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Speaking of salutations, my evil former boss texted me to tell me she wanted me to come on a conference call and when was I available? No hello. Uhhh I dont work for you anymore, stupid.
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You're not required to get on the call, but at the same time you're not required to say anything positive about the boss or the company. So you can have fun with that if it's a bridge you can afford to burn. Or demand a consultant fee.
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Feb 17, 2021 17:45
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Outrail posted:You're not required to get on the call, but at the same time you're not required to say anything positive about the boss or the company. So you can have fun with that if it's a bridge you can afford to burn. I just told her where to find the information she needed and that I wasnt available for the call. There is very little likelihood I would have been paid. This was probably some sort of test. Oh no i failed
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Feb 17, 2021 17:59
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I guess being mature and reasonable about things was a valid option.
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Feb 17, 2021 18:08
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:Speaking of salutations, my evil former boss texted me to tell me she wanted me to come on a conference call and when was I available? No hello. Uhhh I dont work for you anymore, stupid. My old thesis director I ended up in a screaming match with, who has not spoken to me even once since 2016, sent me an e-mail asking for context for some ancient data. I told her, we went back and forth and she told me she needed some more experimental work and do I want to do it? For free, of course. Lady, you weren't even saying hello to me for five years, why the hell would I want to do that?
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Feb 17, 2021 18:10
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Volmarias posted:
My sons’ school district prohibited cameras-on policies because remote learning is a form of privilege. Kids don’t often have much control over their surroundings (the only space they have to work might be embarrassing for the student on camera) or their internet connection (which may be underpowered for the amount of VC being done in the household). The policies can also be discriminatory for neurodivergent students. I’d also argue there’s some not-insignificant privacy implications for cameras-on policies (especially once kids get to being an age where they might look at classmates romantically).
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Feb 17, 2021 18:14
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obviously I hosed it posted:We have to have ‘ team building ‘ days ( on our days off) where we have to listen to some motivational speaker nobody likes and do stupid trust building exercises. We all would rather go out and drink and tell stories in order to bond than untangle giant ropes in a field somewhere to ‘ get to know ‘ our coworkers. Those don't sound like days off to me??? NapalmWeasel posted:I work in a very small company, and my (tech support) boss (CEO) responds to me with a lot of "TY!" or similar. External emails from her are pieces of wordsmith art. This is a conscious technique to make you think that your CEO is incredibly busy, so busy in fact that typing six letters will set them back irreparably. Son of Rodney posted:Holy poo poo does this speak to me. When people ask me what my perfect job would be like and I'm being honest I always reply chopping wood. Just chopping wood. Good honest physical work, constant progress, and regular satisfaction when you finished splitting a good and heavy piece. Spoken like someone who has never chopped wood for eight hours before Not trying to drag you or anything. That poo poo is just hard, and tiring, and sweaty, and will tear your hands all the way up until you get acclimated. Also, I use: Hello [name], and then either Regards, [my name] or Cheers, [my name] if I'm feeling saucy
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Feb 17, 2021 18:18
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Just found out that a dude's job is being threatened because the execs can't watch Youtube. This dude's been there longer than I've been alive and is in charge of a pretty large portion of the IT team. I think he's a few steps below the CIO.
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Feb 17, 2021 18:35
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Cowman posted:Just found out that a dude's job is being threatened because the execs can't watch Youtube. This dude's been there longer than I've been alive and is in charge of a pretty large portion of the IT team. I think he's a few steps below the CIO. ... is there a reason why they can't, or just "he said so"?
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Feb 17, 2021 18:58
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Speaking of email salutations, I got in trouble because of my salutations. What's wrong with this? FOOLISH MORTALS, I need an update on the project and when you expect you'll be able to deliver it to the customer. Best regards, Xorlock, the conqueror of worlds.
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Feb 17, 2021 19:15
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Cemetry Gator posted:Speaking of email salutations, I got in trouble because of my salutations. Reads fine to me.
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Feb 17, 2021 19:16
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My email signature is a tasteful nude
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Feb 17, 2021 19:18
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Cemetry Gator posted:Speaking of email salutations, I got in trouble because of my salutations. 'Conqueror of Worlds' is a title and should be capitalised. Also all caps makes you sound like a dementia riddled boomer brain. Otherwise it's fine.
