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Krakkles posted:Also, Jesus gently caress, those engines cost more than any car I have ever or likely will ever own. Must be there are a lot more one percenters out there than I thought that can afford to buy 80k outboard motors, I don't even understand why this kind of poo poo is important and even exists sometimes but apparently the market is there. And I know "that's capitalism" but sometimes it depresses me to think there are starving kids in this country but lets go ahead and engineer V12 outboard motors for boats that are for the people that would step on those kids to benefit their bank accounts.
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Krakkles posted:Also, Jesus gently caress, those engines cost more than any car I have ever or likely will ever own. And the interior on said boat still looks like cheap, tacky poo poo with crappy looking LED lighting, cheap downlighters, 90s as gently caress chrome-grilled circular speakers wedged in the ceiling. I like how all the furniture is that wipe clean vinyl stuff, presumably because boat and water yet the control setup for the thing is mostly touchscreen (with a UI that looks crap too). https://www.formulaboats.com/500-super-sport-crossover/gallery
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Must be there are a lot more one percenters out there than I thought that can afford to buy 80k outboard motors, I don't even understand why this kind of poo poo is important and even exists sometimes but apparently the market is there. You’ve clearly never been to Fort Lauderdale (or Naples, to a slightly lesser extent.) The only place in the world where people with 27’ twin-engined center consoles are the poor kids. Related
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MrYenko posted:You’ve clearly never been to Fort Lauderdale (or Naples, to a slightly lesser extent.) I live in St.Pete right on the coast so yeah I see it all the time. Every year for the St.Pete Grand Prix, Roger Penske brings his giant loving yacht to the marina next to the track to show he has the biggest yacht cock, it makes all the other yachts jealous and the poor people weep I'm sure he loves it.
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MrYenko posted:You’ve clearly never been to Fort Lauderdale (or Naples, to a slightly lesser extent.) I know one of the "poor kids". He was juuuust smart enough to stick with a 27 ft. twin-engine center console. He's one of those people that knows everything and always has something to say. He drops that attitude immediately when the boat is involved. You've never met a more patient teacher or one happier to see you learn than that man on a boat. Instant dad, just add water. Total cream-puff vessel, too. Custom built with plenty of storage and painted in a beautiful two-tone turquoise pastel and white. "Wouldn't you like one of those big boats, Ron?" "Lol, no matter how much money I make I can barely afford this one!" Thank you for attending my TEDTalk.
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I get that the person who dies with the most stuff wins, but 1500 gallon fuel capacity? Where are people going in a gigantic center console yacht? You don't have any protection from the elements!
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Safety Dance posted:I get that the person who dies with the most stuff wins, but 1500 gallon fuel capacity? Where are people going in a gigantic center console yacht? You don't have any protection from the elements!
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Safety Dance posted:I get that the person who dies with the most stuff wins, but 1500 gallon fuel capacity? Where are people going in a gigantic center console yacht? You don't have any protection from the elements! There's living quarters underneath. My wife's boss (owner of a multi million dollar commercial roofing business) has the same type of boat (giant center console) and he hires captains to take it to the Bahamas, Belize, etc and he flies out to meet them and go fishing. The living quarters are basically for the captains to crash while the owners stay at the resort where the boat is docked.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:There's living quarters underneath. OK, that makes more sense. I had to dig through the gallery to find pictures of the cabin.
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Feb 16, 2021 19:09
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Krakkles posted:can't exactly call AAA (or can you?) in the middle of a lake. Yes, you can. https://www.seatow.com/ And the bill is as "gently caress you" gigantic as you'd expect.
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Motronic posted:Yes, you can. Yet another reason I can’t and don’t want to afford a boat.
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Yeah around here the word "Seatow" strikes fear into boat owners, you do not want to have to call them.
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Wow, you guys weren't kidding. https://www.passagemaker.com/trawler-news/florida-law-salvage-eric-hull Precise quotes are probably willfully concealed, but this story exposes a $30k bill for pumping water out of a navigable boat in port? I know little about boats but that seems disproportionate.
