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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Shipon posted:

In the 2016 primaries I voted for Trump in the GOP primaries under the assumption he would be the weaker candidate and the general election would be a Hillary landslide. I liked Bernie but I figured he had zero chance so there was no point in voting in that primary, but wanted to tank Cruz so registered Republican just to vote in that primary.

Yeah needless to say I had a lot of things to rethink in the next few years after that

hoo boy

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Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Shipon posted:

In the 2016 primaries I voted for Trump in the GOP primaries under the assumption he would be the weaker candidate and the general election would be a Hillary landslide. I liked Bernie but I figured he had zero chance so there was no point in voting in that primary, but wanted to tank Cruz so registered Republican just to vote in that primary.

Yeah needless to say I had a lot of things to rethink in the next few years after that

Have you ever heard of a phrase that goes to the tune of, "too clever by half"?

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

https://clips.twitch.tv/FrigidDeafFriseeRlyTho-r3ndzocwOLUlUK0w

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
lol that's not as bad as the goon who voted for Kamala for president with some absolutely brain melting justification and then posted about it.

also on the Valentine's ep of Bad Faith:

brie (exasperated after 30 minutes of being deflected): "so, what IS true romance to you?"

virgil: "hmm... you know Japanese kamikaze pilots..?"

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005

Majorian posted:

Have you ever heard of a phrase that goes to the tune of, "too clever by half"?

Yup I was an idiot

ben shapino
Nov 22, 2020

crepeface posted:

lol that's not as bad as the goon who voted for Kamala for president with some absolutely brain melting justification and then posted about it.

also on the Valentine's ep of Bad Faith:

brie (exasperated after 30 minutes of being deflected): "so, what IS true romance to you?"

virgil: "hmm... you know Japanese kamikaze pilots..?"

The justification was that he couldn't possibly vote for disgusting neoliberal rapist Joe Biden out of principle, and he wanted his protest vote to show just how incredibly low his standards were when it came to getting trump out of office, which he demonstrated by voting for the candidate he couldn't possibly vote for's running mate. A protest vote which definitely sent a strong message, and definitely didn't just cause a vote counter to stop for half a second, assume he's some dumbass who doesn't know how voting works, and immediately forgetting about it 2 seconds later.

Somehow the way to show how disgustingly low your standards are is to... vote for the other person on the same ticket?


They also said they didn't vote for Bernie because Bernie said not to do that, completely ignoring the fact that Bernie literally said to vote for Joe Biden, which he didn't do.



This person insisted that this was somehow a meaningful gesture lmao

ben shapino has issued a correction as of 09:30 on Feb 16, 2021

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

my doctrinaire libertarian friend voted for himself instead of jorgensen and i think i respect that

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Shipon posted:

Yup I was an idiot

That’s okay, I was a lib into my early 30’s, so I have zero room to talk.

Good Chapo. The Bruenigs are good eggs.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I have voted for La Riva every election and I accept that she is the closest I'll ever get to someone I'd actually want running anything.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Squizzle looks down and nods. Yes. He IS a la Riva stan. I'm not owned afterall.

Clibanarius
Sep 22, 2020

by Athanatos
hold up a second

Someone voted for Kamala Harris? Like, via write-in, or what? I think we found the one person in the entire country who actually voted for her (outside of the idiots who voted Biden/Harris affirmatively in the general)

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

crepeface posted:

lol that's not as bad as the goon who voted for Kamala for president with some absolutely brain melting justification and then posted about it.

wasnt that just a joke

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Clibanarius posted:

hold up a second

Someone voted for Kamala Harris? Like, via write-in, or what? I think we found the one person in the entire country who actually voted for her (outside of the idiots who voted Biden/Harris affirmatively in the general)

quote:

I wrote-in Kamala Harris because I wanted my protest vote to make clear how appallingly low my standards are when the alternative is Trump. I could not bring myself to vote for a rapist, or for someone who is suffering cognitive decline. A write-in vote of Bernie seemed utterly pointless to me. I live in Massachusetts and if I lived in a swing state I very may well have voted for Biden. But my life would probably be really different if that were the case, so I can't really say for sure.