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Feb 17, 2021 19:30
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thanks Goons for making me appreciate my awesome job even more. I'm probably underpaid given my education and experience, but this is a government national lab doing science so being underpaid (compared to private industry) is just a given. That said, they are very good with raises - since I started about 9 years ago, my pay has gone up 65%, I have 4 weeks vacation + sick/holiday pay annually. My bosses leave me alone to do my work and only occasionally remind me to publish poo poo or write proposals which I am admittedly bad at. I love most of the work most of the time, there are lots of diverse and cool research projects to choose from and build your career. It's pretty much a government-funded hobby for me. I will never leave. My coworkers are a diverse, international mix of pretty smart and cool people and I cannot think of a single bad co-worker or boss right now, but they used to be there. It's just been exceedingly rare. So what stupid thing does m employer do? I think annual budgets have been mentioned a bunch of times already, but here's my experience with it: as the end of each fiscal year (Sep 30) approaches, lots of departments have money left over they need to shed or they'll lose it. Usually the money has very specific limits on what you can spend it on, i.e. only hardware but no software. So here's what happens every year: July - Managers start reminding people that we have money left over and to pick out testbed hardware to buy. I keep reminding people that we don't have space for more hardware, that we don't use most of the hardware we have amassed over the years, and that we need to renew expensive software licenses instead to actually run this poo poo to begin with. August - People have picked hardware, now the comically overloaded contracts department gets vendor quotes September - a minority of vendors have been able to produce and ship whatever hardware so that we receive it before Sept 30. October - I get to find space for more useless hardware. We have been WFH since 3/16/2020 and it's been mostly a good experience. They've let us take office furniture home and even started doing in-home ergo evals. It's been hard on everyone not to see each other and then our beloved department IT guy died out of nowhere in his 40's. He was my closest friend at work and it me pretty hard. 
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Feb 17, 2021 19:42
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Hasturtium posted:Your boss is full of poo poo. A receptionist at a job I held many moons ago sent an unsolicited nude to a client after hours, and her rear end was on the street 15 minutes and one incensed phone call to the owner later. Your coworker needs to talk to an attorney immediately. That’s work related - as she worked for you. If your bosses friend doesn’t work at your company, why or how would anything happen to them unless it’s illegal? Edit: I mean for sure your boss should be embarrassed and should’ve had words with her if they’re a decent person. But what action would you hope to be taken in this case? wooger fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Feb 17, 2021 |
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Feb 17, 2021 19:45
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Speaking of attachments, one of the best things I have ever seen was when we asked some random finance person for a screenshot of an error she was seeing. She sent us a Word document, that contained a single jpeg, which was a camera photo of her screen, crooked and blurry. Imagine how much work it took to put all that together vs just taking a screen shot. Apparently she didn't know about the screenshot tool we install on everyone's machines.
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Feb 17, 2021 19:56
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Genesplicer posted:I teach 7th and 8th grade science. Remotely, right now. I like it for a couple of reasons and hate it for whole bunch more. I was thinking of getting my teaching accreditation recently, but I decided to put it off until after the pandemic, if ever. I hate using zoom or whatever and can't see how I could possibly learn to teach well in that kind of situation. Becoming a new teacher like that seems nearly impossible
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Feb 17, 2021 20:00
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SkyeAuroline posted:... is there a reason why they can't, or just "he said so"? It's blocked for productivity/bandwidth or something so no one can access youtube. They're spending like $40k on a new program to block it for everyone but the execs. 
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Feb 17, 2021 20:14
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I remember a conversation with an NHS psychologist talking about how she was allowed to use their network to access whatever pornography she wanted to discuss body dysmorphia and sexual hangups with patients, but she wasn't allowed to use it to access YouTube because that could be used for shirking.
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Feb 17, 2021 20:23
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Cowman posted:It's blocked for productivity/bandwidth or something so no one can access youtube. They're spending like $40k on a new program to block it for everyone but the execs. in short lol I'm glad that we have such a dysfunctional IT team that I've never encountered a firewall. I just use YT for music, but still. They don't want to block themselves from loving around and nobody can push them into blocking things even for serious security issues, so I'm sure one of the boomers will gently caress that up eventually, but for now having a wild west is nice.
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Feb 17, 2021 20:31
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This conversation reminds me of when the term "time theft" was making the rounds in the past, and what a ridiculous concept that was I literally could not care less what my engineers are doing as long as they are delivering work on time and they're happy and not stressing to death. As long as you are committing to a reasonable amount of work, and you are hitting the delivery dates we promised the business, I am happy. My helljob was definitely more of a "why do the engineers have 10 minutes left at the end of the week, you need to give them more to do", or at least that's what the director used to scold me for. I never put that on my guys, and we continued making people happy and being the only not-utterly-burned-out team in that place. Plus there just wasn't more to do, anyway. I'm sure if I'd told the director that, he would've told me to go talk to the department heads and get ideas for new projects from them, which they would be gung-ho about for a week or so then utterly abandon because, shockingly, a bright idea you have one day with 20 mins of discussion as requirements / specifications doesn't always work out in the long term! But who cares that you just sunk six figures worth of development time / effort into it, it's not like our time is valuable or anything. e. Also, speaking of firewalls, back when my buddy was IT manager, I briefly ran a torrent server inside of a VM on my desktop. Before he came along, the previous IT administrator - who was the absolute definition of "this is the only power this dude has in his life, so he's going to milk it for all its worth and be a complete jackass" type of IT admin - had blocked Youtube, music streaming and other "wastes of bandwidth" because apparently we had a tiny connection that people were maxing out by... streaming music, I guess. I dunno if he was either full of poo poo or they massively upgraded the pipeline when my buddy joined, but that torrent box was real fast, and no one ever complained. Code Jockey fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Feb 17, 2021 |
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Feb 17, 2021 20:36
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I have to wear a shirt and tie. To internal meetings with my own team, all working from home. I work in tech where the normal dress code is often... casual. My camera has been mysteriously broken for months since they gave us that diktat.