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It's definitely a racket in Florida, not sure how they managed to maintain the monopoly for so long, but I wouldn't be surprised if "cracking skulls" or some other kind of corruption had anything to do with it. That and probably ridiculous insurance rates and licensing to keep the little guys out of it.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:It's definitely a racket in Florida, not sure how they managed to maintain the monopoly for so long, but I wouldn't be surprised if "cracking skulls" or some other kind of corruption had anything to do with it. That and probably ridiculous insurance rates and licensing to keep the little guys out of it. Yeah, I mean.....I think most of us know how scummy a lot of tow operators are. Now add more money and the risk of drowning if the issue isn't handled in time. And being in places where nobody can hear you scream and the wildlife will make quick work of the body.
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Motronic posted:Yeah, I mean.....I think most of us know how scummy a lot of tow operators are. Now add more money and the risk of drowning if the issue isn't handled in time. And being in places where nobody can hear you scream and the wildlife will make quick work of the body. This is one of the reasons I like Matt's Off Road Recovery on Youtube. A tow operator who just seems like a decent, down-to-earth human? Rare as hen's teeth.
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All the tow truck operators around here are either directly mafia or adjacent to mafia, so I expect boat tow owners in southern Florida to be like, ultra mafia.
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Finger Prince posted:All the tow truck operators around here are either directly mafia or adjacent to mafia, so I expect boat tow owners in southern Florida to be like, ultra mafia. Cocaine mafia.
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Finger Prince posted:All the tow truck operators around here are either directly mafia or adjacent to mafia, so I expect boat tow owners in southern Florida to be like, ultra mafia. I don't know if you're in Toronto/area or not, but there is currently a tow truck "war" going on around here at the moment. https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/tow-truck-turf-war-leads-toronto-area-police-to-lay-nearly-200-charges-1.4954888 https://nationalpost.com/news/toronto-cop-part-of-organized-crime-group-involved-in-vicious-tow-truck-wars-chief-says And on and on..
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wesleywillis posted:I don't know if you're in Toronto/area or not, but there is currently a tow truck "war" going on around here at the moment. That is exactly what I'm talking about.
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Motronic posted:Yes, you can. LOL In Australia we have the Australian Volunteer Coast Guard which is nothing like the American idea. Ours is AAA of the seas. Each Flotilla is staffed mainly by old boaties that want to tool around on bigger boats than they can afford, while playing Navy. I was a volunteer maybe a decade ago mainly because I was going for a bunch of licenses and if I was a volunteer they were free/subsidized. (plus free tows). I think the going rate back then was Maybe $100-$200 a year membership and that got you a good park for your trailer and vehicle at the harbour when out on the water, and 24/7 free towing/fuel drops. There were limits of how many times you got a rescue naturally, but if we were out and about on the water anyway - the old Aussie 'carton rule' applied. https://coastguard.com.au/marine-assist/ The money was made on cheapskates that didn't think they needed coverage. Hoooo boy didn't they get fingered for the tow/fueldrop/rescue Humphreys fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Feb 17, 2021 |
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Humphreys posted:Each Flotilla is staffed mainly by old boaties that want to tool around on bigger boats than they can afford, while playing Navy. That sounds like a shitload of fun.
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Humphreys posted:LOL
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Humphreys posted:LOL Americans reading this post: A boating... license?? 
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Finger Prince posted:Americans reading this post: Uhhhh...hate to break it to you, but that's a thing here too. And you won't get away without having one if you're anywhere that has regular coast guard patrols.
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I got my boating license well before I could drive. I remember in the early 90s you had to take like an 8 hour course then a written test. Some friends finally took theirs like 5 years ago and it was all online and much shorter.
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Motronic posted:Uhhhh...hate to break it to you, but that's a thing here too. And you won't get away without having one if you're anywhere that has regular coast guard patrols. that was my first thought as well.
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I had to do a 4 hour test and a 6 hour practical to get my ASA certification. Doesn't apply to powerboat operations I don't think though.
