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Let me ask *you* a question. Why would a grown man whose shirt says "Genius at Work" spend all of his time watching a children's cartoon show?
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Feb 16, 2021 01:06
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That loving magic xylophone pissed me off.
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Feb 16, 2021 01:07
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Data Graham posted:Or am I the one super missing something OneTruePecos posted:The joke is supposed to be bad Bart is normal. It is OK, and normal to not "get" the joke. That is the point of the episode. I feel like there's a meta thing going on here where you not understanding Bart Simpson mirrors Bart, an average 10 year old, not getting calculus. The joke is supposed to be confusing and weird. I can't put it any plainer than that.
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Feb 16, 2021 01:10
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I'm not arguing that the thing that is actually funny isn't that Bart is in way over his head and doesn't get the geeky math joke. I'm just saying the math joke doesn't work as a joke on a geeky math level either.
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Feb 16, 2021 01:13
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The brilliance of the writing is that even if you "get" the joke, Bart's reaction to it is still more relatable than the nerds that think it's funny. It's not funny, it's goofy and contrived, and he arrives at the correct reaction through his own natural process of not knowing calculus. The idea is that you are meant to relate to Bart, instead of congratulating yourself for "getting" a calculus joke. That would be a Lisa thing to do.
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Feb 16, 2021 01:21
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I can totally picture them doing a bit in a new episode where Lisa somehow ends up with the same teacher and she points out that the joke makes no sense. Then they make a meta-joke about the ugly season 1 animation by depicting the nerd kids exactly how they were in 1990.
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Feb 16, 2021 01:25
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I can picture the better Simpsons writers coming up with something more clever.
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Feb 16, 2021 01:26
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Yeah I mean I shouldn't have started this derail I guess. I agree, the regular Bart end of the joke is perfectly good and funny. Lord knows I've gotten myself in enough trouble trying to tell a joke that relies on "shop talk" and it turns out the person I'm telling it to knows enough of the shop talk in question to get hung up on the intricate details of whatever it is and totally misses what was intended to be funny. "Well? Was it a turbocharger or a supercharger? That matters, they do different things! They're plumbed totally differently!" "I don't know, it was just a joke about getting oil all over himself" E: ^^ or, you know, Futurama. They tended to think it through all the way so they didn't end up like this
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Feb 16, 2021 01:28
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Data Graham posted:My point is that nobody would "get" R-D-R-R, even the genius kids, because there is no mathematical reason for them to write out a derivative like that. That is not a notation anyone uses. You don't take R2dR and split out the squared R's and put them on opposite ends of the expression. You can, but it's just confusing and weird, and not something you do as a matter of course. You'd want to simplify it back to the way it was before. It's like if the teacher said "Calculate the speed of the train" and they all somehow concluded that she wanted them to write "40 mph plus 24 mph and a bit" and then all laugh because that sentence translates to an insult against your mother in Russian. It's possible to write it like that but nobody in their right mind ever would what if the teacher had explained to the kids what exponents were at some point (before bart joined the class) and at some point they saw the notation expanded out like that as part of a lesson
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Feb 16, 2021 01:36
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Then they would have written it RRDR or DRRR anything but the one possibility they imply is "obvious" aaaaaaaa
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Feb 16, 2021 01:37
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Fuckin nerds
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Feb 16, 2021 01:39
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Lol I live for this discussion of the simps
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Feb 16, 2021 01:40
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And why is their skin yellow? Skin isn't yellow unless you're jaundiced. Are they all jaundiced? Their sclera should be yellow too, then.
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Feb 16, 2021 02:13
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Data Graham posted:Or am I the one super missing something no, that's it. it's a little odd given the strong math background of the writers
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Feb 16, 2021 02:23
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Das Boo posted:And why is their skin yellow? Skin isn't yellow unless you're jaundiced. Are they all jaundiced? Their sclera should be yellow too, then. It always bothered me that the animators would make such a basic mistake. Glad to know I wasn't the only one that noticed.
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Feb 16, 2021 02:34
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Das Boo posted:And why is their skin yellow? Skin isn't yellow unless you're jaundiced. Are they all jaundiced? Their sclera should be yellow too, then. One of the animators left the cels in his pockets when he did the laundry after coming home from work one day. He didn't have time to go back to headquarters and fix them all by hand before the others showed up for work. So he tried to pass it off as a fun little thing Fox ordered to have the show stand out. He was fired on the spot. The rest is history.
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Feb 16, 2021 02:44
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The kids are so smart they realized there was a joke if you arrange the equation in that very unorthodox way.
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Feb 16, 2021 02:51
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You do know what happens when you mix overanalyzing with a throw away joke, right?
