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Is Mx a gender neutral (which I guess as the poster above said, isn't actually neutral) version of Mr or Ms? I haven't run into that, that's interesting. Really what we could do with is a unified Ms/Mrs where you don't get people mad for not knowing if theyr married or not E in '97 the greatest election victory ever was won and the UK and Labour lived happily ever after
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TheRat posted:He's an op, op he can be both
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TACD posted:This isn't meant as a pry into your medical history or anything, but I've seen on here (and amongst friends IRL) quite a few surprisingly young people (i.e. under 40) already getting vaccines — is it all people with immunity-compromising conditions or healthcare workers or something else? It's great that lots of people are getting vaccinated, I'm just really confused as to whether the government is still following their 1–9 priority list and whether my immuno-comprimised partner should be getting called in sooner rather than later. i work in hospitals, yeah
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Communist Thoughts posted:
I think "Ms" is the unified version of Miss/Mrs intended to avoid assumptions about married status.
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I feel bad for French and German speaking NB people, having read about their problems with pronouns. French doesn't have gender-neutral 3rd person plural pronouns - "they" is either elles ("shes") for a group of women, or ils ("hes") for a group containing at least one man (making it the de facto gender neutral option, which of course it's not). German does have a gender neutral 3rd person plural pronoun (sie), but it's identical to the female singular, with only the verb changing. And to add another layer, the Sie + plural form (note capital S) is used for single people already, but as a polite second person (you) form. So that's no help. So I think they need neopronouns, which is the next level up of gammon-fighting.
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I'm still a little disbelieving that Starmer invoked the post war spirit in rhetoric and proposed a new consumer bond and small business loan scheme in policy. Johnson does well covering for no policy with bombastic claims because he's passionate about those claims and has a history of doing stupid things with flags, Starmers got no history worth bringing up and is trying to act dignified while saying dying from the virus in large enough numbers is like successfully fighting off Nazi Germany. May is going to be a total wipe out for Labour at this rate.
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For any of my fellow scroungers on universal credit JSA, I've been waiting for over 50 minutes for my phone call today. Is that normal? Should I report my coach as dead?
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lmao https://twitter.com/ukhomeoffice/status/1362107043847503872?s=20 https://twitter.com/344_ad/status/1362364769165070337?s=20
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Communist Thoughts posted:Is Mx a gender neutral (which I guess as the poster above said, isn't actually neutral) version of Mr or Ms? Then do I have the imported language feature for you, Communist Thoughts-san.
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What is the bond idea? What do you get if you buy a bond
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Communist Thoughts posted:What is the bond idea? What do you get if you buy a bond A skillswallet
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Communist Thoughts posted:Is Mx a gender neutral (which I guess as the poster above said, isn't actually neutral) version of Mr or Ms? Necrothatcher posted:I think "Ms" is the unified version of Miss/Mrs intended to avoid assumptions about married status.
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Jose posted:lmao Entirely appropriate given that the YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A CAR advert used the music outside the terms of its licensing agreement. Communist Thoughts posted:What is the bond idea? What do you get if you buy a bond A bond is where the government says "if you give us X amount of money we will give you X amount of money back in Y amount of years plus Z amount extra. It is literally just the government taking out loans. Except they set the terms of the loan. So it's like if the bank came to you and said "can you lend us some money on these terms please" OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Feb 18, 2021 |
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Communist Thoughts posted:What is the bond idea? What do you get if you buy a bond You get a government bond with similar interest rates as other government bonds and a letter with a flag printed on it to say thank you for believing in Britain.
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sebzilla posted:Yeah because we need to balance the books in the medium to long term. And if that's not bold exciting policy then I don't know what is. Treasury bonds and premium bonds already exist. "Thing that already exists but with a Union Jack hastily printed on it" definitely sounds like a Starmer policy.
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The gov doesn't need me to buy a bond for them to print more money to do stuff. So it kinda seems like this is just a way of draining people's savings but not on anything productive.
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Keir Starmers Labour Party presents: Bringing Sexy Back
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Communist Thoughts posted:The gov doesn't need me to buy a bond for them to print more money to do stuff. No it doesn't, especially when it can already borrow money from all sorts of other places. It makes a bit of sense in a war, sometimes, in that other places might be less willing to lend you money on the basis that you might be at war with them and might also cease to exist as a country if you lose and not pay them back, and you might not be able to print enough money to make the war go without doing an inflation, but outside of that yes the government can just print money or borrow it, it is an entirely useless policy.
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Bringing Sexy Back for up to 5 years on a 0.5% interest return basis.
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Looke posted:Keir Starmers Labour Party presents: Bringing Sexy Back Hardcore bond(age) programme
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MikeCrotch posted:I think it's also worth remembering that the press considered Corbyn a joke in 2017 and only went full bore in 2019 which soured a lot of people. This part isn't true. I remember clearly when Cameron was PM them dishing out all the Hamas/IRA he's a terrorist sympathiser who hates Britain stuff. We had the chicken coup etc. Saying Corbyn had it easy pre-2017 and that's why he didn't get bodied in that election is pure revisionism.
