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Diva Cupcake posted:I mean literally every Jets fan knows who they picked here. Was it a fullback?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Didn’t Ryan Leaf have the theoretical higher ceiling? ryan leaf mostly busted because he didn't have the greatest work ethic and struggled with substance abuse issues trevor lawrence is squeaky clean
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Feb 17, 2021 22:53
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Declan MacManus posted:ryan leaf mostly busted because he didn't have the greatest work ethic and struggled with substance abuse issues Yeah I’m saying sometimes you should just go with the sure thing.
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Feb 17, 2021 22:53
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i mean i'm pretty sure lawrence is just as fast and has as strong of an arm as zach wilson but is also 3 inches taller and 30 lbs heavier which is why i assumed you were talking about him it just doesn't make sense to me in any world to take a qb over trevor lawrence since he not only has the highest floor but also the highest ceiling, the longest resume, the best intangibles, etc. i get people have to make content but c'mon
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Declan MacManus posted:i mean i'm pretty sure lawrence is just as fast and has as strong of an arm as zach wilson but is also 3 inches taller and 30 lbs heavier which is why i assumed you were talking about him Its probably the Texans.
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Feb 17, 2021 23:19
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Out of curiosity I tried the PFF mock draft and they had Justin Fields getting selected number one. LoL ok.
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Feb 17, 2021 23:40
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Has Ohio State ever had a superstar QB ever work out in the NFL?
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Feb 17, 2021 23:41
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Has Ohio State ever had a superstar QB ever work out in the NFL? Didn't Shane Falco go to Ohio State?
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Feb 17, 2021 23:43
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BlindSite posted:Its probably the Texans. Pretty sure mormons are considered infidels in evangelical america, texans can't be behind any Zach Wilson rumors
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Feb 17, 2021 23:45
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PupsOfWar posted:Pretty sure mormons are considered infidels in evangelical america, texans can't be behind any Zach Wilson rumors How come the dude is coming into the NFL at 21? Doesn’t he need to go on a mission?
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Eifert Posting posted:Didn't Shane Falco go to Ohio State? Superstar, not gutless scab.
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Feb 17, 2021 23:46
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Real talk the concept that no Ohio State quarterback has ever panned out in the NFL seems like simultaneously an incredibly compelling point and also a really dumb take.
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It’s just amazing to me that some players can throw for 50TDs in an elite conference and just completely fail in the NFL. Yeah I know logically it’s because at their amazing school they have amazing players around them and then suddenly they’re on a bottom 5 nfl roster but drat.
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Eifert Posting posted:Out of curiosity I tried the PFF mock draft and they had Justin Fields getting selected number one. LoL ok. All mock draft simulators have a habit of doing weird poo poo especially at the top.
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Feb 18, 2021 00:17
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Mock drafts are literally worthless talk fodder that we fall into.
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Mock drafts. this is a command
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They're called mock drafts because they're laughable
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Phobeste posted:They're called mock drafts because they're laughable They're fun.
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you only like them because the most exciting part of the bengals season is the draft
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Lies, drat lies, and mock drafts.
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a patagonian cavy posted:you only like them because the most exciting part of the bengals season is the draft Yes.
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Cavauro posted:Mock drafts. this is a command 1. Jacksonville Jaguars - You, the Poster, because you're special 2. New York Jets - The poster you don't like
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Eifert Posting posted:Real talk the concept that no Ohio State quarterback has ever panned out in the NFL seems like simultaneously an incredibly compelling point and also a really dumb take. historically, most ohio state quarterbacks have been bad, or they've been ill-suited to the pros it's only recently that they've actually managed to churn out anything approximating a decent prospect
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Eifert Posting posted:Real talk the concept that no Ohio State quarterback has ever panned out in the NFL seems like simultaneously an incredibly compelling point and also a really dumb take. Insert University/College just doesn't produce QBs is a dumb take because there's so drat few QBs that are even competent at the position.
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Eifert Posting posted:only the most masochistic Jets fan knows who they actually took. Diva Cupcake posted:I mean literally every Jets fan knows who they picked here. What if I told you you're both right?
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Feb 18, 2021 03:06
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Has any mock draft by anyone ever correctly predicted a Patriots pick?