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davebo posted:I got my boating license well before I could drive. I remember in the early 90s you had to take like an 8 hour course then a written test. Some friends finally took theirs like 5 years ago and it was all online and much shorter. From what I gathered by sitting on my uncle's boat in Wisco, there you could drive a boat on a regular driver's license, but could take a class for a boating license if you were younger than 16 (which he made my cousins do). Small boats on a lake, and all that. From experience, you also needed to have a stocked cooler full of beer to operate.
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Motronic posted:Uhhhh...hate to break it to you, but that's a thing here too. And you won't get away without having one if you're anywhere that has regular coast guard patrols. My thought that lead me to post that was "I bet you don't even need a boating license in Florida", so I looked it up, and nope, you don't (you only need to take a boating safety course if you were born after 1988). I assumed it would be the same all over the US, but I should have guessed Florida is it's own special thing.
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Finger Prince posted:My thought that lead me to post that was "I bet you don't even need a boating license in Florida", so I looked it up, and nope, you don't (you only need to take a boating safety course if you were born after 1988). I assumed it would be the same all over the US, but I should have guessed Florida is it's own special thing. I went to high school in central Florida and we all knew who the cool rich kids were who we could get to invite us over and let us take out their parents' boat, because all the rich people there live on a lake anyway. I drove a bunch of motorboats without anything more than a quick "these are the controls" from my friends. I think there are ostensibly patrols in the lakes but it's so easy to find isolated spots to do whatever in the huge chains of lakes. I remember thinking that there were probably a lot more rules about driving boats, especially for teenagers who might have alcohol, but nothing ever really came up. The dumbest things that happened were running out of gas and getting stuck in the swampy reeds.
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On inland lakes in Michigan you have to TRY to get pulled over. The baseline level is 12 people doing kegstands on a pontoon; as long as there are 12 life vests and one person has a drivers license and can still speak the cops don't care.
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No licence required to operate a recreational boat here in NZ but legally you’re supposed to have a operators certificate to operate a marine VHF radio (NZ$90 online course) and the Coastguard recommends you at least do a Day Skippers course (NZ$170 online). Coastguard membership membership is $115/yr or $1725 for life and gets you $100 off the day skippers course and other discounts, and free fuel or tow assist within coverage areas, which is 99% of the places recreational boating happens. Beyond that maritime search and rescue becomes a government thing, our SAR area stretches from the near the South Pole to beyond Tokelau and from halfway to Australia to halfway to Chile, some 30 million sq km. Note our coastguard is more like the UK’s RNLI than America’s Coastguard. Fun fact, after the America’s Cup is finished, the 26 chase/support boats are being refitted and donated to coastguard units around the country.
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Fondly remembering that trump boat rally where a ton of them ended up at the bottom of a lake 
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Motronic posted:That sounds like a shitload of fun. It was quite fun, a lot of the older blokes used it as their social group so at least we had more hands available at all times so there were always afternoon BBQs and beers. Neat little uniforms with brass etc included and ranks. It really was Military Lite Edition. I came with an Army background but grew up on tourist and commercial vessels. Also being quite adept with electronics and radio gear made me handy to have. We would call up the rescue helicopter guys and see if they wanted to do some training and tee up a weekend rescue simulation over the main beach of the town for all to see. One of us going for certs got into emergency gear and went overboard (in the QLD shark filled water) and get lifted by the helicopter. drat, now I miss it and want to move back into that area and .... oh poo poo I'm gonna be that old bloke pottering around the moorings yelling advise.
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Humphreys posted:oh poo poo I'm gonna be that old bloke pottering around the moorings yelling advise. There are many worse ways to spend your later years. You could chase a white ball around perfectly good parkland that charges people to go there.
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Memento posted:There are many worse ways to spend your later years. You could chase a white ball around perfectly good parkland that charges people to go there. Another fan of 'Falling Down' I see EDIT: I think there was chat in here of cheating in sports, so heres a new video on F1 cheating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rtzM-IUAx8 Humphreys fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Feb 18, 2021 |
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