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Feb 17, 2021 20:46
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If there’s one thing I do like about my job, and from what I can see from working in Sweden as a whole, is that absolutely no one gives a poo poo as to how you dress, within reason. My usual work hoodie is uh, the album cover of Mayhem’s first album on the back, and I’ve had zero issue. I don’t need to cover up my tattoos, and seeing that friends with face tattoos are not only employed but can live and support a family, it’s really loving nice. I also, thankfully, have never had issue with my hair, no matter what style. That was a HUGE fear of mine looking for jobs here.
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Feb 17, 2021 21:20
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Feb 17, 2021 21:27
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Sweden... Good? This challenges my worldview.
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Feb 17, 2021 21:29
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Noblesse Obliged posted:I’m on the opposite side of this. IT is so dogmatic and controlling that I just go around them and implement solutions in parallel with our systems or just install my own network and hire someone to make things work. I know this is far back, but gently caress you buddy. Your IT must be nice (or too hog-tied) to give you the dressing down you absolutely deserve. I can almost guarantee for every 'solution' you implement 'in parallel' there is a bunch of background work your IT department needs to do to make sure you aren't loving everything up.
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Feb 17, 2021 22:03
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mng posted:Sweden... Good? Sweden ok. A hard 7.
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Feb 17, 2021 22:04
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Speaking of IT departments: thank you, ancient wizard of the remote IT department, for answering my request for a copy of the manual for the software I spend 80% of my time in with... an eight word excerpt unrelated to the specific question I had also posed and a stonewall. I guess I'm supposed to just google up an internal manual for our hacked-together database running 30 year old software that was already obsolete when it was released?
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Feb 17, 2021 22:30
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The manual doesn't exist, the code they have available is probably without comments. The guy does everything by traditional witchcraft and he has no idea what the common patterns are. He is un-sackable because all the recipes are locked up in his failing brain and he refuses to write anything down. This is normal.
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Feb 17, 2021 22:54
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it absolutely is normal lol (I'm not saying it's good, mind you)
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teen witch posted:Sweden ok. A hard 7. the consensus driven work culture really drags it down
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goatface posted:The manual doesn't exist, the code they have available is probably without comments. The guy does everything by traditional witchcraft and he has no idea what the common patterns are. He is un-sackable because all the recipes are locked up in his failing brain and he refuses to write anything down. You "joke" (yeah, seen this before), but another "team" I work with is one batshit woman who refused to train any successors in the name of job security and has been running 60+ hour weeks every week for just shy of a decade. I still get emails from her after 1 AM, still working from her 9 AM start. This is not a company where crunch really exists. Purely self inflicted. (My main partner team is a bunch of people who volunteered to "help" the collapsing team that I replaced, and were promptly stuck continuing their jobs for years as a side to their main jobs. Of course no one was trained, because as mentioned, there's no program manual, just processes.) Love this.
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teen witch posted:If there’s one thing I do like about my job, and from what I can see from working in Sweden as a whole, is that absolutely no one gives a poo poo as to how you dress, within reason. My usual work hoodie is uh, the album cover of Mayhem’s first album on the back, and I’ve had zero issue. I don’t need to cover up my tattoos, and seeing that friends with face tattoos are not only employed but can live and support a family, it’s really loving nice. I quit there anyway, just working my notice. I'm going to work for a gaming-related company so I'll be back to nerd t-shirts and hoodies in no time.