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Farm Frenzy posted:

wasnt that just a joke

if it was a bit, they were very committed to it

quote:

I respected Bernie enough to not go against his wish for his supporters to not use his name as a protest vote.
I did not have the same respect for Kamala Harris, who I presume very much did not want people to write in her name for President.

quote:

If your actual position is "words and symbolic gestures don't do anything to materially help people so they don't matter," then a write-in vote for Kamala is exactly the same thing as a write-in for Bernie Sanders is exactly the same thing as not voting. You hate me because I find a way to be logically consistent in this world without being completely nihilist.

quote:

Tell a lib you wrote in Bernie Sanders and they'll have a whole list of talking points ready to go and be smugly superior behind.
Tell a lib you wrote in Kamala Harris and watch them loving contort themselves into trying to comprehend.
Second one is way more fun, you should try it sometime even if you didn't write in Kamala like my galaxy brain rear end did.

quote:

Joe Biden said if he believed Tara Reade he wouldn't vote for himself either. So I didn't. If Kamala Harris hadn't flamed out hilariously and her record as AG came under closer examination, if she had said something to the effect of "If I thought trans prisoners deserved humane treatment I wouldn't vote for me either" or anything that implied that, I would not have voted for her. I wrote in Kamala as a symbolic gesture to show my distaste for the entire process, and, as I explained in the other thread: I respected Bernie Sanders enough to not go against his wishes for his supporters to not use his name as a protest vote. I did not show Kamala Harris that respect. I have done nothing, objectively speaking, to actually support her. If I told 100 Khivers "I wrote in Kamala Harris" with no other context, I am positive that all 100 of them would ask me what the gently caress my problem is. I would hope that c-spam would be able to understand that.

quote:

That's your mistake, right there. Kamala Harris was not an "option" for president in any meangingful sense whatsoever. The logic applied to a vote for Biden does not apply to a "vote" for Kamala Harris. It's nothing but symbolic self-expression and I have explained my authorial intent.

quote:

If I had wanted Kamala Harris to be President, writing her name in when she's on the Democratic ticket as Vice-President would be literally the least constructive thing I could possibly have done.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
very classy to leave out the goon's name. very gentlemanly

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

gradenko_2000 posted:

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if it was a bit, they were very committed to it

yea that still reads like a bit sorry. they mightve actually done it irl though, as a bit

Farm Frenzy has issued a correction as of 13:47 on Feb 16, 2021

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

gradenko_2000 posted:

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if it was a bit, they were very committed to it

Should have named him, but he does have mod protection

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

Yeah that sounds like he was just protest voting in a trolly way.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
lol no way guys

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

Larry Parrish posted:

Squizzle looks down and nods. Yes. He IS a la Riva stan. I'm not owned afterall.

ben shapino
Nov 22, 2020

gradenko_2000 posted:

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if it was a bit, they were very committed to it

Thinking about how owned those khivers would feel if I told them I voted for kamala and having a lol

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018


https://twitter.com/Simprano_Tony/status/1361424134111117318

Protagorean
May 19, 2013

by Azathoth
i wrote in Hillary R-Word Clinton :patriot:

Clibanarius
Sep 22, 2020

by Athanatos
https://twitter.com/JackDunc1/status/1361430171413344257

what in the mother of loving poo poo

Can someone go re-colonize the British Isles, please? I don't care if it's China, India, a unified pan-Africanist coalition, the Global South unified under the banner of Maoist Third-Worldism, the goddamn Greys from Beta Reticulae. Whoever. Just go and subjugate them. Deny them agency as a population until they've proven themselves improved enough to be classifiable as 'human being' again. Jesus motherfucking Christ.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Clibanarius posted:

https://twitter.com/JackDunc1/status/1361430171413344257

what in the mother of loving poo poo

Can someone go re-colonize the British Isles, please? I don't care if it's China, India, a unified pan-Africanist coalition, the Global South unified under the banner of Maoist Third-Worldism, the goddamn Greys from Beta Reticulae. Whoever. Just go and subjugate them. Deny them agency as a population until they've proven themselves improved enough to be classifiable as 'human being' again. Jesus motherfucking Christ.

sad thing is that their leaders are too much poisoned by neoliberalism to do any of this. conservatives could dole one or two of these out an election cycle and stay in power for 40 years

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

bedpan posted:

sad thing is that their leaders are too much poisoned by neoliberalism to do any of this. conservatives could dole one or two of these out an election cycle and stay in power for 40 years

that's the plan

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Farm Frenzy posted:

wasnt that just a joke

i see you're unfamiliar with spiderhyphenman

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

oh this is jsut some arcane succ or trump thread beef isnt it. resuming patrol

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

Clibanarius posted:

https://twitter.com/JackDunc1/status/1361430171413344257

what in the mother of loving poo poo

Can someone go re-colonize the British Isles, please? I don't care if it's China, India, a unified pan-Africanist coalition, the Global South unified under the banner of Maoist Third-Worldism, the goddamn Greys from Beta Reticulae. Whoever. Just go and subjugate them. Deny them agency as a population until they've proven themselves improved enough to be classifiable as 'human being' again. Jesus motherfucking Christ.