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The use of 'Mrs' varies around the world. The German version 'frau' is used both for married women and women over 'a certain age' (something like 30) regardless of marital status. Being 'Dr' sidesteps the whole thing. Before I was Dr and back in the mists of time (Tooting Popular Front etc) my dad used to shout 'tovarich' loudly in the street if he saw me and write letters to me at uni addressed to 'tovarich Jaeluni'. товарищ = comrade I was surprised to discover in the last few years that some members of the Labour party do not like being referred to as 'comrade' or 'comrades'.
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Guavanaut posted:It is neutral, and also used by people who don't want to signify their gender in a particular instance (like is it relevant to signing up for promotional tea bags?) I would argue yes in this example - my favourite tea comes in a pink box and is called "Womankind". Therefore if I didn't indicate that I am a man who enjoys the stupid gendered tea, how would they know how stupid they are? Guavanaut posted:Yeah it was supposed to be, but apparently a lot of people think that it signifies divorced now, apparently enough that other people don't want to use it. This is also stupid, and these people should not be catered to Jaeluni Asjil posted:. Being 'Dr' sidesteps the whole thing. Amusingly not in my experience, since I've gotten mail from German biotech companies before with "Herr Doktor" on it, so I assume "Frau Doktor" is also a thing that's used. Although I can't imagine"Fraulein Doktor" gets much use
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You wouldn't download a baby shower it'd just be a bit poo poo, frankly Jaeluni Asjil posted:I was surprised to discover in the last few years that some members of the Labour party do not like being referred to as 'comrade' or 'comrades'.
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Borrovan posted:sounds like an easy way to determine who is not, in fact, a comrade, anyway Comxade
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what is a tory marxist. just saw someone self-ID as such on twitter but the post is gone now. i suppose you could accept the marxist conception of history is true but identify as a tory? technically, to some degree. idk. i guess christopher hitchens could be a tory marxist.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I was surprised to discover in the last few years that some members of the Labour party do not like being referred to as 'comrade' or 'comrades'. im not in labour but i guess i can see how some people would feel a bit embarrassed by it
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gh0stpinballa posted:what is a tory marxist. just saw someone self-ID as such on twitter but the post is gone now. i suppose you could accept the marxist conception of history is true but identify as a tory? technically, to some degree. idk. i guess christopher hitchens could be a tory marxist. "Capital is an accurate description of how the economy works, and I want to make sure I am in control of it"
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Someone put a Starmer head on all those Gordy Relaunches cartoon from Steve Bell, I'm too lazy.
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gh0stpinballa posted:what is a tory marxist. Reminds me of whoever it was that pointed out that one of the reasons that business studies got split from economics is to keep all of the delicious Marxism (that works well if you're running a business) away from the economists who must learn Chicago-style deep pan deregulation.
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Universal credit update: my paper record of the meetings was more accurate than the DWPs so when I messaged them they were like "oh yeah the system had you down for 3 hours later."
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OwlFancier posted:"Capital is an accurate description of how the economy works, and I want to make sure I am in control of it" this is extremely common fwiw. marxism as analysis can be entirely separated from the moral implication marx and many others tried to infuse it with - something like the labour theory of value is extremely self evidently true. there used to be a running gag at either the treasury department or the federal reserve in the states that you could walk into a planning meeting and hear the same arguments you would in a student marxist society, but from the other side.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-56111209quote:A man in his 30s with no underlying health conditions was offered a Covid vaccine after an NHS error mistakenly listed him as just 6.2cm in height.
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OwlFancier posted:"Capital is an accurate description of how the economy works, and I want to make sure I am in control of it" that feels right...i imagine quite a lot of tories say that thing about agreeing with marx's diagnosis but not his suggested treatment.
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kingturnip posted:So basically, Labour's membership have deserted en masse and this is Starmer offering all three holes to business. Boris Johnson: "gently caress business" Kieth Starmer: "gently caress me, business  "
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Sounds like the thing where the FT is on planet reality because if you actually cling to right-wing economics the money goes down.Guavanaut posted:Chicago-style deep pan deregulation. That's deep dish  and it's delicious and calorific and I'm only allowed to make it occasionally.
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Jedit posted:No disrespect to your personal perspective, which is more informed than mine, but I thought the point of NB was that you didn't identify as any gender? As such, then logically you would be neither cis nor trans because those things are also an aspect of the gender binary. Non binariness is many things, and covers a wide range of genders and absences thereof. In some cases it can mean not experiencing gender at all (which some would call being agender) l in some cases it can be being one gender some days, and a different one other days (genderfluidity), in some cases it can being one gender... mostly, but not completely (nonbinary man/nonbinary woman, demigender)... there are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio. For some people enby is a gender all its own. For some non-binary is a supercategory. For some it's a spectrum. None of them are wrong. Not to mention, for me personally, i'm still exploring a lot of this, and the more I do, the further I feel like I'm drifting from my assigned sex. So, non-binary man still feels like it fits for now, but in a year? I might have developed my understanding of myself further, and that might change. Communist Thoughts posted:Is Mx a gender neutral (which I guess as the poster above said, isn't actually neutral) version of Mr or Ms? Mx is in theory a gender neural version, but as Rumda notes, gender neutral things can be used to hurt people even when they're designed to help, if those people don't want to be gender neutral. Personally I wish we could have a gender neutral honorific. Or stop bothering with them at all. Being called 'Mr Invader' doesn't bother me, but being called 'sir' puts just a little hitch in my day sometimes that it didn't used to.
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