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Decided to do some casual scavving last night after not having played for a bit. Every single run I dropped in with about 12 minutes left. I love being able to loot maybe two places then having to book it across the map let me tell you.
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Cage Kicker posted:Is there even any reason to spend up to 200k on an M4 or HK when the Vector exists? I started running one to see if the hype is real, and IT IS. The m4 in particular is dummy expensive. You can pay 50k for the same thing in a MDR. A very decent ak74m or 105 also costs like 65k. But ye the vector will be better lol
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Feb 18, 2021 16:20
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Well the m4 is less likely to get nerfed, so there's that.
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Feb 18, 2021 17:48
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Cage Kicker posted:Is there even any reason to spend up to 200k on an M4 or HK when the Vector exists? I started running one to see if the hype is real, and IT IS. probably because the bullets in the m4 or HK are worlds better than 7n31 (or ap63, which is a garbage bullet but everyone uses it for budget), but the beauty of Tarkov is you can run all kinds of things to be successful - no matter what streamers or other goons say. Run a shotgun, or a bolty and an smg - you can make basically anything work in Tarkov. The vector is great fun, and pretty much a laser - but it will always get looted.
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Feb 18, 2021 18:56
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Me and the player scav who spent nearly a minute whiffing scoped-bolt-action shots from 10 feet away in Factory feel differently.
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Feb 18, 2021 19:25
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Toalpaz posted:The m4 in particular is dummy expensive. You can pay 50k for the same thing in a MDR. A very decent ak74m or 105 also costs like 65k. The MDR has a fire rate almost as slow as an AK, it is definitely not the same. If you and a guy wearing the same gear start shooting each other, him with an M4 and you with an MDR, you're almost always going to lose unless you head shot him first. TheTofuShop posted:probably because the bullets in the m4 or HK are worlds better than 7n31 (or ap63, which is a garbage bullet but everyone uses it for budget) 9x19 AP 6.3 damage 52 pen 30 9x19 7N31 damage 52 pen 39 5.56x39 M856A1 damage 51 pen 37 5.56x39 M855A1 damage 45 pen 43 I don't know where you get your info from but it's dumb and wrong. Also worth considering is the cost of 855A1 and the higher fire rate of the Vector.
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Feb 18, 2021 23:04
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Cage Kicker posted:The MDR has a fire rate almost as slow as an AK, it is definitely not the same. If you and a guy wearing the same gear start shooting each other, him with an M4 and you with an MDR, you're almost always going to lose unless you head shot him first. I almost always fight people in semi-automatic anyways tbh.
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Feb 18, 2021 23:46
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the only thing better than clean penning armor is firing so many rounds you just destroy it anyway in the same amount of time
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Feb 18, 2021 23:59
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M856a1 is a bad bullet. Trust me, I love a good SMG, ask in the discord and they'll tell ya how I ran almost all mp9s with ap63 before 7n31 was in existence. Ap63 performs similar to M855, a very bad bullet. The RoF is definitely a factor, and you can drop players with it for sure. Im not saying that folks should always run a 556 platform, or that the smgs are bad value, just saying that the difference in those numbers, while small on the page, are huge in practice. Those few points of difference in pen make a whole lot of difference dealing with higher class armor. In the end, like I said earlier, use what you like. Positioning and smart play can get you kills with any platform
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Feb 19, 2021 00:06
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Also the money you save on the gun will easily be soaked up by ammo. 7n31 is ridiculously expensive for how quickly it pisses out of a vector and the fact you have to spray everyone down.
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Feb 19, 2021 00:08
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.366 AP is the best budget ammo in the game
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Feb 19, 2021 00:18
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so in conclusion there is no reason to spend the extra money on an m4 because you still have to use the extremely overpriced bullets apparently anyway so you might as well save money on the platform and tear through people at 1000rpm
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Feb 19, 2021 01:03
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I would say the biggest differentiator is what range you intend to engage at? Sorry if that take isn't hot enough.
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Feb 19, 2021 03:15
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Doesn’t include enough uses of the word trash, 2/10 argument. I’ve been running a kiited out Saiga 12g with slugs lately and murdering fools and if that can work anything can.
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Feb 19, 2021 03:35
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The best advice is to invest in your hideout asap, so you can craft for money, or mine bitcoins, and laugh at the idea of "budget"
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Feb 19, 2021 04:04
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the m4 is way better than a vector which isn't even cheaper to run. Like it's 90k for the base gun and the good ammo costs way more. Put 15 m995 in the top of your mag and the rest 855a1 and if you live 2 raids with it the ammo savings will have covered the difference. m855a1 is cheap, never use non-vendor bullets in any gun ever. ninja edit: except perhaps the .338 lapua AP.