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Feb 16, 2021 04:14
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Data Graham posted:My point is that nobody would "get" R-D-R-R, even the genius kids, because there is no mathematical reason for them to write out a derivative like that. That is not a notation anyone uses. You don't take R2dR and split out the squared R's and put them on opposite ends of the expression. You can, but it's just confusing and weird, and not something you do as a matter of course. You'd want to simplify it back to the way it was before. It's like if the teacher said "Calculate the speed of the train" and they all somehow concluded that she wanted them to write "40 mph plus 24 mph and a bit" and then all laugh because that sentence translates to an insult against your mother in Russian. It's possible to write it like that but nobody in their right mind ever would The joke is technically correct but very obscure. The audience shares those feelings with Bart - not realky sure if it's a crap joke or he's stupid. It is an example of a joke with heart - the kind Simpsons don't do any more. Also it is a lame joke with nerds referencing something outdated. The joke is also that the nerds think they're funny when they're not. Now modern Simpsons *is* the unfunny outdated references that thinks itself hilarious. So there's levels where the RDRR joke as-told fails - it's obscure in construction and it's obscure in its references. It has all the component but falls flat regardless. Which is what makes the scene succeed. That is the joke. E: and it's still fitting with the broader contextual narrative because porfiria posted:The kids are so smart they realized there was a joke if you arrange the equation in that very unorthodox way. simplefish fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Feb 16, 2021 |
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Feb 16, 2021 04:42
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Hedgehog Pie posted:I can totally picture them doing a bit in a new episode where Lisa somehow ends up with the same teacher and she points out that the joke makes no sense. Then they make a meta-joke about the ugly season 1 animation by depicting the nerd kids exactly how they were in 1990. Ugh the bad part is that you aren't wrong.
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Feb 16, 2021 04:43
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Man my wires got crossed and I was so sure that the RDRR bit was You Only Move Twice what the gently caress
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Feb 16, 2021 04:54
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Pretty good posted:Man my wires got crossed and I was so sure that the RDRR bit was You Only Move Twice what the gently caress What's really weird is for how much people are complaining about it, it's literally one of two lines I actually remember from Bart the genius
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Feb 16, 2021 04:57
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:Apparently Hardy Har Har is an actual phrase somewhere but I've never heard it. oh jesus christ.
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Feb 16, 2021 05:19
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Don't you GET it, Bart?
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Feb 16, 2021 06:37
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Muk Dumpster posted:Let me ask *you* a question. Why would a grown man whose shirt says "Genius at Work" spend all of his time watching a children's cartoon show? Because I'm working from home and turns out my actual job doesn't take that much time to do.
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Feb 16, 2021 09:06
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Data Graham posted:Then they would have written it RRDR or DRRR anything but the one possibility they imply is "obvious" aaaaaaaa I've had a cold, so-- Oh so you hear R's as D's? Yes. I understand.
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Feb 16, 2021 10:26
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ikanreed posted:You do know what happens when you mix overanalyzing with a throw away joke, right? This thread?
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Feb 16, 2021 10:40
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Red dead redemption red
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Feb 16, 2021 10:48
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Is there a gif of the teacher doing the awkward dance
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Feb 16, 2021 10:49
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Yep
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Feb 16, 2021 10:49
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loving hell that animation style sucked so bad
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Feb 16, 2021 10:50
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Is that the Klasky-Czupo season? I feel that works better with their signature ugly, caricature ish designs.
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Feb 16, 2021 10:53
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Nerds write derivatives like this Normal people write derivatives like this
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Feb 16, 2021 11:51
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I couldn't believe this hadn't been done, so
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Feb 16, 2021 12:03
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Das Boo posted:I couldn't believe this hadn't been done, so  das boo should get to be the supreme ruler for a day
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Feb 16, 2021 15:30
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Das Boo posted:I couldn't believe this hadn't been done, so This is my car hole!
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Feb 16, 2021 15:40
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Maybe like a lot of insufferable brats, those kids were laughing at the RDRR joke just because they thought they were supposed to and didn't actually get the odd math necessary to derive the joke.
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Feb 16, 2021 18:08
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iamsosmrt posted:Maybe like a lot of insufferable brats, those kids were laughing at the RDRR joke just because they thought they were supposed to and didn't actually get the odd math necessary to derive the joke. nah, they started laughing before the teacher explained it. I'm not in any way a math dude and I still caught that it didn't make sense when I watched that episode a couple weeks ago. DG is completely correct, and it's also weird that they did the joke that way, given that a bunch of the writers had advanced math degrees. But also 
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Feb 16, 2021 20:53
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there's a Dexter's Lab where the clue is r2 and the computer reminds Dexter that pi equals r2 and Dexter is embarrassed that he didn't think of that very obvious fact before the computer did.
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Feb 16, 2021 20:55
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When the college professor said "Out with the old, in with the nucleus", do you think the students were laughing because they actually thought it was funny, or because they felt obligated to laugh to appear smart?
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Feb 16, 2021 21:05
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