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I work as a Freelance Artworker now, and it's all been WFH through VPN servers/Zoom with colleagues/clients since it picked back up last September. It rules. Where I worked 2002-05 before getting sacked didn't though. It was my second professional full time job, and once I was shitcanned I assumed everywhere had at least 60% deadwood middle management. Thankfully this has not been the case. Anyway, poo poo the 02-05 place (they basically licence fashion/toy brands and make watches/clocks for them, by branding cheap Hong Kong poo poo and put a massive mark-up on) pulled: - Company owner decides to take a wander down to accounts, right after they'd done their yearly audit/put the accounts in. This meant they were twiddling their thumbs doing gently caress all for about 2 weeks, so he finds them all playing Solitaire/browsing shopping sites etc. Takes internet access away from anyone under Director level. loving useful seeing as by this point all the assets we use for artwork had moved to online directories, we had to request the IT guy to come and unrestrict our Macs to download, then re-enable lock-out. Until he got hosed off with that so set up Remote Access for the 3 of us to a PC in his office. Before he started the IT lady was lovely, but nearing retirement and her solution to everything was 'turn it off/back on again'. - Same Owner decides one day that we dress too scruffy, so all male members of staff must now be in shirt/trousers/shoes. This doesn't apply to female staff (who invariably all dressed in velour tracksuits or Von Dutch t-shirts). We're not client facing in anyway shape or form. That got rescinded within a week due to one of the Senior Managers drafting a letter saying if you expect staff to dress that way you can pay for them to go buy these clothes. - Our original boss took Maternity Leave, which meant for around the 12 months until she went 'Laffo, like gently caress I'm coming back' the 3 of us in the art dept were self-governing on work, reporting directly to one of the Directors. The actual professional account handlers would come in, give us a brief weeks in advance for artwork they needed for meetings, and we'd sort it out for the deadline between us. Except one, who consistently came in 2 days before her meetings screeching she needed 3 days worth of work doing right now, and was also consistently knocked back. Director would shoot her down as being unreasonable too. She bounced from account to account and why the gently caress they didn't just let her go was anyone's guess. - We finally get a dept. head, who was sound & looked out for us. For 6 months until she had to move for her husbands job. So we end with screechy woman as our department head. By this point no client would deal with her. Does she have any experience running something like this? Oh gently caress no, and she hated all 3 of us. I ask to transfer to the Tech division seeing as I'm doing all the packaging for them by this time anyway. Denied. - About this time we find that 1 of us 3 is on £2k a year more than us. Why? Because he was taking the big chonky G3 laptop home and doing extra work on weekends. Like gently caress he was, and before Screechy gets announced people from accounts are asking me & the other guy how we feel about him being the new dept. head. This ended in a meeting where he stormed out of the building like a loving baby and we all got put on the same pay rate, at the same time he was told he isn't going to be dept. head. - I was furiously applying for other jobs half the time I was there, and about 2 weeks after screechy dickhead took over I moved house from 'walking distance' to '2 trains & a bus', a 1.5hr commute at best. I'd be constantly 5-10 minutes late, something no other company I've ever worked has given the slightest gently caress about. This is what she used as a pretence to sack me. I told her she was a poo poo boss in the one-on-one and I'd be back tomorrow to pick up my accumulated crap. Next day, everyone looked at me like I was a leper being ex-communicated from a cult. gently caress that place.
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Feb 18, 2021 00:10
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Von Dutch is still a thing? lmao I haven't heard of that since college 15 years ago
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They did say this was 15-20 years ago.
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Code Jockey posted:This conversation reminds me of when the term "time theft" was making the rounds in the past, and what a ridiculous concept that was I’m a network admin and my work hired a new one so I wasn’t the only one, and I hate him for a lot of reasons. This post above is one of them. All of our IT runs out of our corporate HQ with a gig fiber circuit. One of our client device people opened a ticket because his computer disconnected from wifi just to make sure there weren’t any problems, the issue happened once that day and never again. The new guy who is more of a Cisco phone guy, almost no “networking” knowledge declares himself bandwidth cop and spent the entire week all of his time staring at the bandwidth usage at this location. He would @everybody in the group chat asking what this 20mb/s of traffic was and how we need to fix this non existent problem. He then went ahead and limited each device to 5mb/s tops(on a gig circuit which we never came close to maxing out) without telling anybody, so the client device guy goes to start imaging like 5 computers, and idiot new guy put that 5mb/s cap on all traffic including local traffic and not just the traffic that leaves the building which made those PCs take Like 14 hours to install windows from their local deployment server and absolutely REFUSED to admit that he had screwed up and that local traffic was the cause of “all of our problems”. I ended up just undoing all of his poo poo, but he has now spent the last 3 total weeks bandwidth copping every single one of our 200ish circuits, just randomly staring at traffic meters for no reason. Like I absolutely do not mind someone not having much networking knowledge, hell I’m happy to dump our phone related projects on him and to help him learn. But he is determined to be a prodigy genius network janitor and is extremely forceful about being wrong at all times and refuses to listen. Sorry for the boring story but I can’t stand this guy and the quoted post made me think all about it again.
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bro don't make me recruit people getting paid 10 times my salary come on now
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Tetramin posted:
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The CEO has announced some crunch time bullshit where the entire company must work unpaid OT tomorrow because there are 11 outstanding tickets. We are all remote, and they have no way of tracking our time. LOL
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