the cined approved black and white cut had controversial edits within the dome. They just don't entertain bad faith takes based on media outside the film. Snyder is called a fascist emboldening objectivist dude bro, so what are his fans? Clutching your pearls at people asking for clarification to inane takes doesn't change that.

A talking coyote posted:

No don’t! Embrace the Baychat!

quote:

Producer Michael Bay walked out in the movie premiere, stating that the movie featured too much sex.

Quotey posted:

did anyone else think that scott snyder and zack snyder were the same people?

Shageletic posted:

Rorscharch seemed to be more "whole" in the comics, his actions being a natural result of his beliefs. The movie sanded off those edges and made him a much more conventional and relatable protaganist of an already sympathetic character in the comics.

This is at least partly due to the limits of the 2 hour movie format. That's why I think it's impossible to really do Watchmen justice on the screen. It can only really be at its fullest within the restraints and freedom of the comic book page.

catlord posted:

Wait, they cut that scene? I was under the impression that was one of the most important ones, the one scene where Rorschach allows his humanity to show through and he does the decent thing, despite that being antithetical to his Objectivist, black and white world-view, and the one scene where he allows himself weakness and a momentary shade of grey. It's foreshadowing to his later confrontation with Doctor Manhattan in Antarctica, and arguably foreshadowing his own death.

Edit: I've only seen the end of Watchmen, from about reaching Antarctica to the credits, so I'm not super sure how close or not the earlier sections are to the source material.

muscles like this! posted:

So to change topic, apparently Sony thinks Tom Holland Spidey has a specific haircut because he mentioned in an interview that they wanted him to wear a wig for Spider-Man 3 due to the haircut he got for Uncharted.

I could not tell you what his hair looked like off the top of my head.

catlord posted:

Wait, they cut that scene? I was under the impression that was one of the most important ones, the one scene where Rorschach allows his humanity to show through and he does the decent thing, despite that being antithetical to his Objectivist, black and white world-view, and the one scene where he allows himself weakness and a momentary shade of grey. It's foreshadowing to his later confrontation with Doctor Manhattan in Antarctica, and arguably foreshadowing his own death.

Edit: I've only seen the end of Watchmen, from about reaching Antarctica to the credits, so I'm not super sure how close or not the earlier sections are to the source material.

A talking coyote posted:

It would be funny if they actually went that route and somehow found a way to make it MORE violent than just standard neck biting.

CzarChasm posted:

Hmmm. Maybe I can write for that standalone Leto Joker morbius movie...

CzarChasm posted:

IIRC in the movie version, Nite Owl and Silk Spectre spring Rorschach from the prison, he goes to the shrink's office and grabs back his mask and coat and scares the poo poo out of the shrink.


OK, how about this?. Spoiled just in case no one wants to read a Troma meets 13/yo Extreme Xtreme vampire kill.

Wrench the head away from the body at a violent angle - super painful, but not snapping the neck. Then, rather than simply biting the neck and drinking the blood, tearing a big wet chunk out of the neck, and getting a big arterial spray started. Then, the vampire uses it's super strength to lift the struggling, panicking victim over their head and basically shotguns them like a cheap beer. Finally, also like a cheap beer, the victim is crumpled and tossed aside like a worthless trash.

Hmmm. Maybe I can write for that standalone Leto Joker movie...

MacheteZombie posted:

A talking coyote posted:

Hmmmmm it’s good, but where do the hand suckers come in?

CzarChasm posted:

Wrench the head away from the body at a violent angle - super painful, but not snapping the neck. Then, rather than simply biting the neck and drinking the blood, tearing a big wet chunk out of the neck, and getting a big arterial spray started. Then, the vampire uses it's super strength Hand Suckers to lift the struggling, panicking victim over their head and basically shotguns them like a cheap beer. Finally, also like a cheap beer, the victim is crumpled and tossed aside like a worthless trash.

Davros1 posted:

I also find this trivia from the Bay produced Friday the 13th remake hilarious:

Dawgstar posted:

So Bay ignored the line in script about perfect nipple placement.

Lunatic Sledge posted:

it's brown, iirc

muscles like this! posted:

According to the interview the issue was how Nathan Drake has shorter sides and they wanted a wig specifically for that. (He said no.)

catlord posted:

I was under the impression that was one of the most important ones, the one scene where Rorschach allows his humanity to show through and he does the decent thing

MoaM posted:

That is the weirdest corporate nitpick I've heard, tbh

Davros1 posted:

My favorites come from Del Toro talking about pitching Hellboy to studios. Some of the requests:

Does he have to be a demon?
Does he have to be red?
Can't he be, like, a regular guy who when he gets angry turns into Hellboy? ("No, that's the Hulk," Del Toro told them.)

MoaM posted:

That is the weirdest corporate nitpick I've heard, tbh

FilthyImp posted:

I never got that from that sequence. He identifies with the kid crying and is sickened by seeing a younger version of himself. So he de-escalates and retreats so he can don his persona again.

Lurdiak posted:

I thought Scott Snyder and Scott Steiner were the same people for a bit and was very disappointed when they weren't.

catlord posted:

But then again, maybe I'm reading more into that than was intended.

FilthyImp posted:

"You know they say all films are created equal, but you look at me and you look at The MCU and you can see that statement is NOT TRUE! See, normally if you go one-on-one with another franchise, you got a fifty/fifty chance of winning. But I'm a cinematic freak, and I'm not normal! So you got a 25 percent at best at beat my films! And then you add Batman to the mix? You-the chances of winning drastically go down. See, you got a 33 and a third chance of winning. But I! I got a 66 and two thirds chance of winning, cuz Disney KNOOOWS they can't beat me, and they's not even gonna try. So, MCU, you take your thirty three and a third chance minus my twenty five percent chance (if we was to go one on one) and you got an eight and a third chance of winning. But then you take my 75 perchance-chance of winnin' (if we was to go one on one), and then add 66 and two thirds…percents, I got a 141 2/3 chance of winning the Box Office! The numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you!"