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Feb 18, 2021 03:09
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Pretty much no, but if mock drafts are bad at top of the draft , it's complete and utter darts by the end of round 1. Pats traded down from 1-23 last year, but the consensus picks were: ESPN / SI / PFF / Daniel Jeremiah / Pete Prisco / WEEI: LB AJ Epenesa - went 2-54 to Bills Mel Kiper: LB Zach Baun - 3-74 to the Saints Patriots.com - S Xavier Mckinney - 2-36 Giants Charles Davis - Jordan Love - 1-26 Packers Lance Zierlein - LB Patrick Queen 1-28 Ravens Kalli fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Feb 18, 2021 |
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Feb 18, 2021 03:13
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Did anyone in 2013 predict that like 9 of the first 10 picks were gonna be offensive linemen? I bet not
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Schools don't dictate how a player plays. The coaching staff does. When coaching staffs change completely you can't keep saying all players from x schools are busts at y position.
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I forgot June Jones existed. Not sure why we’re writing pieces on who his QB1 is in TYOOL21. https://twitter.com/LRiddickESPN/status/1362215119267246084 OneTruePecos posted:What if I told you you're both right?
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Anyone trying to argue that Trevor isn’t the obvious number 1 pick is trying too hard to be the smartest guy in the room. This isn’t projecting the future, who could have known that Russel Wilson and Kirk Cousins would be the best QBs out of the 2012 draft. But taking Luck and RG3 1 and 2 were the right choices.
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I have a tiny bit of sympathy for them because you gotta write your articles and get eyeballs, and.... there's just nothing to say about that.
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Kalli posted:I have a tiny bit of sympathy for them because you gotta write your articles and get eyeballs, and.... there's just nothing to say about that. I know in my heart of hearts that if Belichick had the first pick he’d trade down and not take Trevor. Not as like a “haha bill always trades down am I right” but as a serious thing. It’s clear that he truly believes he can plug in any decent QB into his system as long as the rest of the roster is good. Which doesn’t work in today’s NFL which is why he’s gonna fail.
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Why are you concocting elaborate what if situations to preemptively get upset about when you can just say “gee bills drafts have been pretty bad for the last couple years, hope he pulls his head out”
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Didn’t Ryan Leaf have the theoretical higher ceiling?
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Diva Cupcake posted:I forgot June Jones existed. Not sure why we’re writing pieces on who his QB1 is in TYOOL21. June Jones produced record breaking QBs Timmy Chang AND Colt Brennan, I'm all in
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If you plopped Ryan Leaf the prospect (not the fuckup we all know he was now) in a modern draft I wonder what the buzz would be about him. Giant big armed gun slinging statue doesn't seem to be what teams are looking for as much these days, seems like mobility is a necessary thing for top picks now. Not necessarily a guy who's going to run a bunch or anything, but the ability to move and throw off platform. I guess you could say the same for Peyton, but even at the time he was the guy who knew what the defense was going to do before they did, which was obviously never an argument for Leaf. Reading an old Peter King thing from the time this is pretty funny: quote:Ending up in San Diego could give Leaf one distinct advantage over Manning: He figures to get better coaching, at least in 1998. As an offensive coordinator for the Houston Oilers and Jacksonville Jaguars, Chargers coach Kevin Gilbride worked with Warren Moon for five productive seasons and then with Mark Brunell for two. San Diego's first-year quarterbacks coach, June Jones, is a trusted student of the game. In Indianapolis, coach Jim Mora is defense-minded and quarterbacks coach Bruce Arians, who has been in coaching since 1975, has bounced between the college game and the NFL for the past decade. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Feb 18, 2021 |
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Phobeste posted:Why are you concocting elaborate what if situations to preemptively get upset about when you can just say “gee bills drafts have been pretty bad for the last couple years, hope he pulls his head out” I don’t like how the coach spent 3 years alienating and driving out the best player to ever suit up because of some combination of ego and incorrectly thinking that Brady was done.
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Grittybeard posted:If you plopped Ryan Leaf the prospect (not the fuckup we all know he was now) in a modern draft I wonder what the buzz would be about him. I'm shaking.
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