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Feb 19, 2021 05:30
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Ixtlilton posted:the m4 is way better than a vector which isn't even cheaper to run. Like it's 90k for the base gun and the good ammo costs way more. Put 15 m995 in the top of your mag and the rest 855a1 and if you live 2 raids with it the ammo savings will have covered the difference. m855a1 is cheap, never use non-vendor bullets in any gun ever. nah, you also have the ones with disproportionate in-raid presence or crafts costed to make them competitive or cheaper than vendor prices (i.e. 5.45 BT, 7.62x39 BP, 7.62x54R SNB, etc.)
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Feb 19, 2021 05:48
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im going to load my gun with inferior ammo to spite everyone and prove nothing
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Feb 19, 2021 05:50
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Ixtlilton posted:the m4 is way better than a vector which isn't even cheaper to run. Like it's 90k for the base gun and the good ammo costs way more. Put 15 m995 in the top of your mag and the rest 855a1 and if you live 2 raids with it the ammo savings will have covered the difference. m855a1 is cheap, never use non-vendor bullets in any gun ever. vector is better op
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Feb 19, 2021 06:19
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Lapua AP is great for finding like 6 with the FiR tag and instantly making 200k roubles.
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Feb 19, 2021 07:10
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You aren’t going to get 120k vector stats from a 120k m4 either
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Feb 19, 2021 10:16
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lets put a 97k vector up against a 97k m4
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Feb 19, 2021 11:09
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I only run stuff I've gotten from scavs and wait till the sweat lords are looting then 1 tap them in the legs with poo poo ammo then sell all their poo poo to fence.
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Feb 19, 2021 12:32
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MaxPowers posted:I only run stuff I've gotten from scavs and wait till the sweat lords are looting then 1 tap them in the legs with poo poo ammo then sell all their poo poo to fence. This is the ultimate power move.
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Feb 19, 2021 13:51
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Burned out on this for a while and when I came back was getting owned a lot but now I’m just running scabs on cool down and fuckin around on the internet in between and it’s real nice. Found a Bitcoin on one of those scav runs too
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Feb 19, 2021 14:27
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Stux posted:lets put a 97k vector up against a 97k m4 Is the vector player or the m4 player better at the game?
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Feb 19, 2021 14:52
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Ice Fist posted:Is the vector player or the m4 player better at the game? we'll go with reality, the vector player is better at the game and also the m4 player is very scared and refuses to push anyone
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Stux posted:we'll go with reality, the vector player is better at the game and also the m4 player is very scared and refuses to push anyone 
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Feb 19, 2021 15:42
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I like the m4 but only with the short 260 barrel
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:I like the m4 but only with the short 260 barrel No... No!
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Feb 19, 2021 17:02
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Stux posted:we'll go with reality, the vector player is better at the game and also the m4 player is very scared and refuses to push anyone The m4 player cowering in a corner has a slick and exfil and the vector player is on every stim in the game and wearing a paca
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Feb 19, 2021 18:42
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Lorem ipsum posted:The m4 player cowering in a corner has a slick and exfil and the vector player is on every stim in the game and wearing a paca vector player is playing on speakers
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Feb 19, 2021 22:26
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A Jupiter posted:vector player is playing on speakers Feeling the bass is important to my immersion.
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Feb 20, 2021 03:49
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A Jupiter posted:vector player is playing on speakers Yeah well they have to be able to hear the TV.
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you can stack on whatever you want the vector is winning the fight, and we all know it
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Feb 20, 2021 04:41
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Apparently the cost to get solar power was increased from 25k euros to 50k. No changes to the AESAs needed though
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Feb 20, 2021 04:55
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Stux posted:you can stack on whatever you want the vector is winning the fight, and we all know it Unless the fight is at 41 meters or more
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Feb 20, 2021 05:30
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Umbreon posted:Apparently the cost to get solar power was increased from 25k euros to 50k. No changes to the AESAs needed though Purely punishing the weekend warriors.
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Mae posted:Unless the fight is at 41 meters or more Generally in situations where you can't control being engaged from long range the 7.62x51 guns are the best bet anyways
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Mae posted:Unless the fight is at 41 meters or more if your legs are gone, you have no painkillers, you have zero stamina, and you are facing down an m4 at 50+ meters in an open field, you would still have a 50/50 shot considering the average skill of the playerbase
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