What a vile country

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://mobile.twitter.com/Eve6/status/1361824999967916034

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011


My favorite part of the Jakarta Method was where here couldn't say Che was 100% right, but it's obvious that he was

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

KomradeX posted:

My favorite part of the Jakarta Method was where here couldn't say Che was 100% right, but it's obvious that he was

is it one of those theses like "i can describe all the problems but too scared to endorse revolutionary socialism as a solution"

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

KomradeX posted:

My favorite part of the Jakarta Method was where here couldn't say Che was 100% right, but it's obvious that he was

Maybe. I think less of a couldn’t than that he doesn’t necessarily believe that. I thought the strength of it was the clear sympathy and respect Bevins had for his sources, but he isn’t a revolutionary I don’t think. Idk, maybe there’s a bunch about the guy I don’t know and I’m just speaking out of my rear end, and if so please correct me, but on one of the interviews he did on the promotional tour for it (I want to say the TrueAnon one but there were several podcasts I listen to that had him on) he expressed having had initial support for the Bolivian coup. I could have misheard but I went back and relistened to the statement a few times because it caught me off guard so if I did mishear it then it I was being daft as gently caress.

Good book, though

i say swears online posted:

is it one of those theses like "i can describe all the problems but too scared to endorse revolutionary socialism as a solution"

The book seemed more interested in telling the story and amplifying the voices of the victims and explaining the current state of things than it did in trying to solve anything

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

Clibanarius posted:

https://twitter.com/JackDunc1/status/1361430171413344257

what in the mother of loving poo poo

Can someone go re-colonize the British Isles, please? I don't care if it's China, India, a unified pan-Africanist coalition, the Global South unified under the banner of Maoist Third-Worldism, the goddamn Greys from Beta Reticulae. Whoever. Just go and subjugate them. Deny them agency as a population until they've proven themselves improved enough to be classifiable as 'human being' again. Jesus motherfucking Christ.

53% of brexiters support the death penalty and 40% corporal punishment? unthinkable.....











......in the u.s. it's 56% who support the death penalty and that's a record low at the moment, and also 70-80% support spanking your kid :downs:

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Yossarian-22 posted:

53% of brexiters support the death penalty and 40% corporal punishment? unthinkable.....











......in the u.s. it's 56% who support the death penalty and that's a record low at the moment, and also 70-80% support spanking your kid :downs:

We also have near universal support for decimal currency!

Protagorean
May 19, 2013

by Azathoth
I support the death penalty, but only for white collar crime

Hurt Whitey Maybe
Jun 26, 2008

I mean maybe not. Or maybe. Definitely don't kill anyone.

HashtagGirlboss posted:

We also have near universal support for decimal currency!

that was the part that was most fascinating to me. like y’all really want to go back to nondecimal currency? for real?

TheSlutPit
Dec 26, 2009


I thought the brits were good but this is really the last straw.

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

HashtagGirlboss posted:

Maybe. I think less of a couldn’t than that he doesn’t necessarily believe that. I thought the strength of it was the clear sympathy and respect Bevins had for his sources, but he isn’t a revolutionary I don’t think. Idk, maybe there’s a bunch about the guy I don’t know and I’m just speaking out of my rear end, and if so please correct me, but on one of the interviews he did on the promotional tour for it (I want to say the TrueAnon one but there were several podcasts I listen to that had him on) he expressed having had initial support for the Bolivian coup. I could have misheard but I went back and relistened to the statement a few times because it caught me off guard so if I did mishear it then it I was being daft as gently caress.

Good book, though

In the end Utah he seems to be your typical soft left leaning American "leftist" so maybe he doesn't support revolutionary action. But its a book where you have the armed revolutionary groups or supporters telling the unarmed Socialists to arm up, them refusing to do that and preceding to get murdered in mass like I don't understand the thinking of someone that could come away from that book not thinking oh Che and Zhou Enlai were 100٪ correct

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TheSlutPit
Dec 26, 2009

red scare got adam curtis lmao

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